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Correct VFR Landing Procedure

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Hi guys, I understand that landings must adhere to the traffic pattern, whether the airport is controlled or uncontrolled. However, there is an exception: when the final approach leg is relatively close to the runway, it is not necessary to enter the pattern (as seen in the image).

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So, if that's true, at what approximate distance should I align with the runway, and at what angle should I deviate from the approach leg to intercept the point for aligning with the runway?

Would that be the pilot's decision?

 

NOTE: In the image, the intention is to land on runway 20, as the winds are coming from the front.

If you're VFR and not under the control of ATC/tower, you can do a straight in final at your discretion in terms of when/where to turn and to align up the approach.

If the airport is busy with multiple airplanes taking off/landing in the pattern, it's the best practice to join the pattern via downwind, upwind etc, and land. To my understanding, FAA has no mandatory rules on how a VFR airplane should enter the pattern at an uncontrolled airport, only advisories. 

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For the image above, in the real world I would absolutely still make a standard join and land with consideration to traffic in the pattern.

The only time I may consider a straight in approach in a case like that is if I've been monitoring and calling on the advisory frequency for a reasonable amount of time and can hear that (i) it's very quiet and (ii) no-one will be impacted by my convenient 'straight in'.

(I fly in the UK and mainland Europe).

But as touched upon above, airmanship is often about etiquette, convention and consideration, more than it is about "rules".   I've seen a lot of videos of flights in the US where pilots just fly straight onto a final, where other aircraft are in the pattern.  You can sometimes hear those pilots in the pattern respond to radio calls with comments like "ok, we'll extend our downwind to let you in" (sometimes sounding charitable and other times sounding less than impressed) 🙂

It's not too different to road users - some are considerate of others and others are only interested in their needs and wants.

All of this applies to VFR only.

Edited by JYW

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There are a lot mid air and near misses involving straight in in uncontrolled field.

The proper way to do it is to arrive 1000 ft above traffic pattern, overfly airfield, re-enter at 45  degrees on downwind and follow standard traffic to land. All check rides I took with FAA would ask for no less 

 

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17 minutes ago, JYW said:

But as touched upon above, airmanship is often about etiquette, convention and consideration, more than it is about "rules"

Amen.

Airmanship/Aeronautical decision making (whatever you call it)

Hard to develop in sims, and these sort of tiny decisions are what your CFI is looking from you in order to send you to PPL skill check.

How I would do it (not saying is the universal answer):

I am not fond of long straight in finals. I would brake off at 500ft above pattern altitude and traverse over the field (perpendicular to the runway) descend and join left downwind for rwy 20.

Perhaps 2NM final, maximum. Stable approach is the key but avoid B747 pattern size.

Edited by SAS443

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28 minutes ago, FlyIce said:

If you're VFR and not under the control of ATC/tower, you can do a straight in final at your discretion in terms of when/where to turn and to align up the approach.

If the airport is busy with multiple airplanes taking off/landing in the pattern, it's the best practice to join the pattern via downwind, upwind etc, and land. To my understanding, FAA has no mandatory rules on how a VFR airplane should enter the pattern at an uncontrolled airport, only advisories. 

 

18 minutes ago, JYW said:

For the image above, in the real world I would absolutely still make a standard join and land with consideration to traffic in the pattern.

The only time I may consider a straight in appraoch in a case like that is if I;ve been monitoring and calling on the advisory frequency for a reasonable amount of time and can hear that no-one will be impacted by my 'straight in'.

But as touched upon above, airmanship is often about etiquette, convention and consideration, more than it is about "rules".   I've seen a lot of videos of flights in the US where pilots just fly straight onto a final, where other aircraft are in the pattern.  You can sometimes hear those pilots in the pattern respond to radion calls with comments like "ok, we'll extend our downwind to let you in" (sometimes sounding charitable and other times less than impressed) 🙂

It's not too different to road users - some are considerate of others and others are only interested in their needs and wants.

All of this applies to VFR and visual approaches only.

I'd like to add the following: I use Pilot2ATC as my ATC, and I've noticed that it always sends me into the traffic pattern, whether there's traffic or not. However, Pilot2ATC allows me to request a direct entry during communications. So, my question is whether I should follow the pattern as Pilot2ATC tells me (even when there's no traffic), or in cases like the one in the image, request a direct entry.

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12 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

Amen.

Airmanship/Aeronautical decision making (whatever you call it)

Hard to develop in sims, and these sort of tiny decisions are what your CFI is looking from you in order to send you to PPL skill check.

