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CTD V1.20 FSX MD11

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Greetings,Im sorry to report a CTD issue with the latest V1.20 of the MD11 for FSX. It has happened twice while booting into the sim from the GUI and three times when operating within the sim. All error messages reference pmdg_md11.dll . No other recent config/FSX changes. Rolled back to v1.10 and the issue went away. A relatively simple scenario will produce the CTD on my system. Stock KDAL takeoff with ASA weather. The CTD will usually occur within 5 min of takeoff if not experienced when booting in from the FSX GUI.

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I'm having CTD problems also since updating to version 1.2. It has happened five out of six times. I never had a problem with version 1.1. I will try reinstalling 1.2 tomorrow and give it another try. All five times it either crashed to desktop or froze and required a computer restart before getting off the ground from different airports.Ron Musick

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I've also had 2 CTD with the new 1.20 within FS9 and the MD-11. Just out of nowhere in the middle of the flight anywhere from 2 minutes to 15 minutes the screen goes black and a message concerning pmdg_md11.gau.Can I just reinstall the old 1.10 update over the 1.20 to rid myself of the 1.20 update so I can at least still fly until this issue is worked out?Sean Green

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Ryan, Sean and Ron,Please drop me a note at Support@precisionmanuals.com

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Ryan, Sean and Ron,Please drop me a note at Support@precisionmanuals.com
Sent the email Paul.Sean Green

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Same problem here. Sometimes while in FSX main menu with MD-11 selected in free flight mode causes FSX not to respond and then CTD.Matyas Majzik

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Just a thought - are any of you using panel states created on previous versions?I recommend you delete old panel states and recreate new ones after installing the update.Cheers,

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Hello,I installed the latest update to the fs9 version of the md-11 and got my first ever pmdg caused ctd. I am running fs9 and md-11 on a vista ultimate 32 bit system. I purchased the md-11 as soon as it was available for fs9. I have not had any problems until now. Here is what occured. I was enroute from KABQ to KELP. Route of flight was KABQ..ABQ.J13.RUTER.J86.ELP..KELP. I took off and had joined J13. I then tried to go direct to EWM. As soon as I pressed cdu lsk 1L to confirm direct to EWM, the screen went black followed by the msg that flight simulator has encountered a problem and needs to close due to pmdg_md11.gau. Ill give it another shot and see what happens.Adam

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I've had 2 CTD (well not CTD as such but FSX freezing) tonight trying to fly the same flight twice. RPLL GAMAN TELMO PDP01 (PL/88/10) RPVP. When I entered a altitude restriction of 3000 at TELMO fsx froze!

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I can report that my FSX fails to start with 1.20 MD-11 installed. It locks cold on the FSX splash screen.I may roll back to 1.10 or whatever the old version was, later when I have time to experiment...unless anyone has any suggestions...

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I just wanna put my name on the list of those with CTD's. Seems to be an FMC problem... at least that's when I get dumped -when playing with FMC.I did get one "netframe exception" notice after getting dumped (I did capture the system notice, if needed for reference).Xp324 gigs ram installednvidia 8800One other note ....I'm almost guranteed to get dumped at TNCM using the AGZ sid.Ken

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I too am getting a CTD/freeze more often with this patch. It happens when working with the FMS. I also had FSX freeze when I just selected to bring up the FMS during climb out.I can also get the FMS to force a CTD every time by doing the following (I know it's not the proper way to load the FMS, but hope it will help diagnose what is happening because it also fails during correct loading procedures):1. Load FSX and select MD-11 (for this example I am loading a flight at KPHX, runway 26)2. Bring up FMS and start to Initialize3. Enter a flight KPHX/KLAX4. Select a cruise altitude (320)5. Select a CI (50)6. Select F-PLN page7. Select KLAX8. Select STAR9. Select ILS25L and Insert10. Return to F-PLN page11. Delete first Discontinuity12. Delete KLAXSim then performs CTD with an error in PMDG_MD11.DLL. If both Discontinuities are cleared before deleting KLAX, the sim does not crash.Hope this helps in finding a solution to other CTDs caused by the FMS.Thanks,Christian

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I have been able to fly the same route that got me the ctd without a ctd several times now. I have simulated reroutes and holding and various other things in the fms with no ctd. Im not sure what went wrong on the first flight after the update. One new problem I have is sometimes the autobrakes will not disengage after landing. Ill have to do more flights to know if the brake issue is a real problem or just a one time thing.Adam

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Just to add another data point: After updating to V1.20, I'm also getting CTDs when attempting to use the FMS. I haven't yet managed to consistently recreate the problem, but if/when I do, I'll post the details here.James Butler

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I can report that my FSX fails to start with 1.20 MD-11 installed. It locks cold on the FSX splash screen.I may roll back to 1.10 or whatever the old version was, later when I have time to experiment...unless anyone has any suggestions...
On Mar 31 I reported failure of the sim to load (above). Well, last night, I resolved the issue. Or, I should say, the issue *seems* to have resolved itself--the sim can now boot, MD-11 can now load, and FMS etc. all appears to be working.Computers work in mysterious ways...

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Had another CTD last night. Was enroute RPLL to RPVM then decided to go back to RPLL, so entered RPLL as the new dest, and CTD.

