Jovzin

Wait so they are back at popping planes from less than 8nm ? I thought that they increased the distance at whcih we can see other planes. In SU3 it looked like they set it to MSFS20 distance which was about 25nm -> from this distance I was able to see the planes around me when in cruise and when at the gate. But I remember at the start of MSFS24 it was like 8nm.

Hi guys. My main question is. How about contrails in SU4? Can you see them from ground when waiting for PAX to board? What about contrails and models of planes ehen in cruise? Can you see them from at least 25nm+ like in Msfs20? Or still that horrible max 8nm and suddenly appearing and dissapearing of planes and contrails in front of you when in cruise? Would really loved to switch to msfs24 but that contrails and model of planes appearing from less than 8nm is a no go for me, and rather staying on msfs20 where I can see contrails/plane models from ground during PAX boarding and in cruise from cca 28nm , maybe 30nm away.

So I am quite curious. Did Asobo increase the visibility of contrails and airplanes model in SU2 beta or still not ? I have not got the time to do some more testing recently 😞 Was busy as hell in my job and around the house and garden. So no time to fly in MSFS24 at all. I wanted to do some testing during CTP on Vatsim but Real life first 😞 Anyway I am quite curious for guys that are flying CTP on Vatsim with MSFS24 and SU2 beta with AIG or FSTL model matching how it is for them ? If they see something in cruise around them or not at all. I think they should be able to see at least 10 planes maybe more around them within those 25nm as it is in MSFS20. But if MSFS24 is still the same and max distance you can see some planes and contrails when in cruise , is still those cca 5-8 miles , than I would be word not allowed. Such huge event where you should see a lot of planes around you and nothing...

Nice. From my tests visibility of strobe and nav lights with really tiny plane model was till cca 25 miles. But yeah contrails can be higher. I was mainly focusing on lights and plane model how far I can see them in Msfs20. Pitty in Msfs24 as you are writing it is simply not working.

Ok so finally somebody is noticing this too. For me this is the biggest stopper to switch to MSFS24. I am using AIG models with Just FLight models for now. Need to reinstall FSTL again. So not sure how it is with new updated FSTL models. I am flying mainly on VATSIM so my tests were in VATSIM with AIG and Just Flight model matching. But from my tests with a few other guys - base game and SU1 in MSFS2024 you will see aircrafts and thier contrials from about 8nm. On top of that what is strange is , that you will see those aircrafts with contrails for like a minute maybe and after that they will suddenly dissappear. This happen to me a few times. Like I saw plane with contrails flying from my right to left and then suddenly after a minute or mintue and half it was gone nothing in that spot anymore... When you are in ground waiting for PAX to board . You can not see a single contrail in MSFS24. Same as I wrote above. When you are in cruise. You see on ND via TCAS that there should be 3 planes around you within 20-24nm. You will check from cockpit or even from external view and well you will see nothing at all. I really hope they will fix this DRAW distance /LOD distance soon. Hope they will bring it to MSFS20 levels. From my tests in MSFS20. When you are on ground waiting for PAX to boad. You will see contrails in external view even from cockpit vies, and when you zoom in you can even see strobe and navigation lights with a tiny model of plane. Same in cruise. When you are in cruise you will can see contrails and planes ( strobes and nav lights too ) from cca 25nm away from you. Those are my testing with a few other friends. So 25nm in MSFS20 vs cca 8nm in MSFS24 is quite a jump. I have not had the time yet to test SU2. But maybe , as you are writing , that it looks like you can see them from 10nm , maybe ASOBO increased the DRAW distance. I think I saw somebody was mentioning this on Asobo forum and here on Avsim forum too that they think in SU2 they can see the planes/contrailsl a bit further.

Hmm , still nothing about Draw distance/LOD fixes. So when we will be able to see contrails and other planes from 20nm and more when in cruise? When I will see contrails when looking at sky in external view durimg PAX boarding? This is no go for me with MSFS24. I did some testing with friends and when in cruise you will see other plane and maybe contrails from less than 8nm away. In MSFS20 it is at least 20 maybe 25nm away. Hope they will fix it soon , either in SU2 or SU3 latest.

So I did not touch MSFS2024 for like a week. Today I noticed that my PC is downloading something in the background. Hate when that XBOX app is just starting on its own and doing some nasty things like downloading update in the background without me allowing it. Need to figure out how to block this kind of behaviour. It is quite strange. I have disabled Xbox app from the start up and it will still run in the background even if it set in windows to not start when PC is starting. So yeah I did not touch MSFS2024 at all and suddenly have the same issues as others. Lost community folder, lost settings, lost my settings for TCA pack. Great work Asobo. Glad that I am mostly playing the MSFS20 due to that bad LOD/DRAW distance in MSFS24. In MSFS20 I can see the planes and contrails from miles away when in cruise on VATSIM. But in MSFS24 maybe maximum I can somehow spot some contrail and planes in cruise is 8miles ?!

Hmm need to test the new version. But I think the visibility of other planes and contrails when in cruise , is issue of Msfs24 not FSTL or AIG models. It is Asobo that needs to increase draw distance of other traffic from those 8 nm or less to at least 20 nm like in Msfs20.

Yeah . But my main gripe with MSFS2024 is that I can not see the traffic aorund me in the cruise. DId you try to look around from cockpit or in external view and did you see some contrails and actual model of planes around you ? That Draw distance is terrible. I read about it on MSFS forum too, that you can not see planes around you like you do in MSFS2020 where you see contrails and model of planes 20nm + . You will see them at the very last minute like 2-4 nm max from you and even only for like 30 seconds and they will somehow disappear. So that was my main question 🙂 Thank you sir

Pitty. Maximum my Alienware can do is 600 😞

And where you able to see traffic around you when in cruise? This is main thing which I hate with MSFS24. Not able to see contrails and planes around me in 20nm radius.

Two questions 1/ Will this work with Win 10 too ? 2/ Should I enable HDR on my Alienware AW2723DF too ? I have it turned off for now. Which mode in SMART HDR on Alienware monitor ? Desktop or Movie HDR or Game HDR or the Display HDR 600 ? Thank you sir :)

I have the exact problem on Vatsim. I see planes around me when I am at the airport. As soon as I am in cruise. Not a single airplane around me. I see on traffic radar that I should see at least 2 -3 planes around me but nothing. So yeah MSFS 24 has some serious draw distance rendering of planes. Hope they will fix this. Anyway I watched review of A350 by Easysimjetpilot , A330 drier and A320 pilot. And all three had those ugly blurry textures on runway and soem of them even when in cruise below the fields and hills look terrible. I am sorry but this is somehow really not acceptable. Why in MSFS20 the runway textures are OK but MSFS24 with SU1 still blurry mess.

Hmm nobody flies on VATSIM here with MSFS24? Not seeing other traffic around me when airborne. Or seeing when I only full zoom in on place where it should be. But lightning in MSFS24 is spot on. Glad I do not need Rex atmos or editing exe file for better colours/lightning.

Wait so they decided to not do cabin for 2020 ? Really. Ffs , MSFS 2024 is barely playable for lot of us , including me. That VRAM bug will be fixed in SU2 which is around april/May. So MSFS 2024 stil not plyable for at least another 6 months. If they are so affraid of sttuters and FPS drops in 2020 with that new plane, than why not do it like FBW A380. Button in cockpit for on/off of cabin. So we can have the cabin ON during passengers boarding. Than turn it off during taxi and takeoff and climb. And turn it back on in cruise. And again turn it off for descent and landing.