21 minutes ago, agutz said:

Seems to be a misunderstanding. Aivlasoft EFB program has two parts: Server and Client. They are both installed on your computer. There are no "costly installs that required a server to run".

The only thing the server was for was to check to make sure the owner had purchased the software, and for updates. Like any other software you purchase, most likely. It runs perfectly with no server at all. 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

It would take me a long time to list all the features that I use daily with aivlasoft, so I see no point to it, since it is not for sale anymore.

I asked what I asked not because I am interested in this EFB (I know it's not for sale anymore) but to see if what you like about it might be available by default in MSFS2024. I suppose you bought this EFB because it added features to MSFS2020 which MSFS2020 didn't offer by default. However, perhaps MSFS2024 does offer by default what you are using this EFB for.

21 minutes ago, mistolip said:

I asked what I asked not because I am interested in this EFB (I know it's not for sale anymore) but to see if what you like about it might be available by default in MSFS2024. I suppose you bought this EFB because it added features to MSFS2020 which MSFS2020 didn't offer by default. However, perhaps MSFS2024 does offer by default what you are using this EFB for.

This is from the owners manual, brief summery of what it does. 

 

2.1 Functionality AivlaSoft's "Electronic Flight Bag" provides the following main functionality:

 

1. Area Navigational Charts 2. Ground Layout of Airports 3. Departure and Arrival Charts 4. Moving Map 5. Flight Planning 6. Flight Log 7. Performance Calculations *1 8. Meteorological Data 9. Radio Panel 10. Checklists 11. Document Administration

35 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

1. Area Navigational Charts 2. Ground Layout of Airports 3. Departure and Arrival Charts 4. Moving Map 5. Flight Planning 6. Flight Log 7. Performance Calculations *1 8. Meteorological Data 9. Radio Panel 10. Checklists 11. Document Administration

By default MSFS2024 offers this:

1. Area Navigational Charts (MSFS2024 has official LIDO charts for all procedures and airports: not sure about these kind of area charts... perhaps the offered charts would be sufficient already)
2. Ground Layout of Airports (official LIDO charts)
3. Departure and Arrival Charts (official LIDO charts)
4. Moving Map
5. Flight Planning (it's sufficient: not as easy as SimBrief but 1. it's being worked on and 2. you can also use the free SimBrief EFB app for this! I do the latter anyway)
6. Flight Log (not entirely sure about this one, at least not about the functionality... afaik MSFS2024 has some sort of log but I never check logs)
7. Performance Calculations (currently very, very basic but it's being worked on so it should improve)
8. Meteorological Data (METAR, I presume...? Can't remember seeing that in MSFS2024. Perhaps SimBrief shows METAR?)
9. Radio Panel (not sure what you would use this for since the radio panel is in the cockpit already)
10. Checklists
11. Document Administration

So all in all MSFS2024 comes a long way. If you might consider switching to MSFS2024 in the future (like when it has progressed and improved in such a way that it might become the first choice for most simmers) you can rest assured that a lot of the functionality that the Aivlasoft EFB offers will be there in MSFS2024 by default. Obviously it will be a bit different and not exactly what you've been used to.

EDIT Concerning the LIDO charts: there are charts for almost all airports that have charts in real life but afaik the Aivlasoft EFB creates its own charts based on what's in the sim, so I presume it can also create 'charts' for very small airports that don't have charts in real life...? If that's so then you may have less 'charts' then you have with the Aivlasoft EFB. But afaik you mainly fly airliners so you should be good.

Edited January 20, 20251 yr by mistolip

As a long-time EFB user I'll add my bit even though I use it on a different sim.

When flying Concorde it's essential to be subsonic 55nm before land. Using EFB I can create a circle of any diameter by centreing the circle on the coast of the land I'm flying towards.

That gives me a visual indication of where I need to be subsonic. Does any other MM have that functionality?

Same applies to Radar Contact (ATC program) when there's a requirement to be at a certain FL/altitude 40nm out. Centre the circle on your airport and bingo!

It's a pity there aren't more independent developers who could create such a masterpiece. LNM is extremely good but doesn't have these features.

3 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

LNM is extremely good but doesn't have these features.

Actually, LNM offers this. You can (IIRC) Shift-click on the map and it will create a circle around the point where you clicked. You can manually change the radius of the circle. In the past I always used this option to find destination airports that were in a certain range from my departure airport.

I also remember seeing this option if (again IIRC) in the MCDU of the Airbus... or whas it a Boeing... it's been a while though since I used that.

