Hmm, well, this is interesting... 

 

Lockheed Martin!  Gimme a break.

It's obviously Raytheon. 😄 

Hook

It's definitely not Boeing!🥸

All it took was for me to watch the first 30 seconds of that video to know that these people are so full of 💩Their eye's are brown

Perhaps the government, at the executive level, is also lying about planet earth being round. And denying the amazing intelligence of cats compared to humans. Cats sense that balls are false objects and bat them away. They love the truth and beauty of their flat dinner dish. 

Tic tac... LM.

The Nimitz incident was 20 years ago. 🤔

1 hour ago, martin-w said:

The Nimitz incident was 20 years ago. 🤔

Yes, and Howard’s experience was even longer ago.

If this were true Perhaps LM could explain why when the world is being told fossil fuels are the cause of the worlds imminent collapse they’ve been sat on what I can only presume is an extremely efficient and clean source of propulsion for the last 20 years? 
 

They can then go to also explain the stagnation in P3D default scenery development 😉

If these things were man made I’d have some very serious questions as to why they think it’s acceptable to fly these things without clearance,unchecked in controlled airspace in (very) close proximity to airliners.

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2 hours ago, jon b said:

If this were true Perhaps LM could explain why when the world is being told fossil fuels are the cause of the worlds imminent collapse they’ve been sat on what I can only presume is an extremely efficient and clean source of propulsion for the last 20 years? 

 

Exactly.

And what makes Coulthart so categorical about this? All very well claiming stuff, but where's the evidence? "What someone said" is not evidence. 

2 hours ago, jon b said:

If these things were man made I’d have some very serious questions as to why they think it’s acceptable to fly these things without clearance,unchecked in controlled airspace in (very) close proximity to airliners.

 

He did say the tic tac specifically. So not necessary other objects that fly in close proximity to airliners. 

4 hours ago, jon b said:

If this were true Perhaps LM could explain why when the world is being told fossil fuels are the cause of the worlds imminent collapse they’ve been sat on what I can only presume is an extremely efficient and clean source of propulsion for the last 20 years? 

These mega-corps and govts. couldn't care less about the environment, and have no interest in doing anything beneficial for all mankind.  They care about money and power, period.

Anyway, if they actually have anti-gravity technology, it is being used with drones, as the human body could not withstand the inertial forces like we saw with the tic tac UFO and as witnessed in many other UFO sightings.  I don't find it out of the realm of possibility that these mega defense companies, with the trillions of dollars plus black budget money pumped into them over the decades, have actually developed a new kind of propulsion that allows immense accelerations and speeds and instant 90-degree turns without using a conventional thruster.

They would not reveal this technology because the govt. wouldn't allow them to.  It would give the USA a huge edge in defense capability which an enemy would be blindsided by if it were utilized in a conflict, and by revealing it you lose the advantage of surprise.

The President and others have made statements to the effect that we have military capabilities the likes of which have never been seen and which would astound everybody.  Maybe this is what they mean.

Dave

As Martin said earlier, this relates to the TicTac incident in particular, it doesn't suggest that all sightings are now tech from aeronautical companies like LM. Make mo mistake about it, whatever there is, THERE IS DEFINITELY stuff that we cannot explain, whether the phenomenon is extraterrestrial, maybe tech from the future or simply amazing government technology that is so far advanced that it is ultra top secret, no one knows. But I promise everyone reading this, on my life, I can tell you quite categorically, that I know from experience there are things in the sky that defy explanation based on our current knowledge of physics and my own 'encounter.' OK, we see videos on YouTube that are clearly fake, we hear about 'lights in the sky' which TBH most can be disregarded as nothing more than aircraft landing lights. There are drones which fly with flashing lights, there's ball lightning, there are FPV racing drones that accomplish speeds over 100mph, there are all kinds of things which can be explained, but when there is something in the sky, and obvious explanations make no sense, then what are we left with, what the hell is it? I posted this video I made some time ago, but I'll pop this on here to effectively reiterate what I say about explanations, because I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who could suggest what I may have seen that night back in the 1970's. 

 

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1 hour ago, dave2013 said:

Anyway, if they actually have anti-gravity technology, it is being used with drones, as the human body could not withstand the inertial forces like we saw with the tic tac UFO and as witnessed in many other UFO sightings

 

Neither could the structure of a drone.

2 hours ago, Rocky_53 said:

As Martin said earlier, this relates to the TicTac incident in particular, it doesn't suggest that all sightings are now tech from aeronautical companies like LM. Make mo mistake about it, whatever there is, THERE IS DEFINITELY stuff that we cannot explain, whether the phenomenon is extraterrestrial, maybe tech from the future or simply amazing government technology that is so far advanced that it is ultra top secret, no one knows. But I promise everyone reading this, on my life, I can tell you quite categorically, that I know from experience there are things in the sky that defy explanation based on our current knowledge of physics and my own 'encounter.' OK, we see videos on YouTube that are clearly fake, we hear about 'lights in the sky' which TBH most can be disregarded as nothing more than aircraft landing lights. There are drones which fly with flashing lights, there's ball lightning, there are FPV racing drones that accomplish speeds over 100mph, there are all kinds of things which can be explained, but when there is something in the sky, and obvious explanations make no sense, then we are left with, then what the hell is it? I posted this video I made some time ago, but I'll pop this on here to effectively reiterate what I say about explanations, because I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who could suggest what I may have seen that night back in the 1970's. 

 

My dad was a highly experienced USN Aviator and Captain for a US major airline.

He told me a few stories for which he said pretty much the same thing: he didn't know what they were, but he knew they weren't swamp gas and such...

8 hours ago, martin-w said:

 

Neither could the structure of a drone.

Well, the footage of these objects is itself evidence that these objects can indeed withstand the forces.  Are you saying that you don't believe the footage is real?

If LM or another defense company has anti-gravity propelled drones, then they can also likely design and build them to be able to withstand the inertial forces.  Either that or the anti-gravity field is able to negate those forces.

Dave

I bought a pair of antigravity shoes from a door to door salesman. Made an offer I couldn't resist.