May 26, 20251 yr 19 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: It's nice to switch back and forth, keeps me on my toes. Landing the Fenix and the Boeings is certainly different. Variety is the spice of flight and all that jazz! Chris Howard
May 26, 20251 yr 18 hours ago, rick celik said: Definitely not. Definitely definitely not. How so? Do you own FSLa321? Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
May 26, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, YukonPete said: How so? Do you own FSLa321? Anyone with with 2 eyes know Fenix is the superior model wise on the other hand systems model is debatable between Fenix and FS Labs..
May 26, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, JBDB-MD80 said: Anyone with with 2 eyes know Fenix is the superior model wise on the other hand systems model is debatable between Fenix and FS Labs.. I'm not into Malware add-ons with my aircraft, so I will stick with Fenix.
May 26, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I'm not into Malware add-ons with my aircraft, so I will stick with Fenix. Let it go Bob its over with. Crazy fact some lead developer on FSL had worked for PMDG in the past your favorite company and Matias Kok jump ship from Aerosoft to join PMDG. Lets not throw stones. Edited May 26, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80
May 26, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, JBDB-MD80 said: Let it go Bob its over with. Crazy fact some lead developer on FSL had worked for PMDG in the past your favorite company and Matias Kok jump ship from Aerosoft to join PMDG. Lets not throw stones. Just my feeling, I don't deal with companies I don't respect. You do what you want, nobody is stopping you.
May 26, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Just my feeling, I don't deal with companies I don't respect. You do what you want, nobody is stopping you. Sure Bob you can if not respect FSL and support Fenix just like you do PMDG that is your choice and I respect that. FSL fiasco happened 8 years or so how long can we hold on this? Will I buy it in MSFS Nope. Edited May 26, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80
May 26, 20251 yr Commercial Member 4 hours ago, YukonPete said: How so? Do you own FSLa321? Here we go. whenever I see this, it reminds me of kids saying “I know you are you said you are but what am I”. Stop being so stubborn and silly. You don’t need to own it to see the screenshots and countless reviews saying exactly what I just said. BUT BUT DO YOU OWN THE FENIX???
May 27, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, rick celik said: Here we go. whenever I see this, it reminds me of kids saying “I know you are you said you are but what am I”. Stop being so stubborn and silly. You don’t need to own it to see the screenshots and countless reviews saying exactly what I just said. BUT BUT DO YOU OWN THE FENIX??? So in other words you don't have a reason why other than personal preference. Thats fine! Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
May 27, 20251 yr Commercial Member 17 minutes ago, YukonPete said: So in other words you don't have a reason why other than personal preference. Thats fine! You can have a personal preference, doesn’t mean the observation is correct. You can’t tell me the visuals on the labs is better than the Fenix. Cmon guys.
May 27, 20251 yr I own the Toliss A320 for Xplane, the Fenix for MSFS and the FSLabs for MSFS and here is how I rank them personally. Visual's 1-Fenix 2-FSLabs 3-Toliss System's 1-Toliss 2-FSLabs 3-Fenix My Preference 1-FSLabs 2-Toliss 3-Fenix All 3 of these birds offer something that the other does not, These are my preferences and my overall winner is the FSLabs. Visual fidelity isn't the only thing that matter's. I will say this the FSLabs has the best looking font's on the displays and are not as aliased as the Fenix, When using TAA and Frame Gen the Font's are a huge factor. Edited May 27, 20251 yr by sultanofswing --Sean Hart
May 27, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, sultanofswing said: System's 1-Toliss 2-FSLabs 3-Fenix Another reason why I went for the FSL, systems integrity is really important for me. I'm not sure why the FSL has a reputation for poor visuals. The Fenix may set the bar, but I think the A321 is comparable if not better than the PMDG 738. FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
May 27, 20251 yr On 5/26/2025 at 1:22 AM, sultanofswing said: Once you learn the Airbus Logic you will probably like it way more than Boeings lack of logic. The Airbus way really is very intuitive. I think that clanking round the sky in the 738 pushing loads of buttons is actually quite enjoyable 😉 FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
May 27, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, flyingscampi said: Another reason why I went for the FSL, systems integrity is really important for me. I'm not sure why the FSL has a reputation for poor visuals. The Fenix may set the bar, but I think the A321 is comparable if not better than the PMDG 738. A321 look fine to me, I am not out at 35000 feet trying to look at all the detail on the nose gear or in the wheel well. System's depth is most important to me and the FSL and Toliss both are ahead of the Fenix. The Fenix is still a very very good addon. --Sean Hart
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