October 3, 2025Oct 3 I have the PMDG 777-200ER and PMDG 777-300ER for MSFS 2024. What am I missing not having the PMDG 777-200LR? I assume everything in the 200LR is just as good as in the 200ER and 300ER. That being the case, why is it only $49.99? Is this a flight sim bargain I shouldn't pass up? Lastly, what is your favorite PMDG 777 and why? Edited October 3, 2025Oct 3 by alanw2005 Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
October 3, 2025Oct 3 6 minutes ago, alanw2005 said: I have the PMDG 777-200ER and PMDG 777-300ER for MSFS 2024. What am I missing not having the PMDG 777-200LR? I assume everything in the 200LR is just as good as in the 200ER and 300ER. That being the case, why is it only $49.99? Is this a flight sim bargain I shouldn't pass up? Lastly, what is your favorite PMDG 777 and why? 200LR has more range (The longest range of the 3), same size as the 200ER but only one engine option. Now I'm actually confused why the 300ER costs as much as it does, it offers pretty much the same package as the 200LR in terms of feature set. Favorite? whichever gives me the most variety so probably the 200ER as it has 3 engine options. I don't care enough to fly specific variants for a particular airline.
October 3, 2025Oct 3 The LR is used by a small number of airliners maybe that’s why it would be less attractive to get Shom MSFS2024 running on Win 11, 4K screen, Z790 AORUS ELITE AX-W, i9-14900K, MSI 3080Ti, Corsair 2x32GB 6000 MHz, 1+2TB M.2 NVMEs
October 3, 2025Oct 3 Author 33 minutes ago, Lucky38i said: 200LR has more range (The longest range of the 3), same size as the 200ER but only one engine option. Now I'm actually confused why the 300ER costs as much as it does, it offers pretty much the same package as the 200LR in terms of feature set. Favorite? whichever gives me the most variety so probably the 200ER as it has 3 engine options. I don't care enough to fly specific variants for a particular airline. Got it!! 15 hour flight sim sessions!!! But the discpunted price is puzzling. Edited October 3, 2025Oct 3 by alanw2005 Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
October 3, 2025Oct 3 The pricing is really down to how popular they are. It was the same with the 737s where the -600 IIRC was the cheapest one as its not as popular in the real world operations. Edited October 3, 2025Oct 3 by Zangoose Vote to fix transparent sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/
October 3, 2025Oct 3 57 minutes ago, Zangoose said: The pricing is really down to how popular they are. It was the same with the 737s where the -600 IIRC was the cheapest one as its not as popular in the real world operations. No... the -600 simply comes with only the passenger variant, same for the -900. the -800 and -700 came with Passenger, Cargo, Business and BDSF hence the price. The pricing for all the 737 lineup is a lot more reflective with what you get. However, with the 300ER it's just the passenger variant. If we're using the 737 lineup as comparison, then the pricing the for 777 genuinely doesn't make a lot of sense, particularly the 300ER. the 200ER I can understand because we have 3 engine options. The 200LR and 777F are the exact same aircraft, just one is cargo, the pricing for those makes even less sense, why not just make it one product for $77 and include both variants? their just really isn't a lot of coherency when it comes to the pricing for the 777 lineup.
October 3, 2025Oct 3 I bought the -LR only because it’s used in real life by my home country Airline (AC) so I’ll get use out of it. Plus I got it on sale. Otherwise I probably wouldn’t have bothered and just stuck with the other 777s. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
October 3, 2025Oct 3 These days IRL there are very few LR operators - Many operators have transferred LR routes to either B787 or A350 both of which offer greater efficiency then LR. Having said that it wasn't the most popular 777 variant either, Only 61 were built and delivered. Should you get 200LR - Depends on what you want out of it. If your needs are met with either B77W or B772 then there is no need to get 200LR variant. If you want to simulate realistic ultra long range routes (Very few exist IRL) or if you fly for VA that requires you to fly them then of course pick it up. But since you already own and fly the other variants - you would not notice a difference between the 200LR or 200ER from pilot's point of view. They both still handle the same. I'll highlight some of points for 200LR vs 200ER below: 200LR Has MTOW of around 347400 KGS Only one engine option available - GE90 Engines rated at either 110,000 or 115,000 lbs of thrust - essentially same engines as 300ER variant Depending on operator's configuration can seat up to 317 passengers Has range of almost 8500 NM Essentially same length as 200ER however it has extended wing tips, small changes to landing gear configuration and AUX fuel tanks as an option 200ER Has MTOW of around 297500 KGS Three different engine options PW4000, Trent 800, GE90 Again depending on operator's configuration can seat up to 313 passengers Has range of almost 7000NM Same length as 200LR - however there are no wing tips extension.
