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Dallas Low Quality Scenery Tiles even worse in 2024!

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UPDATE: my post linked below has been merged with the following post as it was already requested. For those who already voted on my topic, your vote has been added to the merged topic at this link: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/add-photogrammetry-to-dallas-area-texas/285549 Thank you!

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I kindly ask that if you can afford a vote, and don't mind, that you please vote the following:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/dallas-and-north-dallas-scenery-quality/691665

Thank you!

Edited by JJ_

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As someone old enough to remember the assassination I asked a friend to fly over Dealey Plaza in 2020 and was genuinely shocked at its representation.

Given its historical importance you would have thought more attention would be paid to the area in 2024.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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19 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

As someone old enough to remember the assassination I asked a friend to fly over Dealey Plaza in 2020 and was genuinely shocked at its representation.

Given its historical importance you would gave thought more attention would be paid to the area in 2024.

It seems strange that such a large metropolitan area like Dallas and North of Dallas which has excellent tile / photogrammetry quality in Bing maps has such low quality tiles on the Sim servers: https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=32.927452~-96.79606&lvl=12.2&style=g&pi=45

Thought Dallas would have been corrected by now (2020).  It's a shame this carried into 2024.😔

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2 hours ago, JJ_ said:

It seems strange that such a large metropolitan area like Dallas and North of Dallas which has excellent tile / photogrammetry quality in Bing maps has such low quality tiles on the Sim servers

 

1 hour ago, Dillon said:

Thought Dallas would have been corrected by now (2020).  It's a shame this carried into 2024.😔

I’m not able to vote as I don’t have a licence but I hope your request is actioned. One of the most historical places in American history.

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3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Given its historical importance you would gave thought more attention would be paid to the area in 2024.

Flew over Dallas once, and it was so bad that I never noticed gone back to Dallas.

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12 minutes ago, Huascar said:

Flew over Dallas once, and it was so bad that I never noticed gone back to Dallas.

Maybe they devoted all their efforts to Southfork. You need to be old to remember that! 😉

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4 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Maybe they devoted all their efforts to Southfork. You need to be old to remember that! 😉

RAY!  Bad!
What was her name again? Sue something?

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8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

As someone old enough to remember the assassination I asked a friend to fly over Dealey Plaza in 2020 and was genuinely shocked at its representation.

Given its historical importance you would gave thought more attention would be paid to the area in 2024.

Luckily, there are a number of great freeware add-ons. I'm not saying the screenshot below looks great, but it might be better than the default. 

THEIic7.jpeg

https://flightsim.to/file/48144/dallas-city-enhanced

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It's beyond bizarre that Dallas has never been fixed, despite having two updates for the US PG. I also find it hilarious when Jorg claimed they would be using new tech for the PG cities in 2024, but in reality, it's the same old half baked PG from 2020. We literally got bamboozled with 2024.

When a large portion of your user base uses a hack of injecting aerial maps (Google maps mod) to improve the most "revolutionary" aspect of your product, one would hope that would be a clear signal to the developers to listen to the feedback from their customers and make some meaningful changes.  At the very least, it must be extremely embarrassing.

Regards, Kendall

 

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6 hours ago, fppilot said:

RAY!  Bad!
What was her name again? Sue something?

Sue Ellen. 😉

5 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Luckily, there are a number of great freeware add-ons. I'm not saying the screenshot below looks great, but it might be better than the default. 

https://flightsim.to/file/48144/dallas-city-enhanced

I thought the whole point of MSFS was that you didn’t need addons for cities.

Dealey Plaza is clearly identifiable there. 👍

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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24 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Dealey Plaza is clearly identifiable there. 👍

Unlike the tree types :laugh:

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8 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Unlike the tree types :laugh:

On closer inspection they’re awful.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

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Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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For me, the PG "trees" are the single biggest fault in 2024. They were bad in 2020 too, but they somehow feel even worse now. I've even taken to turning PG off for some flights in some areas, which is something I never, ever, did in 2020. Trouble then is you get the really bland autogen buildings in the city centres. The autogen is ok for the smaller buildings, actually very good in lots of cases, but sucks bigtime for the city towers.

Considering just how spectacular most of the scenery is in 2024, with the new trees and land surfaces (and the pebbles, of course!), it seems a bit strange to have this backward step within what seems to be one of the major selling points of 2024.

Hopefully it might get improved at least, even if it doesn't get fixed. Meanwhile, there are various packages (Bijan, Taburet) that make some very worthwhile adjustments but they're not necessarily global. E.g. Bijan does make global improvements in some areas (tree types etc) but putting in exclusions for the PG blobs is more localised - but well done and seemingly almost on request.

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