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Finally got my Dream Air SE finally, and ...

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After watching some Dream Air SE review videos it seem that the product is not quite finished. Bad face pad. Bad FOV. Bad design with cable box on the neck which I think would irritate me. Any hope they change this

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  • turbomax
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    I asked chatgpt to compare the Pimax Dream Air SE to my Pimax Crystal Light: Pixel count comparison Dream Air SE: 6.55 million pixels per eye Crystal Light: 8.29 million pixels per eye So the Crysta

  • TheFamilyMan
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    The SE is such a quandary for me. If they only had spent some quality time developing a really good facial interface, they have a runaway smash hit product flying off the shelves IMO. Not cheap by any

  • ryanbatc
    ryanbatc

    I guess we are now brainwashed to think a consumer GPU should be 2700 hehe. Aren't they like 4000 now? One could buy a used car for that price. Well... a junker haha!

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On 7/22/2026 at 7:05 PM, jfri said:

After watching some Dream Air SE review videos it seem that the product is not quite finished. Bad face pad. Bad FOV. Bad design with cable box on the neck which I think would irritate me. Any hope they change this

The Pimax updated Dream Air facial interface fixes both the comfort and FOV issues, at least according to youtuber MRTV. All current orders are including this update, and according to Pimax they are now sending replacements for all current owners (yay!). I agree the cable behind the neck can be troublesome for seated sim folks, but I don't find it that much of a nuisance (but that's me).

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19 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

The Pimax updated Dream Air facial interface fixes both the comfort and FOV issues, at least according to youtuber MRTV. All current orders are including this update, and according to Pimax they are now sending replacements for all current owners (yay!). I agree the cable behind the neck can be troublesome for seated sim folks, but I don't find it that much of a nuisance (but that's me).

I have also heard reports about quality issues like terrible build quality and bad optics .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTqq8rGuRf8 13:35

I think I would find a box against my neck very irritating that's me.

Have you used other VR headsets ?

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The cable in the neck is normal in real aviation, even that is simulated better haha. And I want the less possible microwaves radiation attached to the brain also, thanks.

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On 7/26/2026 at 10:37 AM, jfri said:

Have you used other VR headsets ?

I mentioned the Reverb G2 in my OP. I used it for nearly 5 years.

I imagine that youtuber has an axe to grind with Pimax about their SE. I would too if sent a somewhat defective unit, plus its badly implemented facial interface. I don't have the problems he lists (should I?), other than its bad facial interface (which will be replaced). As for the hot box on the neck: it's not touching my neck at all (plus it's only gets a little warm with the SE).

I recently installed the sboys3 driver for the Dream Air SE. It delivers really smooth MSFS 2024 performance, and its luma filter really pops the details on everything even more. Dang...I want that facial interface replacement NOW!!!

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This was published on YT about 15 minutes ago. (note: he is using only one base station, that is all that is needed if you aren't running and jumping around).

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Seems I got lucky with my SE, but I sort of agree with that video: he's been sent 2 defective units (that borked IPD is suspect IMO)...does anyone want to risk getting a defective one as well?

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21 hours ago, Fielder said:

This was published on YT about 15 minutes ago. (note: he is using only one base station, that is all that is needed if you aren't running and jumping around).

Big screen beyond is much more expensive

On 7/27/2026 at 11:37 PM, TheFamilyMan said:

I mentioned the Reverb G2 in my OP. I used it for nearly 5 years.

I imagine that youtuber has an axe to grind with Pimax about their SE. I would too if sent a somewhat defective unit, plus its badly implemented facial interface. I don't have the problems he lists (should I?), other than its bad facial interface (which will be replaced). As for the hot box on the neck: it's not touching my neck at all (plus it's only gets a little warm with the SE).

I recently installed the sboys3 driver for the Dream Air SE. It delivers really smooth MSFS 2024 performance, and its luma filter really pops the details on everything even more. Dang...I want that facial interface replacement NOW!!!

