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Wait so they are back at popping planes from less than 8nm ? I thought that they increased the distance at whcih we can see other planes. In SU3 it looked like they set it to MSFS20 distance which was about 25nm -> from this distance I was able to see the planes around me when in cruise and when at the gate. But I remember at the start of MSFS24 it was like 8nm.

Hi guys. My main question is. How about contrails in SU4? Can you see them from ground when waiting for PAX to board? What about contrails and models of planes ehen in cruise? Can you see them from at least 25nm+ like in Msfs20? Or still that horrible max 8nm and suddenly appearing and dissapearing of planes and contrails in front of you when in cruise? Would really loved to switch to msfs24 but that contrails and model of planes appearing from less than 8nm is a no go for me, and rather staying on msfs20 where I can see contrails/plane models from ground during PAX boarding and in cruise from cca 28nm , maybe 30nm away.

So I am quite curious. Did Asobo increase the visibility of contrails and airplanes model in SU2 beta or still not ? I have not got the time to do some more testing recently 😞 Was busy as hell in my job and around the house and garden. So no time to fly in MSFS24 at all. I wanted to do some testing during CTP on Vatsim but Real life first 😞 Anyway I am quite curious for guys that are flying CTP on Vatsim with MSFS24 and SU2 beta with AIG or FSTL model matching how it is for them ? If they see something in cruise around them or not at all. I think they should be able to see at least 10 planes maybe more around them within those 25nm as it is in MSFS20. But if MSFS24 is still the same and max distance you can see some planes and contrails when in cruise , is still those cca 5-8 miles , than I would be word not allowed. Such huge event where you should see a lot of planes around you and nothing...

Nice. From my tests visibility of strobe and nav lights with really tiny plane model was till cca 25 miles. But yeah contrails can be higher. I was mainly focusing on lights and plane model how far I can see them in Msfs20. Pitty in Msfs24 as you are writing it is simply not working.

Ok so finally somebody is noticing this too. For me this is the biggest stopper to switch to MSFS24. I am using AIG models with Just FLight models for now. Need to reinstall FSTL again. So not sure how it is with new updated FSTL models. I am flying mainly on VATSIM so my tests were in VATSIM with AIG and Just Flight model matching. But from my tests with a few other guys - base game and SU1 in MSFS2024 you will see aircrafts and thier contrials from about 8nm. On top of that what is strange is , that you will see those aircrafts with contrails for like a minute maybe and after that they will suddenly dissappear. This happen to me a few times. Like I saw plane with contrails flying from my right to left and then suddenly after a minute or mintue and half it was gone nothing in that spot anymore... When you are in ground waiting for PAX to board . You can not see a single contrail in MSFS24. Same as I wrote above. When you are in cruise. You see on ND via TCAS that there should be 3 planes around you within 20-24nm. You will check from cockpit or even from external view and well you will see nothing at all. I really hope they will fix this DRAW distance /LOD distance soon. Hope they will bring it to MSFS20 levels. From my tests in MSFS20. When you are on ground waiting for PAX to boad. You will see contrails in external view even from cockpit vies, and when you zoom in you can even see strobe and navigation lights with a tiny model of plane. Same in cruise. When you are in cruise you will can see contrails and planes ( strobes and nav lights too ) from cca 25nm away from you. Those are my testing with a few other friends. So 25nm in MSFS20 vs cca 8nm in MSFS24 is quite a jump. I have not had the time yet to test SU2. But maybe , as you are writing , that it looks like you can see them from 10nm , maybe ASOBO increased the DRAW distance. I think I saw somebody was mentioning this on Asobo forum and here on Avsim forum too that they think in SU2 they can see the planes/contrailsl a bit further.

Hmm , still nothing about Draw distance/LOD fixes. So when we will be able to see contrails and other planes from 20nm and more when in cruise? When I will see contrails when looking at sky in external view durimg PAX boarding? This is no go for me with MSFS24. I did some testing with friends and when in cruise you will see other plane and maybe contrails from less than 8nm away. In MSFS20 it is at least 20 maybe 25nm away. Hope they will fix it soon , either in SU2 or SU3 latest.

