12 hours ago, Jarnie said:

Wow so many replies and information and I thanks each and everyone for your individual inputs.

Yes of course it is a simulator but I prefer to at least attempt to use it as correctly as possible.

FYI I am using the Cessna 414AW Chancellor and was flying finals at 135, I referred to 150 only to demonstrate how I calculated descent rate as it was easier to calculate than using 135 however I take on board the suggestion of 125/130 and slower where there is no commercial traffic (but not at YSCB).

Thanks again.

 

 

135 on Final?

21 minutes ago, Rusty Spanner said:

135 on Final?

There's no toilet on a Chancellor. Sometimes desperate situations require desperate measures...

13 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Just a perfect response brought to you by Scott!

Awww.

1 hour ago, tttocs said:

Awww.

Haha!  I appreciate someone that brings pilot side expertise to a sim.  I know there's a few of us here.  I'm not IR but I've flown plenty of IFR and IMC flights as PIC.  Someday I'll get my rating.

135 on final  -    sorry to all the pundits, I should have stated 135 on approach (note my earlier post when I correctly stated approach). Of course final would be with flaps near or at full and so much slower than 135 maybe 105?

Just a student trying to increase my knowledge. Sorry.

Edited May 24, 20251 yr by Jarnie
maybe 105?

1 hour ago, Jarnie said:

135 on final  -    sorry to all the pundits, I should have stated 135 on approach (note my earlier post when I correctly stated approach). Of course final would be with flaps near or at full and so much slower than 135 maybe 105?

Just a student trying to increase my knowledge. Sorry.

The pilot who wrote a book about his 414 swore by 100 knots all the way to the end of the runway..

12 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

I'm not IR but I've flown plenty of IFR and IMC flights as PIC.

How can you do that?
Al

1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

The pilot who wrote a book about his 414 swore by 100 knots all the way to the end of the runway..

Thanks for the info.

 

57 minutes ago, ark said:

How can you do that?
Al

Because I was the sole manipulator of the controls and rated on the aircraft.  I'm clarifying though that I was logging PIC and NOT acting as pic as those are different things.

Edited May 25, 20251 yr by ryanbatc

Just for my knowledge I tracked a Cessna 208B Caravan on FlightRadar24 into YBAS (elevation 1789 feet) and noted the following -

Approached at 178 kts ground speed at 7225 feet barometric pressure

Then (accirdi8ng to FlightRadar)

151 kts at 5350 feet barometric pressure

143 kts at 3900 feet barometric pressure

135 kts at 2800 feet barometric pressure (about 7 minutes before landing)

100 kts at 2300 feet barometric pressure

Regards

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 20251 yr by Jarnie

Further to my previous reply (sorry forgot to also state) -

Up to the second last line (135 kts at 2800 feet) the Cessna caravan was flying downwind.

Then turned onto the base leg  116 kts at 2700 feet and almost immediately turned onto the final leg.

 

On 5/25/2025 at 12:04 AM, Jarnie said:

135 on final  -    sorry to all the pundits, I should have stated 135 on approach (note my earlier post when I correctly stated approach). Of course final would be with flaps near or at full and so much slower than 135 maybe 105?

Just a student trying to increase my knowledge. Sorry.

Well this all depends on what you think "Final" and "approach" mean.

Whilst you would want to be slower over the hedge than 3 miles out, speed should be relatively stable all the way down and 135 is a tad frisky

 

Many POHs are available with a quick google..https://redcliffeaeroclub.com.au/download/c414a-poh-pdf/#

 

6 hours ago, Jarnie said:

Further to my previous reply (sorry forgot to also state) -

Up to the second last line (135 kts at 2800 feet) the Cessna caravan was flying downwind.

Then turned onto the base leg  116 kts at 2700 feet and almost immediately turned onto the final leg.

 

Disregard I didnt read the preceeding post

Edited May 26, 20251 yr by Rusty Spanner