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Megasceneryearth

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If MegaScenery is a Spring only product, I'm curious what you observe if flying from Buffalo, NY to Boston, MA using real weather (ASX) and you purchased all of Massachusetts from MegaScenery? Would you get a winter wonderland on December 24th through NY with a Spring landscape as you view Massachusetts coming from NY? Do you get snow conditions in Mass falling on a Spring-time landscape??
Yep! A better solution is to disable megascenery by going into the scenery manager and unchecking it for those flights you want to do in winter.After all in the winter everything is covered with snow in Buffalo so you won't miss the ground detail.

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033 & 036 of Utah could be interesting. Lake Powell. Green & Colorado rivers.L.Adamson

Um. Wow. I'm looking foward to seeing Pennsylvania added but kudos for poor Florida that just never has justice done to it in default.

Maybe it's just me but some of those shots show some pretty poor graphics.Did they just lower the quality and up the quantity?I have MegaX Hawaii and it looks light years better than those shots.

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Maybe it's just me but some of those shots show some pretty poor graphics.Did they just lower the quality and up the quantity?I have MegaX Hawaii and it looks light years better than those shots.
It's all about the data source. One of the issues I see so far is that they don't tell you if you are getting 1.2 or 2.4 mp resolution scenery when you purchase it. As a consumer, you are completely in the dark, although I imagine by looking at the poor screenshot images that they have released in some areas, you might be able to figure it out. For FSX, 1.2 or better is the only way to go IMHO.

Today I purchased two titles in the Tampa area (Florida 006 and 009). Having purchased Mega Scenery X Las Vegas and Mega Scenery X Hawaii, I had high expectations from PC Aviatior. After installing the scenery I had mixed impressions. First, the areas which have the darker colors appear very realistic and are very good. I do not think the autogen works as well as it does with the Mega Scenery X titles though. Second, there are many areas that have a very light color to them and they in my opinion just do not look very good at all. The biggest thing that I am concerned with is that the dark areas and the light areas do not blend well at all. This I believe creates a visual that is very unrealistic. I have attached an image from about 1500' AGL over Clearwater which shows this. In the foreground the photoscenery appears very nice but as you look further away the color changes drastically. I suppose you can only do so much with whatever source they were using, and while I am happy to have photoscenery for the area I am considering reverting to my default of Ultimate Terrain and Ground Environment X.

Hi,I do agree with those shots. It almost looks like where the MSX ends and your default GEX begins. I purchased a couple of tiles for Washington state and although their are the dark/light areas, they are not nearly as extreme as the ones you have shown. What I do like about this offering is the night lighting, and the ability to see the actual highways. This to me was a big plus as the GEX - UTX offerings seemed to be a little too cartoonish. The more I fly, the more I notice the positive. For quite along time using FSX I got really hung up on the autogen. Now after using the satellite scenery I am beginning to enjoy it. I run it completely without autogen which also has allowed me to increase other sliders as well. Anyway, I guess beauty will always be in the eye of the beholder. :( RegardsBG

Today I purchased two titles in the Tampa area (Florida 006 and 009). Having purchased Mega Scenery X Las Vegas and Mega Scenery X Hawaii, I had high expectations from PC Aviatior. After installing the scenery I had mixed impressions. First, the areas which have the darker colors appear very realistic and are very good. I do not think the autogen works as well as it does with the Mega Scenery X titles though. Second, there are many areas that have a very light color to them and they in my opinion just do not look very good at all. The biggest thing that I am concerned with is that the dark areas and the light areas do not blend well at all. This I believe creates a visual that is very unrealistic. I have attached an image from about 1500' AGL over Clearwater which shows this. In the foreground the photoscenery appears very nice but as you look further away the color changes drastically. I suppose you can only do so much with whatever source they were using, and while I am happy to have photoscenery for the area I am considering reverting to my default of Ultimate Terrain and Ground Environment X.

