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Had me going there, Martin!  I thought a Marine was ambushed at a Crafts Fair or similar??  More ☕ needed!

He seems credible, but the topic is so controversial that doubts will always remain.

53 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

He seems credible, 

In England, in 1934, you didn't get more credible than a distinguished surgeon...

https://www.donttakepictures.com/dtp-blog/2017/4/19/the-loch-ness-monster-turns-83-the-story-of-the-surgeons-photograph

Yes, that is a good point. The difference here is that I could see that this Loch Ness monster photograph was a fake as soon as I saw it. The gentle ripples in the water made it obvious that the object in question was very small.

For those who don't read the long article:

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After Spurling revealed the photograph as a hoax, he explained that Wetherell had enlisted his help to create a model of the monster’s neck and place it on a toy submarine. Robert Kenneth Wilson was chosen to give the photograph to the media because of his trusted reputation as a doctor.

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You'll note that in all Ross Coulthard's stories the important thing about the witnesses is their 'credibility' and 'impeccable credentials'.

After all, when you're unable to produce a single shred of physical evidence you've got to have something to big up...

5 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

You'll note that in all Ross Coulthard's stories the important thing about the witnesses is their 'credibility' and 'impeccable credentials'.

After all, when you're unable to produce a single shred of physical evidence you've got to have something to big up...

I think you've misread this a bit. 

There are many thousands of people out there who claim to have had anomalous experiences..... A lot of them similar to this gentleman. (interestingly enough, quite a few similarities among the stories from unrelated witnesses) 

The journalist's job is to sift through them and present the most credible ones. People who's words should carry some weight. In this case, members of the military, government and intelligence services, or leaders from those organizations. These are not all backcountry farmers with a wild story (as the stigma would have you believe). 

Physical evidence is a whole other kettle of fish, and is problematic for a long list of reasons. Trying to prove something that contradicts established dogma is nearly impossible, or at least takes a very long time. Just ask Copernicus and Galileo (around 150 years in that case). Galileo's work was burned. 

.... and if you think that (or its equivalent) doesn't happen in modern times..... ask the guys who first proposed the theory that an asteroid impact wiped out the dinosaurs, or anyone who tried to present evidence that the Clovis people weren't the first culture in North America. In the latter case, physical evidence was ignored simply because it didn't fit the established narrative.

 

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No I do not believe him. When someone tells such tall tales, At least 99% of the time it is not true.  DUH!

3 hours ago, Fielder said:

No I do not believe him. When someone tells such tall tales, At least 99% of the time it is not true.  DUH!

Hallelujah, brother, Amen!

 

4 hours ago, Fielder said:

No I do not believe him. When someone tells such tall tales, At least 99% of the time it is not true.  DUH!

 

My two favorite words from last week. Liklihood. Probability. And if we ask what the liklihood of this being true is, we have to say extremely low. Zero evidence presented.

 

Two questions. 1. If this was some kind of illicit operation utilising hyper advanced reproduction alien tech, would these elite operatives have really just let them walk away?

2. Why would the craft just takeoff, demonstrating its mind-blowing secret capabilities while they were still watching, wouldn't it wait until they had gone?

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4 hours ago, DaviiB said:

There are many thousands of people out there who claim to have had anomalous experiences..... A lot of them similar to this gentleman. (interestingly enough, quite a few similarities among the stories from unrelated witnesses) 

 

Well, we know that 95% plus of "anomalous experiences" have mundane explanations and only a few percent are truly mysterious, so thousands dont mean much.

As for similarities, is that called copying? Or mistaking the same natural phenomenon for something fantastical? 

 

4 hours ago, DaviiB said:

and if you think that (or its equivalent) doesn't happen in modern times..... ask the guys who first proposed the theory that an asteroid impact wiped out the dinosaurs,

 

And so it should be. Convincing evidence is required. When that's provided the rest of the scientific community jump onboard. Using Galileo and Copernicus as an example isn't a good one, they were up against the religious community of the time, not the embryonic scientific community. 

Sadly, Giordano Bruno had an even worse punishment for daring to agree with the heliocentric model of the Solar System. He was burned at the stake

30 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Giordano Bruno

Huh.  This guy is fascinating.  Thanks for posting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

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