Edited January 20, 20251 yr by mistolip

12 minutes ago, mistolip said:

By default MSFS2024 offers this:

1. Area Navigational Charts (MSFS2024 has official LIDO charts for all procedures and airports: not sure about these kind of area charts... perhaps the offered charts would be sufficient already)
2. Ground Layout of Airports (official LIDO charts)
3. Departure and Arrival Charts (official LIDO charts)
4. Moving Map
5. Flight Planning (it's sufficient: not as easy as SimBrief but 1. it's being worked on and 2. you can also use the free SimBrief EFB app for this! I do the latter anyway)
6. Flight Log (not entirely sure about this one, at least not about the functionality... afaik MSFS2024 has some sort of log but I never check logs)
7. Performance Calculations (currently very, very basic but it's being worked on so it should improve)
8. Meteorological Data (METAR, I presume...? Can't remember seeing that in MSFS2024. Perhaps SimBrief shows METAR?)
9. Radio Panel (not sure what you would use this for since the radio panel is in the cockpit already)
10. Checklists
11. Document Administration

So all in all MSFS2024 comes a long way. If you might consider switching to MSFS2024 in the future (like when it has progressed and improved in such a way that it might become the first choice for most simmers) you can rest assured that a lot of the functionality that the Aivlasoft EFB offers will be there in MSFS2024 by default. Obviously it will be a bit different and not exactly what you've been used to.

EDIT Concerning the LIDO charts: there are charts for almost all airports that have charts in real life but afaik the Aivlasoft EFB creates its own charts based on what's in the sim, so I presume it can also create 'charts' for very small airports that don't have charts in real life...? If that's so then you may have less 'charts' then you have with the Aivlasoft EFB. But afaik you mainly fly airliners so you should be good.

Avliasoft has everything on one screen instantly accessible, no need to search around for charts, or weather, or try different approaches, or deal with a Gui like LMN, which to me is a nightmare. If you have never used Avliasoft EFB, you wouldn't understand this, but since it is not on sale anymore, I wouldn't think you would even give it a second thought. 

15 minutes ago, mistolip said:

Actually, LNM offers this. You can (IIRC) Shift-click on the map and it will create a circle around the point where you clicked. You can manually change the radius of the circle

Add Range rings would appear to be what you're referring to. Defaults at 50,100, 200 and 500.

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind for the future.

52 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Avliasoft has everything on one screen instantly accessible, no need to search around for charts, or weather, or try different approaches, or deal with a Gui like LMN, which to me is a nightmare.

This does not look like one screen to me: https://youtu.be/an_HXU8nvvc?t=546

Compared to Aavliasoft, the MSFS 2024 flight planner offer a better overview and a more streamlined and integrated experience imho: 

 

So from your mentioned requirements, @mistolip provided a list that shows almost all of them ticked off:

1 hour ago, mistolip said:

1. Area Navigational Charts (MSFS2024 has official LIDO charts for all procedures and airports: not sure about these kind of area charts... perhaps the offered charts would be sufficient already)
2. Ground Layout of Airports (official LIDO charts)
3. Departure and Arrival Charts (official LIDO charts)
4. Moving Map
5. Flight Planning (it's sufficient: not as easy as SimBrief but 1. it's being worked on and 2. you can also use the free SimBrief EFB app for this! I do the latter anyway)
6. Flight Log (not entirely sure about this one, at least not about the functionality... afaik MSFS2024 has some sort of log but I never check logs)
7. Performance Calculations (currently very, very basic but it's being worked on so it should improve)
8. Meteorological Data (METAR, I presume...? Can't remember seeing that in MSFS2024. Perhaps SimBrief shows METAR?)
9. Radio Panel (not sure what you would use this for since the radio panel is in the cockpit already)
10. Checklists
11. Document Administration

In that list meteo data and radio is missing, so let me tell you, that they exist too. This is how they look both in the standalone flight planner as well as in the EFB:

Meteo data, both current as forecasted, in the web planner:

And in the onboard EFB:

And the same screens exist for the radio frequencies, which can also be set from the onboard EFB:

 

 

 

How did you get your EFB to turn to landscape mode and be split like that?

19 minutes ago, fsiscool said:

This does not look like one screen to me: https://youtu.be/an_HXU8nvvc?t=546

 

 

 

Look, it is obvious that you never used Avliasoft EFB, so  I am not going to waste any more time explaining how it works. 

Here is the one and only screen I look at when flying. There is nothing you can get that will give you more info than I can get instantly with one mouse click. 

Edited January 20, 20251 yr by Bobsk8

If I may, I'll take a stab at this as a long time user of Avliasoft EFB. Whether it is LNM, Navigraph moving map, MSFS flight planner or Avliasoft EFB they all have similar features. But I think its the WAY they offer or present the feature. Take the moving map feature, I use this thru Avliasoft EFB and the way everything is presented suits my needs and wants. Its an excellent interface. The others HAVE a moving map feature but they are different in presentation. If I jump to MSFS 2024 I'm sure I could find one to replace Avliasoft EFB but if I could find a way to continue to use Avliasoft EFB that would be my first choice. I just like their presentation and implementation more than the others. 

Not everything newer is better.

Based on my experience it feels like LNM is 90% there and just needs a little nudge on the GUI and chart integration.

Too bad that Avliasoft EFB is not supported anymore.  I was about to purchase when they announced they would stop support.  I was running the demo and I liked it very much.  It also worked with X-Plane and you can use it on another computer with FSUIPC/ WideClient.    I can understand why Bob and Ray love the app. IMO, it was...still is! a unique addon for MS Flight Sims and easy to use and it looks good too! .  I whish I would have purchased before the announcement.  My regret is not buying it years ago...☹️