I live in the Salt Lake area and I have to say, I am VERY impressed with MegasceneryEarth. I typically don't fly around VFR but this has changed everything!I brought out my Terminal Area Chart and flew several of the VFR transitions through the Class B airspace. The scenery was amazing and it was exceptionally helpful to have all the roads and VFR landmarks properly located. If the city/region you fly most often is offered, I would definitely consider the $30-$40 to buy it. I likely wouldn't buy too many locations outside of Utah as specific VFR landmarks and roads/highways are not that important to me outside of my home turf. Perhaps I'd buy Southern and Northern California, if/when they are offered.On a separate note, I love the idea of city packs where the regions that make up a city are bundled together at a lower price. Too bad I had already bought a few individual sections. I have an email into the MegaScenery team to see if I can just "upgrade" to the larger region.I hope everyone is enjoying some time off this holiday season and having a chance to get in some sim flying.

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I just downloaded 2 of the tiles, the one covering the Ft. Lauderdale area and the one covering Miami. I have wanted for so long to get good photo scenery for this area, but I have mixed feelings about these two areas that I bought so far.The parts I was disappointed with first.1. East of KFLL there are two many clouds on the ground from the satellite photos. At first I was wonderding what all these white areas on the ground were, then it dawned on me that they were clouds on the ground. :( Not to mention that it looks like visiblity was not the greatest on the day the photos were taken.2. One runway 8L and 8R at KMIA there is some texture bleed thru. When you land parts of these two runways lose the runway textures.3. The discrepancy between dark and lighter colored texture tiles doesn't look very good.4. The autogen placement is not the greatest. It's almost better if you just turn it off completely. Either way, when you get down low enough on approach the area looks really FLAT due to lack of autogen, although south Florida is flat, the default w/autogen looks better.The good.1. The night textures look really good. Even in areas where the day time looks a little bad, the night textures make up for it big time. Especially the highways/freeways. :( 2. Scenery stands up very well at high speed. I took the F-16 up and flew around at 400-500 kts at around 2000' AGL and there was no blurring of textures so that was a plus.All in all, I look at it two ways. First for a nominal fee and short wait, the scenery I got is about a 7.5 on a scale of 1 to 10. However, the night textures make it really look good if you do a lot of night flying. If the folks at GEX could make night textures that look like the ones from the MegaScenery series I would be a happy man. Second, for the low price of $8 per tile, if I d/l it and don't like it then I can just disable it and enable it for night flying, and not feel like I am out a lot of money.This is going to be a big project for the team and hopefully they will at some point get a chance to do some editing of the tiles they have published so far and make them better going forward. Now if we could only know the source they are getting the material from in advance, we could go to the source ourselves and get a better look before we buy.

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Now if we could only know the source they are getting the material from in advance, we could go to the source ourselves and get a better look before we buy.
I only know for sure for the Washington State tiles but they appear to be using the National Agriculture Imagery Program (NAIP) airphoto mosaics, which anyone can view or download free of charge. The main NAIP site is http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/apfoapp?area=h...p;topic=landing but if you Google for NAIP and the state you're interested in you'll often find specific sites with image viewers or download links (not that downloading the huge raw image files would be useful). For example, here's a site that includes such a viewer: http://www.microimages.com/geodata/StateOrtho.htmObviously, we don't know which particular year the MSE developers picked though it might be safe to assume that it would be the most recent highest resolution data available. Now, if the rely on public domain sources for their US coverage then it'll be interesting to see what the non-US products will be like, given that free or low-cost imagery outside the US is pretty much non-existent.Cheers, Holger
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Thanks for the info Holger, I will have to check that site out before I buy anymore tiles. I hope that going forward they provide updated material for the tiles they have already released as it becomes available. I know that if my first purchase had been one of the areas that looked really bad, I would have been very hesitant to buy more. I have no plans on buying full states, only cities that I fly into, out of, or around frequently, but it would be nice to get the best images possible.

