August 2, 2025Aug 2 3 hours ago, Swe_Richard said: Oh! I didn't know that. Thought it was only the 500 variant. If indeed it also includes pax/cargo variants my interest just got piqued. Are you that easy to fool? A completely new developer with no reputation bad or good, asks 150€ in advance for an entire line of products that will be developed. As they say... If an established entity like Fenix, PMDG, Inibuilds, A2A would come up with a payment option like that, you should consider, but a new developing studio? No way.
August 2, 2025Aug 2 He did not say that he was going to pay the 150 Euros up front. Maybe he will be interested enough to pay 6 Euros to check the -500 out, and then wait for another variant to be released before considering the entire package? Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
August 2, 2025Aug 2 1 hour ago, Farlis said: Are you that easy to fool? No. I am not. As that 'complete package' isn't even released yet I am patiently watching and waiting..? Richard 7950x3d | 32Gb 6000mHz RAM | 8Tb NVme | RTX 4090 | MSFS | P3D | XP12
August 2, 2025Aug 2 3 hours ago, Cognita said: There is something a little off-putting, for lack of a better word, to be asked to pay upfront for a product(s) that I cannot enjoy, not even in early access, that are not even likely developed yet. I am quite unimpressed by such a strategy and consequently would avoid purchasing. In doing so I would be paying for a promise that may or may not come through. It is not even that I do not trust the developer, but the first release was kind of lackluster, they are relatively new on the scene, and we may have MSFS2028 before they can finish all those variants to a high-fidelity level. This is a permanent hard pass for me. I can't help but call out on the double standard here though... Fenix released on the promise of releasing new engine variants and sharklets. PMDG released on a multitude of promises. FSS released on the promise of a variety of items for their 727 and E-Jets. TFDI released on the promise of releasing a number of things. I could go on and on. Some of these developers delivered, others are inthe progress of doing so. Two of the 4 developers I mentioned are new to the scene might I add. I understand sure don't pay for promises, but permanently closing off CSS for doing the same practices as a variety of other developers seems a bit hypocritcal to me. Unless I'm to assume you never paid a dime to the aforementioned devs as-well as any other dev in the community that releases aircraft with the promise of post-release features. I do however, agree the initial release was lackluster but I have to give credit where it's due. The developers are active in discord nearly every day acknowleding most if not all bugs. Posting blog posts update the current state of things and speedily providing bug fixes. Did it have to be this way? no they could've released a more stable product on launch, but at least they're making some efforts to save face and maintaing their product.
August 2, 2025Aug 2 2 hours ago, YukonPete said: This was released a few months back and it was so broken that it was not usable for the first 3+ weeks. Yeah it was terrible and since then the developers have been releasing updates and bug fixes on average every 2 weeks. Little disengenous to call it a money grab when it's being actively improved on. 2 hours ago, YukonPete said: They said they would extend subscribers to compensate the terrible state of the release. They only added 7 days when the product wasn't usable for almost a month. Well.. that's not entirely true. For everyone who purchased our aircraft by subscription between 30.05.2025 and 04.06.2025, when there were server issues, your licenses were automatically extended until 05.07.2025.