So I did not touch MSFS2024 for like a week. Today I noticed that my PC is downloading something in the background. Hate when that XBOX app is just starting on its own and doing some nasty things like downloading update in the background without me allowing it. Need to figure out how to block this kind of behaviour. It is quite strange. I have disabled Xbox app from the start up and it will still run in the background even if it set in windows to not start when PC is starting. So yeah I did not touch MSFS2024 at all and suddenly have the same issues as others. Lost community folder, lost settings, lost my settings for TCA pack. Great work Asobo. Glad that I am mostly playing the MSFS20 due to that bad LOD/DRAW distance in MSFS24. In MSFS20 I can see the planes and contrails from miles away when in cruise on VATSIM. But in MSFS24 maybe maximum I can somehow spot some contrail and planes in cruise is 8miles ?!

Hmm need to test the new version. But I think the visibility of other planes and contrails when in cruise , is issue of Msfs24 not FSTL or AIG models. It is Asobo that needs to increase draw distance of other traffic from those 8 nm or less to at least 20 nm like in Msfs20.

Yeah . But my main gripe with MSFS2024 is that I can not see the traffic aorund me in the cruise. DId you try to look around from cockpit or in external view and did you see some contrails and actual model of planes around you ? That Draw distance is terrible. I read about it on MSFS forum too, that you can not see planes around you like you do in MSFS2020 where you see contrails and model of planes 20nm + . You will see them at the very last minute like 2-4 nm max from you and even only for like 30 seconds and they will somehow disappear. So that was my main question 🙂 Thank you sir

Pitty. Maximum my Alienware can do is 600 😞

And where you able to see traffic around you when in cruise? This is main thing which I hate with MSFS24. Not able to see contrails and planes around me in 20nm radius.

Two questions 1/ Will this work with Win 10 too ? 2/ Should I enable HDR on my Alienware AW2723DF too ? I have it turned off for now. Which mode in SMART HDR on Alienware monitor ? Desktop or Movie HDR or Game HDR or the Display HDR 600 ? Thank you sir :)

I have the exact problem on Vatsim. I see planes around me when I am at the airport. As soon as I am in cruise. Not a single airplane around me. I see on traffic radar that I should see at least 2 -3 planes around me but nothing. So yeah MSFS 24 has some serious draw distance rendering of planes. Hope they will fix this. Anyway I watched review of A350 by Easysimjetpilot , A330 drier and A320 pilot. And all three had those ugly blurry textures on runway and soem of them even when in cruise below the fields and hills look terrible. I am sorry but this is somehow really not acceptable. Why in MSFS20 the runway textures are OK but MSFS24 with SU1 still blurry mess.

Hmm nobody flies on VATSIM here with MSFS24? Not seeing other traffic around me when airborne. Or seeing when I only full zoom in on place where it should be. But lightning in MSFS24 is spot on. Glad I do not need Rex atmos or editing exe file for better colours/lightning.

Wait so they decided to not do cabin for 2020 ? Really. Ffs , MSFS 2024 is barely playable for lot of us , including me. That VRAM bug will be fixed in SU2 which is around april/May. So MSFS 2024 stil not plyable for at least another 6 months. If they are so affraid of sttuters and FPS drops in 2020 with that new plane, than why not do it like FBW A380. Button in cockpit for on/off of cabin. So we can have the cabin ON during passengers boarding. Than turn it off during taxi and takeoff and climb. And turn it back on in cruise. And again turn it off for descent and landing.

I assume I need to enable HDR in Windows firts right? So I can enable it in sim too. Btw Captain are you still using Active sky in Msfs24? I am still thinking about buying it . But looks like weather in Msfs24 is better depicted than it was in Msfs20. So maybe no need fo AS in Msfs24?

Oh man 80 Euros without tax. So in my country is 19% tax so cca 95 Euros total. Sorry no. This is expensive a lot, just for a plane with two versions. I was hoping for something like Fenix price is 50 euros cca. That would be a day 1 buy for me at that price. But 95 euros sorry. This is really crazy. And on top of that , my own history with inibuilds planes. A lot of stuters and FPS dropping below 30 just with any inibuild plane. Somehow my system does not like inibuilds planes. Looks like I will need to wait for some super sale 😞 Pitty. Was really planning ot buy it on release but for 50-60 euros max not 95 Euros.

On BT so can not test. But is SU1 fixing that stupid poping in of airport parts in front of me, cca 10 meters before my front wheel ?

