Hi all, 

Simple poll: performance in 2024 - better, worse or same as 2020. 

Obviously this is highly dependent on hardware. I was hoping it would be possible to have a discussion here about settings - sim graphics, Nvidia control panel, DLSS vs TAA etc. AutoFPS? Lossless scaling? Default dynamic settings on or off? Based on what I've read so far here on Avsim, performance seems to vary wildly from stutterfest to way better than 2024. 

Me: I'm getting significantly better performance than 2020. This is especially noticeable with the Fenix aircraft + lots of addons including FSHud ATC + AIG models. 

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

Having 2024 be a DX12 only sim is killing VR.  DX11 with TAA is the best for those using headsets.😔

I didn't answer yet.  In 2024 you get better visuals for similar settings.  So I guess I'd get about the same performance but better visuals?

21 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I didn't answer yet.  In 2024 you get better visuals for similar settings.  So I guess I'd get about the same performance but better visuals?

Visuals are definitely better in terms of the lighting model, raytraced shadows etc. Despite this, I'm getting better performance. So I'm guessing they've optimized multithreading, making the sim less mainthread-limited. 

But then there's the issue of the RAM/VRAM leak? Is this still an issue? I'm not up to date on the official forums. 

Running some tests now - ILS approach rwy 13L KJFK over Manhattan with FSHud. Unfortunately, I can't get CapFrameX to do any 2024 captures... So all I've got is the RTSS overlay which luckily includes a frame time graph and real-time avg FPS + avg 1% lows and 0.2% lows. 

Another aspect: SMT / HT on or off? With AMD SMT on, all threads are being used quite well: 

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by Cpt_Piett

When it's working for me, performance is better for me in 2024 than 2020. However, currently, 2024 CTD's on me about every third time, when I pick my aircraft (does not matter which one). That said, on my machine, 2020 performs very well also. 

It's difficult for me to judge which performs better. There's still a lot of add ons that's not compatible for 2024 that performs great in 2020. I have a 12 core processor and my CPU usage might rise above 50-60% during loading but then settles around 15-20% during flying around in both sims. Since increasing ram to 64G's, both sims run smooth, but it's too early to judge performance difference (2020 has over 1500 add ons vs 2024 has maybe 120). Once more things become available for 2024 then I can make a fair comparison. But to guess I would say 2024 is performing better than 2020. Also I have core parking turned on my AMD chip which gives me more smoothness flying around and landing in dense area airports. I don't care or worry about frame rates as long as I can maintain smooth flying.

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by Bigmack

I wish we had the option to install the full game. Other than that, I love 2024

I just waited 13 minutes to load into St Barts in 2024. 

After loading and another 9 minutes it's still a blur and LOD fest. 

So my vote is... rather obvious. 

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by superspud

Unrealistic question. Performance is not FPS. It becomes multi-dimensional. There are dimensions where MSF 2024 is clearly superior.  Then there are other areas where tech advancements are well within reach and yet not embraced or adopted.  Much the same as at the time of MSFS 2020 release.  It is clearly time to embrace the overall flight sim environment's available tech and reject the NIHS (not invented here syndrome).

Greater adoption and consumer buy-in = greater consumer penetration and greater revenue.  And increased customer satisfaction. A lesson to often ignored.......

As of the last patch way better performance in 2024, better than I ever saw in 2020.  I hope it keeps up.

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by regis9

You get more for less. No need to run everything at Ultra as you would for 2020. 

In my case, the comparison is rather flawed since I set 70% of the sliders to High and 30% to ultra in MSFS 2020.

On the other hand, most of the sliders in MSFS 2024 are medium, except clouds and texture (set to high).

However, the smoothness in MSFS 2024 is a bit better than 2020, and the stability is also noticeably better. 

To me, medium settings in MSFS 2024 looks a lot better than MSFS 2020 with high to ultra settings, at least in most scenarios... a lot better.

XP-12 on the other hand is not even in the same league although nothing beats its flight dynamic/ physics.

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by History

3 hours ago, Dillon said:

Having 2024 be a DX12 only sim is killing VR.  DX11 with TAA is the best for those using headsets.😔

I'm sorry to hear that VR isn't working nicely for you, but I'm having a great time in 2024 VR. I've got the Pimax Crystal Light, and I had to turn the in app render quality down to medium which is a pretty dramatic concession to make. I also set the 90hz upscale mode and locked frames to half refresh rate, but I'm still getting solid 45 fps.

I voted better than 2020.

R9 7900X, RX 7900 XT, 64 GB, 250 Mbps.

3 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Obviously this is highly dependent on hardware.

Exactly, the poll just says (as of now) that ~60% of the users were CPU/main thread limited and ~30% were GPU limited in MSFS.

~10% have a more or less balanced system.

I was already GPU limited and FS2024 gave the final blow to my 3090. Can't wait to put my hands on a 5090...

Edited December 28, 20241 yr by MrFuzzy

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Unrealistic question. Performance is not FPS. It becomes multi-dimensional. 

I'm internet restricted as loading in scenery is slower while FPS are up. My trick is to reduce (setting it to low) the airport traffic. It removes downloading the often wierd looking aircraft models, which are occupying gates. This freeed up bandwidth for scenery. They should make some sort of priority in downloading scenery ellements. Can't be bothered by an wierdly looking A330 at an airport that never recieves widebody's, while the texture of the runway is still not loaded in. 

 

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Greater adoption and consumer buy-in = greater consumer penetration and greater revenue.  And increased customer satisfaction. A lesson to often ignored.......

I think a poll like this will also shows there is actually a silent majority that is actually enjoying the performance of MSFS24.