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The airport runway bleed-through will probably be a continuing issue for some airports. It was a major problem with KSAN (San Diego) with the release of the SOCAL MegaScenery title. It is a problem that occurs at some airports if you are using an upgraded terrain mesh addon, like FS Genesis terrain mesh, with photoreal scenery addons around airports with elevation changes on them. Unless the MSE folks release "fixes" for the airports that are affected by higher resolution terrain mesh addons for these airports, bleed-through will continue to affect some of them. I've already experienced it at several of the Colorado airports within the Colorado photoscenery coverage, including KDEN (Denver International) and a few others around the Denver area.FalconAF

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Hi there,I only know for sure for the Washington State tiles but they appear to be using the National Agriculture Imagery Program (NAIP) airphoto mosaics, which anyone can view or download free of charge. The main NAIP site is http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/apfoapp?area=h...p;topic=landing but if you Google for NAIP and the state you're interested in you'll often find specific sites with image viewers or download links (not that downloading the huge raw image files would be useful). For example, here's a site that includes such a viewer: http://www.microimages.com/geodata/StateOrtho.htmObviously, we don't know which particular year the MSE developers picked though it might be safe to assume that it would be the most recent highest resolution data available. Now, if the rely on public domain sources for their US coverage then it'll be interesting to see what the non-US products will be like, given that free or low-cost imagery outside the US is pretty much non-existent.Cheers, Holger
It's the same imagery as the free stuff but at a higher resolution, I know this because Skydvdan and I compared the imagery from our PNW photoscenery project with the new Megascenery. They get there imagery from Airphoto USA, which is now DigitalGlobe. Airphoto has always been the source for megascenery, now that they are digitglobe I'm sure that is why Megascenery can expand outside the U.S.It's not only sharper than the free imagery but has much, much better color.I imagine the free imagery is "dumbed" down so to speak, which makes sense because the stuff you buy is very expensive ( we looked into the price when we started out PNW photoscenery ). Dan and I have all of Western Washington as photoscenery on our hard drives, but the sharpness and color of Megascenery is good enough to buy it. Sounds crazy, we already have PNW for free, well, not really free since we put a lot of work into it, but at least we can use our corrected afcads and realigned default 3D objects with the new megascenery. The imagery may be the same, but the megascenry is of a higher quality than the free imagery.Here is a comparison of our photoscenery and the new Megascenery.Our project using free imagery ( keep in mind this has been color corrected, it was much worse to begin with and had a really bad color cast ):.a2008dec24003tn4.jpg.The new Megascenery:.a2008dec24004uh9.jpg

There is nothing new or revolutionary about what PC Aviator is doing. We've been publicly developing the 1m USA wide photoscenery at FS Dreamscapes for the USA for over 1 year, having done 6 years of research work and 2 years of developing technology behind the scenes... We have done this from scratch and have been leading the way in USA and Worldwide photoscenery coverage...The cost of MegasceneryEarth's Utah is going to cost you $180 for current coverage even at the lowest price and I'd estimate anywhere between $220-260 when it's done...PCA is just copying the exact model we've been working on at FS Dreamscapes for the past two years... They've made some pretty outrageous claims the last week about revolutionary, lowest price per square mile, and a few other dubious claims. All they've been doing is copying what we've been doing at FS Dreamscapes, right down to our planned FS Genesis style pricing model, we just hadn't made any public FS community announcements about what we've been developing because we wanted to wait till the time was right for a public announcement...Just because Megascenery/PCA have made the first public announcement, doesn't mean that they were first to do this, nor does it mean that they thought up the concept... They have copied every single aspect of our business model (current and also publicly proposed on our blog, forums and website) so don't be fooled into believing their claims...All I can say is be sure you're not wasting your money on an overpriced product that is simply a reaction to a visionary company who dared to dream to cover the USA in 1m photoscenery and who will continue to lead in the area of USA wide photoscenery coverage...

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I don't care who does it, I just want some bloody photoscenery for Canada for once! Mainly the Windsor - Toronto - Quebec City corridor. :(

David V

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