7 hours ago, rick celik said:

Don't bother, some people on here get offended like it's their child when you bad mouth their sim of choice, developer or aircraft. 

I am not offended. I am just puzzled. The PMDG flight decks look excellent and very realistic to me. They do not look "cartoonish".

7 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I am not offended. I am just puzzled. The PMDG flight decks look excellent and very realistic to me. They do not look "cartoonish".

Look at the screenshots from the just flight a300 posts and then look at the real a300 cockpits... now do the same with the pmdg and real life photos. Nuff said

Those real A300 cockpits were brand new once. That is my point.

PMDG and others never look 100% in the sim because all aircraft in real life (even relatively new) has dirt and some degree of wear / cosmetic damage. More often than not some scratches, smudges and dust (among other crud). They are used daily - most often several times a day. I have to wonder if some people have ever seen a real life flight deck before.

As far as the JF Fokker 70/100 is concerned I am not gonna hold my breath. They keep teasing excellent looking screen shots and constantly keep saying they keep finding bugs. This thing has been in development since 2023. We are always told we are on the home stretch or very near. I think we'll see the Bluebird 757 before we see the Fokker 70/100. It is honestly becoming a bit of a joke..

3 hours ago, Harry_K said:

It is honestly becoming a bit of a joke..

If you find JF Development Practices to be so laughable perhaps this plane just ain’t for you.  YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies,

-B

36 minutes ago, btacon said:

If you find JF Development Practices to be so laughable perhaps this plane just ain’t for you.  YMMV. TANSTAAFL. Blue skies,

-B

YTPFMGFY

4 hours ago, Harry_K said:

As far as the JF Fokker 70/100 is concerned I am not gonna hold my breath. They keep teasing excellent looking screen shots and constantly keep saying they keep finding bugs. This thing has been in development since 2023. We are always told we are on the home stretch or very near. I think we'll see the Bluebird 757 before we see the Fokker 70/100. It is honestly becoming a bit of a joke..

JF has undertaken an enormous amount of work to provide free MSFS2024 upgrades to their entire FS20 range in the last 18 months. That might be responsible for the slip in the Fokker release date, don't you think? 

41 minutes ago, Harry_K said:

YTPFMGFY

Just as the plane may not be for you, this acronym is indecipherable and therefore not for me either, tho I think I may not be well pleased with its meaning LoL.  Blue skies and peace to you friend,

-B

On 5/2/2026 at 2:05 AM, Christopher Low said:

Just don't make it too dirty. Some of us do like our aircraft to be relatively clean and tidy.

I love factory clean planes.  That's how I make my paints too.  Plus native 2024 planes can get dirty anyway.  Not sure about internally but for sure externally.

7 hours ago, Harry_K said:

PMDG and others never look 100% in the sim because all aircraft in real life (even relatively new) has dirt and some degree of wear / cosmetic damage. More often than not some scratches, smudges and dust (among other crud). They are used daily - most often several times a day. I have to wonder if some people have ever seen a real life flight deck before.

As far as the JF Fokker 70/100 is concerned I am not gonna hold my breath. They keep teasing excellent looking screen shots and constantly keep saying they keep finding bugs. This thing has been in development since 2023. We are always told we are on the home stretch or very near. I think we'll see the Bluebird 757 before we see the Fokker 70/100. It is honestly becoming a bit of a joke..

How dare they want to release a product with as few bugs as possible, and HOW DARE THEY DISAPPOINT YOU!!!

😄

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

I love factory clean planes.  That's how I make my paints too.  Plus native 2024 planes can get dirty anyway.  Not sure about internally but for sure externally.

Just a thought bubble.  Some devs have a neat feature allowing you to manually adjust the "External Wear" on their aircraft.  I wonder if they could ever look at a similar feature for cockpit wear and tear.......

Jase

10 hours ago, MassiveSim32_Jase said:

Just a thought bubble.  Some devs have a neat feature allowing you to manually adjust the "External Wear" on their aircraft.  I wonder if they could ever look at a similar feature for cockpit wear and tear.......

Jase

That would be awesome!

17 hours ago, JYW said:

How dare they want to release a product with as few bugs as possible, and HOW DARE THEY DISAPPOINT YOU!!!

😄

LOL you are soooo funny.I had a bunch of friends look at your post and they agreed with me too! Well done!

Apart from your obvious attempt at humor - I do agree with you that should release with as few bugs as possible. I also agree that they shouldn't disappoint me. I have pretty much every other product they have published and I am rarely disappointed with what they put out. My only disappointment is how long this is taking. Sorry you felt the need to try and be clever in order to put me down. Try harder..

😄

20 hours ago, btacon said:

Just as the plane may not be for you, this acronym is indecipherable and therefore not for me either, tho I think I may not be well pleased with its meaning LoL.  Blue skies and peace to you friend,

-B

Well you took it well I give you that! For that I salute you. You keep saying the plane isn't for me. It is for me, that is why I am disappointed in the delays..

21 hours ago, Paul K said:

JF has undertaken an enormous amount of work to provide free MSFS2024 upgrades to their entire FS20 range in the last 18 months. That might be responsible for the slip in the Fokker release date, don't you think? 

Maybe..maybe not.I appreciate their updates..I have most of what they put out so it does benefit me. I just dont know whether they cant get the Fokker 70/100 through the door because they are busy updating their older stuff. Sounds to me they will soon need more devs if that is the case. They will never be able to release anything new because they will constantly be updating their old stuff.