I missed that you had a reverb

Where does your cable touch ? From what I have seen it usually touch close to your shirt unless you use a mod

I still use a Reverb G1 but ponder about getting/buying a Dream Air SE as a Christmas gift. I can't imagine the Dream Air SE cable being more disturbing than the G1 cable which was close to an Elephant's trunk. Anyone made this switch?

Unfortunately, the meta quest goggles are a no-go for me because of the Facebook/Zuckerberg thingy.

Kind regards, Michael

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Yes plus a complex installation and no HDMI/DisplayPort connection. My favorite solution would be: comfort and light weight of the Beyond Be2 (with eye tracking) with Pimax's displays. Until then, enjoying my Pimax Crystal light.

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very nice.

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On 7/31/2026 at 7:36 AM, pmb said:

I still use a Reverb G1 but ponder about getting/buying a Dream Air SE as a Christmas gift. I can't imagine the Dream Air SE cable being more disturbing than the G1 cable which was close to an Elephant's trunk. Anyone made this switch?

Unfortunately, the meta quest goggles are a no-go for me because of the Facebook/Zuckerberg thingy.

Kind regards, Michael

The Dream Air SE cable is as stiff as my G2's cable.

A recent firmware update for my Dream Air SE made all head motion a blurry mess. Turns out it is now the result of having the brightness setting at 100%. This high brightness setting apparently causes an effect known at OLED motion persistence which causes motion blurring. I found that reducing brightness to 65% removes most of the motion blurring, but at the cost of a little less brightness. A slight bummer, but probably this what my SE was like before the update anyway.

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I've been using a StudioForm facial interface with my Dream Air SE for a couple of weeks. It's a fantastic upgrade, in that I can now wear my DA SE for hours without discomfort and I'm getting a 98 degree horizontal, 90 vertical FOV using TestHMD. With FOV, it's the classic YMMV for it's highly dependent on the shape of your face. There is also no light bleed. As for eye strain, I'm not noticing any excessively, i.e. no worse than my G2, and I do not notice any glare. Every time I use my DA SE, I'm am completely blown away that VR can look as good as a 4K monitor (only better since it's 3D) and that its view has near edge to edge clarity. What I'm experiencing now are how things should have been on the get-go with my DA SE, but leave it to Pimax to badly mess up a product launch.

Pimax sent me an early release of their DA SE specific "ProFit" facial interface. It indeed corrects all the glaring issues of the original interface, and it's slightly more comfortable than the StudioForm interface (at least for me) while providing the same FOV I experienced. But the filament material they used to print it wasn't totally opaque, such that the whole things glows slightly in a bright room, which one needs for accurate tracking...ugh! I hope they do better with its final version. They've been so informed about this in my feedback, which also included a scathing assessment on how they've really messed up their DA SE release.

My final assessment: the DA SE is a very nice upgrade to the G2 (essentially it blows it away) and worth serious consideration. But Pimax is still behind the curve on its QA, so it can be hit or miss at least from what I've read on reddit. I got lucky; but they are being very responsive in sending out new HMDs to replace the problematic ones.

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We need someone on these forums to do a direct comparison between the two headsets (CL, Dream Air). Blindly believing AI sometimes is not the best if finding the truth. Wish I had money to have both of them. I can't believe in some areas the CL is better than the newer Dream Air. Too bad the comfort level leaves allot to be desired considering the price. There's also a difference in performance between FS2020 and 2024 so we have to make sure we know what we're talking about here in terms of the two sims.🤔

FS2024 

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Just anecdotal evidence from me, but I started with the HP reverb G2, then Varjo Aero, then a Crystal light, then Crystal super OLED, each one was a significant improvement for me, although I also improved my PC/Graphics card spec as well along the way.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Dream Air is the same as the Super, just smaller and lighter? I generally fly an hour or so, so the extra cost just for comfort, but no visual quality, isn't worth it for me.

The only disappointment was Crystal super wide swappable engine. The lower quality to account for the extra pixels didn't really cut it for me, after all, the whole point of the VR headset is you can move your head, so I prefer the narrower field of view, with better quality. But I know for some field of view is everything. Got one going spare if someone needs it!

But every upgrade was worth it, in my opinion.

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