April 24Apr 24 Moderator Hi @Stavros, I have many of those airports you mention plus many others all around the world. I rarely fly into the same airport on a frequent basis. It depends on what aircraft I’m flying. I have no doubt the best ones will beat those in P3D but my stock of airports has been accumulated over several years and would cost a small fortune to buy them for 2024. I’ll be visiting a friend who has 2024 in early May so I’ll ask him to show me his best airport. Some in P3D like Hong Kong and Shanghai are extremely impressive especially when you have all the AIG airlines too. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 24Apr 24 On 4/22/2026 at 4:12 PM, Ray Proudfoot said: That's very sad to read. Are people being too demanding? Is all that extra detail really necessary. I have all the FT airports for P3D and the quality is amongst the best available. Surely that quality would be sufficient for 2024. I don't think it is a problem with quality, Flightbeam and Flytampa are still on top. It's a problem about how fast you can produce those sceneries. Msfs20/24 are also very popular simulators so it also attracted a lot of newcomers devs. Even if you are a solo dev, it is difficult to make it a living when you can release a new scenery every two years. Yes, the market is bigger compared to FSX/P3D era but in the past, sceneries from FSDT/FT/FB were way better than the rest and there were few others devs to compete with. Now, there are way more devs, powerhouses like Inibuilds an Mk-Studios and the difference in term of quality is not that big as it was a few years before. and that's why, Inibuilds or Mk-Studios sceneries probably are enough good for a large majority of users. The market is bigger but is more diluted too. And as I said, in the past, big names like FT, FB, FSDT were respected. They had their list of airports, like a private garden and others devs were respecting it. Now you can work two years on a scenery, even announce it way before it release but another dev can overtake you anytime. FlyTampa need to update their EHAM to msfs24, it takes months and months and we clearly don't even know if they are working on it or not as their communication is always close to nil. People won't wait forever, the market for a new EHAM is here and tomorrow if Inibuilds release it, FT is screwed.
April 24Apr 24 Moderator 2 hours ago, sdirand said: I don't think it is a problem with quality, Flightbeam and Flytampa are still on top. It's a problem about how fast you can produce those sceneries. Tools like Google Earth Pro should be a great help. You can zoom all the way in to see parking position numbers and all the taxiway names. The terminal buildings need modelling but asking for photos of those shouldn’t be that difficult. Many developers may have full time jobs so time dedicated to developing scenery may be limited. My local airport, Manchester, has an extended leg on T2 but the UK2000 version I use is still fine by me. I haven’t visited many other airports but looking at Malaga shows it to be very close to reality. Two runways and extra terminal buildings. Biggest frustration is Dublin with the new second runway but it’s something I can live with. I don’t expect the developers to work on it for so few users. What is very important to me is an accurate Concorde and FS Labs version is the best but only available for P3Dv5. Swings and roundabouts. Win on some, lose on others. 😉 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 24Apr 24 3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Tools like Google Earth Pro should be a great help. You can zoom all the way in to see parking position numbers and all the taxiway names. The terminal buildings need modelling but asking for photos of those shouldn’t be that difficult. Many developers may have full time jobs so time dedicated to developing scenery may be limited. My local airport, Manchester, has an extended leg on T2 but the UK2000 version I use is still fine by me. I haven’t visited many other airports but looking at Malaga shows it to be very close to reality. Two runways and extra terminal buildings. Biggest frustration is Dublin with the new second runway but it’s something I can live with. I don’t expect the developers to work on it for so few users. What is very important to me is an accurate Concorde and FS Labs version is the best but only available for P3Dv5. Swings and roundabouts. Win on some, lose on others. 😉 MK Studios EIDW has the new runway EIDW Dublin Airport V2 - MK Studios
April 24Apr 24 Moderator 55 minutes ago, Nandengo12 said: MK Studios EIDW has the new runway EIDW Dublin Airport V2 - MK Studios Look at my signature. I’m running P3Dv5. 😉 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 24Apr 24 52 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Look at my signature. I’m running P3Dv5. 😉 My apologies, totally overlooked that 😅
April 24Apr 24 5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Tools like Google Earth Pro should be a great help. You can zoom all the way in to see parking position numbers and all the taxiway names. The terminal buildings need modelling but asking for photos of those shouldn’t be that difficult. Many developers may have full time jobs so time dedicated to developing scenery may be limited. For most developers I think it's become a full time job for them. Certainly for the bigger devs like inibuilds and MK Studios. Regarding google earth, these days it's not enough. Certainly a helpful tool but without site visits it's very hard to achieve the level of quality of the top developers. 7800X3D - RTX 5080 - 64GB DDR5 - Dan C4-SFX
April 25Apr 25 Would love a new MMUN and MMGL-the latter Magsoft Mexico payware has static jetways, right? and MMMX. FNLU Aeroporto Internacional Quatro de Fevereiro-the only payware MSFS one is by FSXScenery (oh dear) and lacks the immersion, accuracy and details of an iniBuilds FNLU would bring, same goes for HTDA-Dar es Salaam, a major Tanazanian airport. Edited April 25Apr 25 by amsfsx02501 MacBook Neo: A18 Pro with 6-core processor and 5-core graphics 8GB Unified Memory, macOS Tahoe, X-Plane 12 (12.40). Mac mini: M4 chip with 10 core processor, 10 core graphics, 16 GB Unified Memory, 256GB SSD, macOS Tahoe, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55). Lenovo Legion 5 16IRX9: Intel Core i9-14900HX, 32GB DDR5-4800 RAM, 1TB Micron NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB GPU and Intel UHD Graphics 16EU iGPU, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55) and Lenovo LOQ 15 15IAX9: Intel Core i5-12450HX, 24GB DDR5-4800 RAM, 1TB Solidigm NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2050 4GB GPU and Intel UHD Graphics 16EU iGPU, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, XX-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55). Alienware m15 R7: Intel Core i7-12700H, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55).
April 25Apr 25 Just in case an IniBuilds employee passes through these hallowed halls, I will mention this one again..... LMML Malta International Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 25Apr 25 On 4/22/2026 at 1:13 PM, Nandengo12 said: This one has been on the market awhile, have you checked it out? Double T Shenzhen Bao'an (ZGSZ) for MSFS-2020 – iniBuilds Store Double T is absolute incomplete garbage
April 25Apr 25 3 minutes ago, ErichB said: Double T is absolute incomplete garbage Nonetheless it is available. You would prefer nothing?
April 25Apr 25 1 hour ago, Nandengo12 said: Nonetheless it is available. You would prefer nothing? Actually, yes. I've been aware of that version for years. But thanks for the reference anyway. I know you meant it in good faith and it was no slight on you. I just cannot stand developers that exploit gaps in the market by pumping out incomplete garbage at inflated prices. Edited April 25Apr 25 by ErichB
April 25Apr 25 3 hours ago, Nandengo12 said: Nonetheless it is available. You would prefer nothing? "No airport" is better than a rubbish one. Edited April 25Apr 25 by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 25Apr 25 4 hours ago, Christopher Low said: "No airport" is better than a rubbish one. Maybe to you, others are probably happy to have something half decent if the price is reasonable. Unless one is intimately familiar with a particular airport, it can be fairly hard to judge anyway. I am certainly in no position to judge, as my small freeware airports are #%$^ compared to any of the big developers. Edited April 25Apr 25 by Nandengo12
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