How I would do it (not saying is the universal answer):

I am not fond of long straight in finals. I would brake off at 500ft above pattern altitude and traverse over the field (perpendicular to the runway) descend and join left downwind for rwy 20.

Perhaps 2NM final, maximum. Stable approach is the key but avoid B747 pattern size.

You enter the traffic pattern in cases like the image.

5 minutes ago, wilivarob said:

 

I'd like to add the following: I use Pilot2ATC as my ATC, and I've noticed that it always sends me into the traffic pattern, whether there's traffic or not. However, Pilot2ATC allows me to request a direct entry during communications. So, my question is whether I should follow the pattern as Pilot2ATC tells me (even when there's no traffic), or in cases like the one in the image, request a direct entry.

If you're aiming for your flight simulation to be realistic, I would personally enter the pattern.

If you're short on time or like the convenience of the direct entry, you could go for that.

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You definitely can request from tower or ATC for a direct entry to final . Whether it's granted though is their decision. 

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36 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

There are a lot mid air and near misses involving straight in in uncontrolled field.

The proper way to do it is to arrive 1000 ft above traffic pattern, overfly airfield, re-enter at 45  degrees on downwind and follow standard traffic to land. All check rides I took with FAA would ask for no less 

In conclusion, you enter the traffic pattern whether at controlled or uncontrolled airports.

The airport I learned to fly at ATC always said join overhead not below 2000 feet QFE, descend on the deadside for a left or right hand circuit (depending on which runway) at 100 feet QFE which is the normal procedure.  Ocassionally, I did get a fly left or right base or straight in but they were quite rate.  A straight in approach was more common at some other airfields.

In practice, you simply tell ATC who you are, where you are and intend to land and they provide instructions as appropriate (sometimes depending on how busy the traffic is).  If it's an airfield you fly at regularly, you normally know the procedure, though sometimes ATC give you a different instruction to that you may have expeced (rarely in my experience).

Care was needed to watch out for other aircraft in the circuit and the helicopter circuit was at 800 fet QFE

Edited by cianpars

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17 minutes ago, wilivarob said:

You enter the traffic pattern in cases like the image.

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Something like that.

(And yes, I'm fully aware FAA might not recommend this entry)

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I've recently started learning the proper ways to join a pattern and it is really rewarding.  One thing I notice is that straight in can sometimes be harder.  You try and manage speed and altitude from further out and can easily end up high or low (or constantly correcting).  I used to rely on an ILS or GPS approach (if available).

I've learned in the sim that flying the pattern leads to better landings.  As a sim only pilot, I could honestly barely fly a pattern.  Now I try to fly them all the time and my landings are much better, and simming is a bit more rewarding and consistent.  

There's many good youtube videos on entering the pattern and other things. 

Avweb has an interesting (and funny) video on this (some language).  

 

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Craig from KBUF

45 minutes ago, wilivarob said:

In conclusion, you enter the traffic pattern whether at controlled or uncontrolled airports.

I guess we can break this down to several scenarios: 

1. At controlled airport: you listen to ATC/Tower. You can request straight in final, but ATC/tower will make their decision whether to grant your request. This is actually pretty simple. 

2. At uncontrolled airport: things can a bit complicated. First, you should listen to CTAF radio long before you're close to an uncontrolled airport, know every airplane's position in the pattern, and announce your location and intention at least five miles away. In general, the most conservative, and in most cases the best practice, is to do a proper pattern entry as suggested by FAA advisory.

However, if the pattern is pretty much dead, you certainly can do a straight in long final at your discretion. And I often do that IRL flights too. 

Edited by FlyIce

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4 hours ago, FlyIce said:

I guess we can break this down to several scenarios: 

1. At controlled airport: you listen to ATC/Tower. You can request straight in final, but ATC/tower will make their decision whether to grant your request. This is actually pretty simple. 

2. At uncontrolled airport: things can a bit complicated. First, you should listen to CTAF radio long before you're close to an uncontrolled airport, know every airplane's position in the pattern, and announce your location and intention at least five miles away. In general, the most conservative, and in most cases the best practice, is to do a proper pattern entry as suggested by FAA advisory.

However, if the pattern is pretty much dead, you certainly can do a straight in long final at your discretion. And I often do that IRL flights too. 

Yep all good stuff for USA flying.  I also do straight in unless there's like more than 2 guys in the pattern... then I'll try to break off and come at the 45... or I'll sometimes do the overhead the field at pattern altitude.

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