Just simple curiosity from an outsider looking in (was never a 737 nor PMDG enthusiast) just looking for some clarity here.

Wait so folks are seriously starving for something more than the PMDG 737 600-900 variant at this point?

The shorter tubby/stubby looking 736 isn't enough for your high fidelity bullpup design needs?

I thought PMDG 737 was the ultimate product for such hunger, to the point other developer versions of a 737 simulation would feel unneeded at this point.

Surprised PMDG haven't tackled the 735 model already, or are the users eyeing this particular 737 product here not PMDG fans/supporters simply wanting a 737 product from a different developer?

Edited September 2, 2025Sep 2 by blueshark747

4 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

Wait so folks are seriously starving for something more than the PMDG 737 600-900 variant at this point?

Well cause one is an NG and the other is a classic, it’s a different avionics platform, same reason the ifly is as popular as it is.

Is this really so difficult to figure out?

6 minutes ago, blueshark747 said:

or are the users eyeing this particular 737 product here not PMDG fans/supporters?

I don’t see why this has to be some kind of tribalism, if PMDG made classics I’d buy those but they don’t. I wanted a classic, CSS made one simple. 

On 8/3/2025 at 12:29 AM, Georgleboui said:

I think the sheer negativity thrown at these developers is wholly unreasonable. I remember watching the release and the absolute vitriol being thrown at them revealed a side of the flight sim community that I frankly found disgusting. It's fascinating seeing the residue of that hate in this thread too.

Yeah there were issues at release, and there are still a bunch of things that need improvement. But as @Lucky38i mentioned, there were a number of fixes already and there's a really positive momentum with improvements.

The developers have been open from the start that what you are buying into is an ongoing project that will cover the 737 classics. You're not obligated to buy it, they are not forcing you to spend $120 on it. I reckon it will take these guys a couple of years to deliver everything they set out to do, and that's okay.

If you're in any way interested there's a reasonable $5 sub for a month – see what it's currently like, gauge if it's up to your standards. Or not – just watch some YouTube videos. Or just sit back and see how it comes along / if these guys will pull it off. 

Also on the price – considering the scope, I don't think the full price is unreasonable. I'd say it would be on par with the PMDG 737 family in terms of models / extras delivered and it works out cheaper.

I think I'm going to wait and see how their 2024 compatibility comes along and how long it will take to get the -400 variant ready. Then I'll get probably go for the full price.

 

Yeah - fair take all ‘round. 

not sure when/if they’ll reach my personal value threshold, and I think that’ll take awhile. 
 

bit I won’t write them off - they just need to deliver that $120 worth of product first. 

id be willing to do the monthly thing if it offset the full price, but afaik it doesn’t. 

so, yeah - they need to show me theirs before I show them mine 😁

4 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

This product and the whole company are dead on arrival. You can't just come out of nowhere and ask 120 dollars for an aircraft that's way below average in regards to systems, visuals and sounds. 

Yep. 

if they had done what Blackbird did with the Dirty 30, I’d seriously consider it. 

Not a perfect parallel as BBS have a very well established track record, but the idea works for me. 

25 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Yeah - fair take all ‘round. 

not sure when/if they’ll reach my personal value threshold, and I think that’ll take awhile. 
 

bit I won’t write them off - they just need to deliver that $120 worth of product first. 

id be willing to do the monthly thing if it offset the full price, but afaik it doesn’t. 

so, yeah - they need to show me theirs before I show them mine 😁

100%.

I'll end up buying these outright because in my view the classic 737s are better above all the others.
(MAX is an abomination – fight me)

Right now patiently keeping an eye on the development process, keen to see what -400 ends up looking like with the new overhauled art and sounds. If those deliver on what they promise I'll hop in.

3 hours ago, blueshark747 said:

Just simple curiosity from an outsider looking in (was never a 737 nor PMDG enthusiast) just looking for some clarity here.

Wait so folks are seriously starving for something more than the PMDG 737 600-900 variant at this point?

The shorter tubby/stubby looking 736 isn't enough for your high fidelity bullpup design needs?

I thought PMDG 737 was the ultimate product for such hunger, to the point other developer versions of a 737 simulation would feel unneeded at this point.

Surprised PMDG haven't tackled the 735 model already, or are the users eyeing this particular 737 product here not PMDG fans/supporters simply wanting a 737 product from a different developer?

Great point. 

i still can’t bring myself to buy the iFly yet. But that calculus is rapidly changing with the ongoing PMDG 737 delays combined with the very good reputation it’s building 

Other than that, it must be the folks who want something a bit different, and perhaps to see PMDG get some competitive pressure

for my taste, the Avro RJ is hitting well, and is something distinctly different and interesting vs Just Another Twin Jet 😁

 

12 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Great point. 

i still can’t bring myself to buy the iFly yet. But that calculus is rapidly changing with the ongoing PMDG 737 delays combined with the very good reputation it’s building 

Other than that, it must be the folks who want something a bit different, and perhaps to see PMDG get some competitive pressure

for my taste, the Avro RJ is hitting well, and is something distinctly different and interesting vs Just Another Twin Jet 😁

 

I feel that!

Right now I'm loving my rotation of Avro RJ, E190 Freighter, TBM 850 and Citation X.🍻

Some news about development, some pics on this link below

https://css.aero/post/news190925

CSS News - September 19, 2025
Welcome to another edition of the CSS Blog where we keep you up to date with our latest developments. We have quite a bit to talk about, so get ready!

Systems

A lot of effort is being put into improving the CSS 737's systems and fixing bugs - we're anticipating an update with a considerable amount of fixes and improvements.

Amongst those are improvements to the FCC and Stab Trim, DIR TO function and VNAV descent deceleration logic, adjustments to Autoland, Flaps lift & drag, Stall Warning Computer and several bug fixes, including the speedbrake lever not being animated, autobrake disarming on its own, CLB N1 not matching the FMC value, Green Dot speed appearing above FL200 and many more fixes and improvements.

As always, our to-do list is constantly growing and we appreciate feedback from each and every one of you as we continue to make the CSS 737 better with each update.

New Liveries

Our team has prepared five beautiful new liveries for the CSS 737-500, which will soon become available for download through the CSS Launcher. The new liveries are:

-CSA (SkyTeam) OK-XGE
-Luxair LX-LGO
-Dniproavia UR-DND
-Air Berlin OY-APL
-Pegasus "Avea" TC-AAG

We will continue adding new official liveries for the 737-500 and other variants as time goes on. Keep an eye on the #community-liveries channel in our Discord for previews from both our team and talented community painters!

Sounds

Unfortunately, implementing the new sound pack within the sim is taking longer than anticipated (and our coder has some very strong words about the Wwise SDK), however, as a preview of what is to come, new Trim Wheel and Ground Roll sounds have been included in the coming CSS 737-500 update. As for the rest, stay tuned!

737-400 Progress

Work is moving along on the 737-400 external model, which will serve as the basis for the CSS 737 Classic V2. Photogrammetry work is being carried out on a real (albeit retired) 737-400 to help us model the fuselage as precisely as possible. The wings are also progressing nicely, with our modellers focusing on the slats and spoilers as of recent. Interior wise, the oxygen mask has seen some love, and new trim wheels, complete with animated handles, has been fitted to the throttle quadrant.

As a quick reminder, all renders are work in progress and do not represent the final product.

As always, we appreciate your feedback and support. Our team is continuously working, evolving and learning new techniques to improve and streamline the development process. Rest assured, even when we're quiet, we're always cooking - and there is no better feeling than reading the community's responses after each update. So thank you again, and stay tuned for things to come!