Allegedly the Org has been upgrading its software platform - it is apparent now how - they are throttling downloads and searches. This is a real problem because many developers (most) use the Skunkcraft Updater which by design requires it to access the files stored not at the developer but at the org. My log texts tell me that repeated attempts to update files fail because the remote server (The Org) closes the connection on the updater - this has become a frequent occurrence and rendered a couple of my installations useless as the file updates remain incomplete. 

I also noted that searches at the Org are repeatedly timeout and an error message is delivered to wait 20-secs+ before doing another search - which may be as simple a demand as going back to the original Org list of files not having conducted a search at all merely asked for a list of displayed files. I am finding it is easier to do a Google search for a file and then go to it that way rather than the Org search function which is a bust again I am sure what they are doing is not adding server capacity but limiting access or demand on their servers.

Really time for an alternate website for XPlane stuff (Alas good sites like AVSIM and a couple of others have become almost moribund these days for XPlane stuff. Not sure if Laminars store will fix this or help out but the Org is just a source of frustration and annoyance these days. 

Hi,

I upload my stuff to https://x-plane.to/ Haven't been to the org since my issue with nick, glad I can get my files from other locations.

40 minutes ago, coastaldriver said:

Allegedly the Org has been upgrading its software platform - it is apparent now how - they are throttling downloads and searches. This is a real problem because many developers (most) use the Skunkcraft Updater which by design requires it to access the files stored not at the developer but at the org. My log texts tell me that repeated attempts to update files fail because the remote server (The Org) closes the connection on the updater - this has become a frequent occurrence and rendered a couple of my installations useless as the file updates remain incomplete. 

I also noted that searches at the Org are repeatedly timeout and an error message is delivered to wait 20-secs+ before doing another search - which may be as simple a demand as going back to the original Org list of files not having conducted a search at all merely asked for a list of displayed files. I am finding it is easier to do a Google search for a file and then go to it that way rather than the Org search function which is a bust again I am sure what they are doing is not adding server capacity but limiting access or demand on their servers.

Really time for an alternate website for XPlane stuff (Alas good sites like AVSIM and a couple of others have become almost moribund these days for XPlane stuff. Not sure if Laminars store will fix this or help out but the Org is just a source of frustration and annoyance these days. 

That timeout supposedly  to fight bots, but dont mention it or complain, it will be teh end. Are you using teh new standalone updater,?? mine works fine.

Edited October 14, 2025Oct 14 by mjrhealth

Yeah supposedly will recheck the Skunkcraft thing! I would be a lot happier to get stuff from the developer direct but many prefer the ORG route, even had a whinge to Tolliss about it (shrugged!). This all came about with SAM corrupting my XPLANE install and requiring a complete rebuild. Been engaged in the tidy up update route for 5 days now and getting rid of a lot of rubbish that had accumulated. Now all we need is Googles upgraded AI driven search rubbish to kill it all good!

Edited October 14, 2025Oct 14 by coastaldriver

Sam is still as far as i know, not xp12 compatible.people use open sam

3 hours ago, coastaldriver said:

stored not at the developer but at the org

Are developers paying org for this bandwidth? 

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Sam is still as far as i know, not xp12 compatible.people use open sam

Seems Open Sam is a bust too! I cannot find a working copy for XP12.3

 

10 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

Are developers paying org for this bandwidth? 

Well the Org would not be doing it for free probably taking a % cut at point of sale!

4 hours ago, blingthinger said:

Are developers paying org for this bandwidth? 

Most stores will take a percentage of the original sale, so indirectly the dev is paying for it as well as the processing costs. However, x-plane.org hosts a lot of free content as well as the forum, and bandwidth isn't cheap.

It'll be nice when XP has an in-built store and has at least some requirements on what is considered a paid addon.

8 minutes ago, tonywob said:

and bandwidth isn't cheap.

 

On 10/14/2025 at 7:30 PM, coastaldriver said:

Seems Open Sam is a bust too! I cannot find a working copy for XP12.3

 

Did you look on Hotbso’s GitHub?

fich777 thanks finally got it and installed no issues.

On 10/15/2025 at 9:07 AM, tonywob said:

It'll be nice when XP has an in-built store and has at least some requirements on what is considered a paid addon.

It is coming as soon as 2024! 🙂 

https://www.x-plane.com/2024/02/introducing-the-x-plane-store/

On 10/16/2025 at 7:01 AM, peroni said:

It is coming as soon as 2024! 🙂 

https://www.x-plane.com/2024/02/introducing-the-x-plane-store/

Well, it's 2026 now and we still have no store.

I am using the standalone Skuncrafts Updater.

Regarding throttling if it's really the case, I can't blame them since they offer the access to their file library (just as the old AVSIM file library) for free, and we know costs aren't null, and they only profit from the sales they do through their store.

In Condorsoaring for example, if I want non-throttled access to sceneries and goodies I have to pay €11 / year...