October 3, 2025Oct 3 1 hour ago, Lucky38i said: No... the -600 simply comes with only the passenger variant, same for the -900. the -800 and -700 came with Passenger, Cargo, Business and BDSF hence the price. The pricing for all the 737 lineup is a lot more reflective with what you get. However, with the 300ER it's just the passenger variant. If we're using the 737 lineup as comparison, then the pricing the for 777 genuinely doesn't make a lot of sense, particularly the 300ER. the 200ER I can understand because we have 3 engine options. The 200LR and 777F are the exact same aircraft, just one is cargo, the pricing for those makes even less sense, why not just make it one product for $77 and include both variants? their just really isn't a lot of coherency when it comes to the pricing for the 777 lineup. Fair enough, but yeah thats pmdg for you. Vote to fix transparent sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/
October 3, 2025Oct 3 Author 1 hour ago, regis9 said: I bought the -LR only because it’s used in real life by my home country Airline (AC) so I’ll get use out of it. Plus I got it on sale. Otherwise I probably wouldn’t have bothered and just stuck with the other 777s. Same! I am in CYVR. I will pick it up direct from PMDG to support them. Thanks!! Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
October 3, 2025Oct 3 Author 35 minutes ago, CAP1234 said: These days IRL there are very few LR operators - Many operators have transferred LR routes to either B787 or A350 both of which offer greater efficiency then LR. Having said that it wasn't the most popular 777 variant either, Only 61 were built and delivered. Should you get 200LR - Depends on what you want out of it. If your needs are met with either B77W or B772 then there is no need to get 200LR variant. If you want to simulate realistic ultra long range routes (Very few exist IRL) or if you fly for VA that requires you to fly them then of course pick it up. But since you already own and fly the other variants - you would not notice a difference between the 200LR or 200ER from pilot's point of view. They both still handle the same. I'll highlight some of points for 200LR vs 200ER below: 200LR Has MTOW of around 347400 KGS Only one engine option available - GE90 Engines rated at either 110,000 or 115,000 lbs of thrust - essentially same engines as 300ER variant Depending on operator's configuration can seat up to 317 passengers Has range of almost 8500 NM Essentially same length as 200ER however it has extended wing tips, small changes to landing gear configuration and AUX fuel tanks as an option 200ER Has MTOW of around 297500 KGS Three different engine options PW4000, Trent 800, GE90 Again depending on operator's configuration can seat up to 313 passengers Has range of almost 7000NM Same length as 200LR - however there are no wing tips extension. I spoke to soon. Now you have changed my mind. Geez! Thanks for the detailed specs!!! Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
October 3, 2025Oct 3 6 hours ago, Zangoose said: The pricing is really down to how popular they are. It was the same with the 737s where the -600 IIRC was the cheapest one as its not as popular in the real world operations. The pricing of the -600 was set specifically to provide a 'taster' of PMDG aircraft for the enormous cross platform market MSFS has access to. I got the 200 LR in PMDG's anniversary sale. It was an irresistible bargain...
October 3, 2025Oct 3 8 hours ago, alanw2005 said: What am I missing not having the PMDG 777-200LR? [...] Lastly, what is your favorite PMDG 777 and why? For me it's summed up in two words, my bud... raked wingtips. I absolutely love the look of them and it's why I wished PMDG released the P-8 for their 737 even if it's only an external model.
October 3, 2025Oct 3 Author 5 hours ago, Kevin_28 said: For me it's summed up in two words, my bud... raked wingtips. I absolutely love the look of them and it's why I wished PMDG released the P-8 for their 737 even if it's only an external model. Thanks Bruh! Love the minutae on the 777 series. Just learned something new. At this price as @DD_Arthur has said, it is an irresistable bargain. @Kevin_28, @DD_Arthur and @regis9, before I purchase this can you please tell me about the livery options? Does it come with liveries in the PMDG OC or do I have to make a donation to a developer? Lastly, have you seen Air Canada? Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
October 3, 2025Oct 3 It comes with liveries. However note that they are very limited from PMDG's side as there are only a handful of operators. You will likely need to go to addon sites like flightsim.to to find additional fictional liveries. There are significantly more now than there were even just a couple months ago.
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