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Clouds after SU5

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Flying my 3rd leg with SU5 and I must say it's the worst cloud package we have ever had during the entire MSFS20/24 enterprise, and I have it set to Ultra with highest res! Sometimes i even feel like I'm at P3D. No more overcast, a lot of pixelization. Active Sky does not help either, as it uses the same set of default textures.

What can be done about it?

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Lmao! Same thing happened with 2020’s SU5. They can’t help but downgrade the weather engine. 

Could someone verify if there are intermittent radar returns from TS activity? With this new SU5, I am not receiving accurate precipitation or CB returns, even though they can be visually identified.

 

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Opposite for me. I’ve had two great overcasts and overall good cloud placements. Also haze is in again now which makes overall scenes look much better, and even have god rays again. Not as good as pre-SU5 2020 yet, still too many infuriating steam puffs, but in no way a regression on SU4. Quite the opposite. 

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25 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Could someone verify if there are intermittent radar returns from TS activity? With this new SU5, I am not receiving accurate precipitation or CB returns, even though they can be visually identified.

 

Good point - flew into 2 OC and TS fronts with zero effect on WX radar for either PMDG and Fenix. 

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Why does almost nobody ever seem to consider that problems might be originating on their end?

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19 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Why does almost nobody ever seem to consider that problems might be originating on their end?

Right? 
 

Default weather over here and it works exactly the same as it did two weeks ago.  Great skies coming out of Hong Kong the other day. 

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20 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Why does almost nobody ever seem to consider that problems might be originating on their end?

How? 

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3 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said:

How? 

With so many different combinations of hardware, plus unknown and varied software running in the background.....

Along with the complexity of MSFS and its sensitivity to varied internet speeds, user settings, and possibly even less-than-optimal overclocks (plus who knows what else) my personal response to an issue, especially when it seems not to be almost ubiquitously widespread, is always to assume that I'm probably part of (or most of) the problem, and start from there.

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Make sure your settings aren't Auto for DLSS.  Only use Quality.  

There's some discussion about this in the SU5 thread.  Long story short, this seems to have hit a few of us, but obviously not most.  

After SU5, my clouds looked 2d, like in one of the really old versions of MSFS where a 2d cloud would rotate around you to appear 3d.  

I had to reinstall the sim to fix it.  I tried a bunch of things, but my clouds were terrible, and I had blurry terrian really close.  

This youtuber talked about it too, seemed to have the same issue.  

Nothing else changed on my system, installing SU5 seemed to just cause something to go haywire.  After a reinstall, clouds are back to having 3 dimensions.  

 

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38 minutes ago, aniiran said:

Make sure your settings aren't Auto for DLSS.  Only use Quality.  

Never used DLSS. TAA only

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This is what im seeing. 

Ignore the stupid lines.  But I think the clouds look the best they ever have.  This today near Toledo OH.

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Quite the opposite for me. I am getting very nice cloudscapes. Nice overcasts and stretched stratus clouds by msfs standards. No more the usual cumulus. Dont get me wrong though. No where near the competition still but better than SU4.

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