So to reply to you. 1/ Yeah is taht time I give to that MSFS2024 with new card. I spent whole December with MSFS 2024 and whole month I was trying to fix the issues that I thought are on my side. Which partially they were due to Graphics card with only 8Gb Vram and well Internet speed barely 50Mbit. So I must say sholw month fixing and frustrating myself what was not 100% my problem got on my nervous. So yeah yesterday that bug with lights and that great streaming of textures of the cockpit just took over my and I alt+F4. Should I not be word not allowed ? 2/ Yeah stream should not be an issue. In MSFS 2020 I did not have any issues at all. But with MSFS2024 blurry destination airport, objects suddenly popping in front of my , Buildings and trees looking like from Minecraft... 3/ Thinking about it. Starlink is quite good. I have LTE Micortik router and sim card with 100GB Data that I want to try. I have the LTE antena of O2 200 meters away from my house so planning to try it how it will work with MSFS 2024. LTE has better speeds than my 5Ghz wifi 🙂 4/ You think I did not spent time to do all the possible fixes for this sim ? Relly ? I think I wrote already that I was playing whole decembner, so I for sure changed my rolling chace to 150Gigs , doing the change priority to High in task manager every time I run the game, playing only vannila not installing any mods , using Auto FPS , watched youtube vidoes how to improve the game, read a lot of threads on Asobo forum . So I am not that guy that is here just to troll and I am not taht guy that only heard about the issues. I am actually experiencing them first hand.

Well I am thinking it might be that before I installed new GK I totally cleared all the stored textures from MSFS and from NVidia folders. Removed the cache etc. So it might be that today there will no more blurry textures in Vision Jet cockpit. But I must say I saw this first time. And it really word not allowed me off. I was flying with Vision Jet whole December in MSFS2024 and never saw this blurry texture in the cockpit. Btw I am using TAA not DLSS . I know DLSS is doing those glass cockpit a bit unreadable. But I am not using that I am using TAA. And blurry texture I mean like whole Garmin part, not just the glass texture but even the outside of the Garmin screen was one blurry texture. So it was for sure streaming issue of the texture as MSFS2024 is now streaming even the planes and cockpit of the planes.

FInally had time to test my new GK RTX 4070 TI super ( upgrade from RTX 3060ti ) . MSFS 2024 FPS are better and those 16GB VRAM is doing its work too. No more stutters at EGLL. So I fired up the Vison Jet and oh man. Landing lights still pointing to the ground or some other place, and than I saw that blurry texture for a 3 seconds on the Garmin MFD I was like fock it. ALT+F4 . So I fix one problem on my side with low VRAM and not so great GK. Now looks like I have another issue to fix the Internet speed 😞 Why they can not do it like MSFS 2020 to have planes and airports stored locally. That blurry texture on that Garmin MFS display was my last straw for me. Relly word not allowed. I know my internet is not that great as I live in village and have 50Mbit wifi from my ISP. But oh man I hate this cloud streaming and putting everything to the cloud. Than ppl with not so great internet speeds can go and fock themselves... Bcs looks like we/I will always have blurry textures somewhere, either airport or from yesterday occurence , even on the airplane cockpit...

I will need to test it. Just waiting for new card as I am updating from 3060ti to 4070ti super. So will try to bump the OLOD to 500 at least. As I really hate this popping of items in front of me.

Exactly this what you wrote. I am not sure what they are thinking . That each household/family is sitting on 1Gbit fiber connection ? I really do hope they will do it like in MSFS2020. AIrports and planes locally stored and streaming only the terrain, weather , cities and vegetation. I live in a villge next to a small town. The ppl in town have possibility to have 1Gbit fiber connections. But me in village I am happy for at leat 40-50Mbit Wifi 5GHz . Or there is starlink but I know it is quite vulnerable for some obstructions. I asked a few times my interent provider if there are plans to bring that fiber to my village which is like 5KMs from the small city. Butyeah no it is too expensive and without some EU help they will not do it .... So sorry Asobo/Microsoft but would be great if you still count that not all you customer and players of MSFS2024 have the best internet connection possible. For me data cap is not an issue. It is the speed I think. Would love to have better speed but it is not there. I would love if they can go to the MSFS2020 way and give us airports and planes to have them locally.

You mean suddenly popping in objects in front of you like 10meters? Even with olod at 200? Yeah I hate this. Never had this in 2020. But in 2024it is driving me nuts. Taxing to runway or landing and see as things / parts of airport are suddenly slowly popping in before my plane...

I wonder when they will fix that popping of objects in front of me. Really hate this the most. Can live, sometimes, that trees and buildings looks like from Minecraft, but this popping of airport parts a few meters in front of my plane is making me nuts...