August 2, 2025Aug 2 I took one look at this and I got a strong whiff of something that registered in my olfactory memory...couldn't tell if it was old-timey Ariane/Peter Tishma deceptive marketing or just your run of the mill "pay super-premium price now for super-premium promises to be (maybe) kept later" Brimstone. I'd be careful with this one. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
August 2, 2025Aug 2 Price aside, I suggest you watch some video reviews before buying this... most people think it's seriously lacking in several categories. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
August 3, 2025Aug 3 13 hours ago, Dillon said: Anyone tried this yet: simMarket: 737 CLASSIC (PERMANENT LICENSE) - MSFS20/24 I read the description at the website. This phrase in red capital letters caught my attention: THIS LICENSE GRANTS YOU ACCESS TO THE CSS 737 CLASSIC FOREVER. It's an interesting choice of words. "Forever" is a very, very long time. I'm wondering if that applies to future versions of MSFS as well. Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by bofhlusr Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
August 3, 2025Aug 3 11 hours ago, Christopher Low said: when IF they are released. Being the operative phrase - no thanks. Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by DavidP David Porrett
August 3, 2025Aug 3 €130? Last time I paid that kind of money was for the PMDG 747 for P3D. Neeeext! Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
August 3, 2025Aug 3 6 hours ago, Lucky38i said: Edit: Nevermind Edited August 3, 2025Aug 3 by JBDB-MD80
August 3, 2025Aug 3 6 hours ago, Lucky38i said: I can't help but call out on the double standard here though... Fenix released on the promise of releasing new engine variants and sharklets. PMDG released on a multitude of promises. FSS released on the promise of a variety of items for their 727 and E-Jets. TFDI released on the promise of releasing a number of things. I could go on and on. Some of these developers delivered, others are inthe progress of doing so. Two of the 4 developers I mentioned are new to the scene might I add. This is a fair comment, but I am still left unimpressed. I also avoided both E-Jets and TFDI, E-Jets as again a lackluster launch from a relatively unknown developer; TFDI because their track record with the 717 in P3D was not so good and I did not have confidence they would pull together a high-fidelity aircraft proportionate to the amount they were charging; and so far I think my assessment has been confirmed. Fenix and PMDG are a little different as they both delivered a high-quality, high-fidelity addon at a reasonable price, a price in line with what I expect based on historical pricing. In both cases, had they not fulfilled any of their promises it would have been a good value for the money. This developer is asking me to pay over 4 times the cost of the A320 for variants and options that are nowhere in sight and could be many months or even years off. They have no proven track record, no history to judge on, only a rather poor launch of their first product -- compare that to the initial launch of the Fenix in May 2022. And yes the Fenix was not there, it had a lot that needed to be worked out but to me it was worth the 50 dollars even in that state and I am flabbergasted as to how much Fenix has added to that aircraft free of charge in the 3 years since it launched; compared to PMDG that will need to charge us a cup of coffee to bring their 737 into 2024 and add features that really should have been there already -- but this is a digression. Had they charged 50 dollars for the 500 I would have taken a good hard look and maybe picked it up; but I would never pay 200 dollars for aircraft that are nowhere in sight; and I would not even want them all. The pricing model is strange on top of the rather poor launch, I just can't see me going for this. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
August 3, 2025Aug 3 6 hours ago, Bob Scott said: I took one look at this and I got a strong whiff of something that registered in my olfactory memory...couldn't tell if it was old-timey Ariane/Peter Tishma deceptive marketing or just your run of the mill "pay super-premium price now for super-premium promises to be (maybe) kept later" Brimstone. I'd be careful with this one. Who is Peter Tishma? This made for an interesting read on a lazy Saturday afternoon... Hardware: i7-8700k, GTX 1070-ti, 32GB ram, NVMe/SSD drives with lots of free space. Software: latest Windows 10 Pro, P3Dv4.5+, FSX Steam, and lots of addons (100+ mostly Orbx stuff).
August 3, 2025Aug 3 I am glad they put winglets on it. I may bite once the 300 and 400 are done and it goes gets a few more updates. It will depend on how well it tracks with the community.
August 3, 2025Aug 3 4 hours ago, Cognita said: This is a fair comment, but I am still left unimpressed. I also avoided both E-Jets and TFDI, E-Jets as again a lackluster launch from a relatively unknown developer; TFDI because their track record with the 717 in P3D was not so good and I did not have confidence they would pull together a high-fidelity aircraft proportionate to the amount they were charging; and so far I think my assessment has been confirmed. Fenix and PMDG are a little different as they both delivered a high-quality, high-fidelity addon at a reasonable price, a price in line with what I expect based on historical pricing. In both cases, had they not fulfilled any of their promises it would have been a good value for the money. This developer is asking me to pay over 4 times the cost of the A320 for variants and options that are nowhere in sight and could be many months or even years off. They have no proven track record, no history to judge on, only a rather poor launch of their first product -- compare that to the initial launch of the Fenix in May 2022. And yes the Fenix was not there, it had a lot that needed to be worked out but to me it was worth the 50 dollars even in that state and I am flabbergasted as to how much Fenix has added to that aircraft free of charge in the 3 years since it launched; compared to PMDG that will need to charge us a cup of coffee to bring their 737 into 2024 and add features that really should have been there already -- but this is a digression. Had they charged 50 dollars for the 500 I would have taken a good hard look and maybe picked it up; but I would never pay 200 dollars for aircraft that are nowhere in sight; and I would not even want them all. The pricing model is strange on top of the rather poor launch, I just can't see me going for this. These are fair views, hopefully if CSS delivers you’ll give them another chance or perhaps try the monthly or annual rentals.
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