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I too am getting a CTD/freeze more often with this patch. It happens when working with the FMS. I also had FSX freeze when I just selected to bring up the FMS during climb out.I can also get the FMS to force a CTD every time by doing the following (I know it's not the proper way to load the FMS, but hope it will help diagnose what is happening because it also fails during correct loading procedures):1. Load FSX and select MD-11 (for this example I am loading a flight at KPHX, runway 26)2. Bring up FMS and start to Initialize3. Enter a flight KPHX/KLAX4. Select a cruise altitude (320)5. Select a CI (50)6. Select F-PLN page7. Select KLAX8. Select STAR9. Select ILS25L and Insert10. Return to F-PLN page11. Delete first Discontinuity12. Delete KLAXSim then performs CTD with an error in PMDG_MD11.DLL. If both Discontinuities are cleared before deleting KLAX, the sim does not crash.Hope this helps in finding a solution to other CTDs caused by the FMS.Thanks,Christian
Yeah I was able to reproduce yours.-Alex

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I too have had CTD since installing latest patch for MD11. Before update i had no problems with the sim I am running a Vista 64 Bitt machine with FSX installed. After Starting FSX and loading the MD11 after about 15 miniutes preperation for flight screen freezes next CTD. This happend 3 or more times dosent matter at what airport i am at same result CTD . I then whent back to setup in FSX and un-ticked X10 preiview shut down FSX then restarted it loaded PMDG MD11 no CTD . Preped aircraft compleated short flight no problems at all. Could this be a case of MS FSX SP2 at fault again as has happend in the past ?.Norman Clemas

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Norman-Can you confirm for me that you are saying you get a CTD in v1.20.0055 when running in DX10 mode, but NOT when running in DX9?

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Norman-Can you confirm for me that you are saying you get a CTD in v1.20.0055 when running in DX10 mode, but NOT when running in DX9?
Maybe my CTD is not the same type as Norman's, but I get CTDs when running in DX9 mode (about once every 5 flights if I'm fooling around with the FMC). This didn't happen prior to 1.2

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Gents-A few thoughts and some items of note:After EVERY product release and subsequent update- we see a flurry of CTD/OOM reports hit the forum. We've yet to find that the problem is actually the MD/747 simulation- but is usually a combination of factors that are set up by the user's choices on how they use hardware/software. We have been able to work a few users through CTDs- and we're finding (once again) that the cause tends to be related to system demands. We don't have enough information to really draw firm conclusions on specific scenery or locations- but we are seeing a trend in which we think some folks are simply asking too much from their hardware.A few folks reporting CTDs are using overclocked machines that then appear to become unstable when flying a memory intensive aircraft such as the MD-11 while simultaneously using every weather/scenery add-on ever created. We're seeing similar reports that are resolved when users start paying a bit more attention to the number/types of applications running in the background while simming.Keep in mind that nearly every machine is different- but so far many of those customers who have been "solved" were really the authors of their own problem in the first place...Armen mentioned this above- but i'll bring it up again: Do NOT use saved-flights/panel states that were saved with previous versions. Those of you having CTD problems- we'd recommend that you delete any saved flights and panel states that you have- and start anew. We offer this suggestion simply in order to reduce the potential variables involved while collecting data.Let us know what types of things you are running, what scenery you have loaded, along with any other details you can provide. We'll let you know what trends we can identify from the feedback- and it may help all of us to run a bit more smoothly...

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Let us know what types of things you are running, what scenery you have loaded, along with any other details you can provide.
Q6600 (NOT overclocked), 4GB RAM, 8800GT (512MB)FSX SP2, no autogen, low clouds, low scenery, no addons except FEX, ASA and FS2CREW MD11Before 1.2 never a CTD, but since 1.2 CTD every now and then when playing around with the FMS. Also, I haven't actually even been running ASA/FS2CREW even though they are installed.Also, I shut down other processes, including AV scanning when running FSX.So its a pretty lean system, I don't think the CTD are performance related, especially as it only happens when using the FMS and not "randomly" at other times.

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Norman-Can you confirm for me that you are saying you get a CTD in v1.20.0055 when running in DX10 mode, but NOT when running in DX9?
Yes I Can confirm DX9 no problems.Norman Clemas

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Symtoms: CTD's while using the MD11X FMC.OS: Xp Home 32 updated with service pack 3Video: 8800 GTS 640 182.06Sound: X FI Extream GameCPu: E8400 on a p5n sli moboRam: 4 gigs installed -no 3gig switchUsing the onboard RAID controller with 2 drives in stripe modeAddon Airports: Fly Tamp Kai Tak, TNCM; FS Dream KORD and KFJK and Mega's HeathrowScenery: RexAirports I usually hang out at: KSFO, TMCM, KLAX, KJFK, VHHX, KSJCAirports I've been to since latest MD11 update: TNCM, VHHX, KLAX, KSFO, KSJCAirports with CTD's: TNCM and KSFONote: Almost guaranteed CTD using the ANGZ sid from rnwy 10 at TNCM. Latest CTD was at KSFO using the "no atc" GAPP sid from sfo rnwy 28L,no AI and Rex was not running. Prior to the latest update, I've only experienced similar problems with the MD11 at KJFK.Edit: I'm using AIRAC 0808Ken

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Every time I take off from PANC, just after gear up... I receive a message"fatal error" and FSX wants to restart.I had similar problems on an older computer (AMD Athlon 3800X2/WinXP Pro)I now have Q6600 (NOT overclocked as well), 4GB RAM, 8800GT (512MB), Vista(I know I know...) home premium. I still get the message like the old rig that the error message containing: ACS.dll, FSUIPC.dll and I forget the other two or three dll's.I did not have this issue on my current box until recently (2 days ago) installed the MD-11 on this rig?!

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