And me too:-)

But not me. It is true that PMDG release fantastic products, but to deify them as the only people capable of making a decent simulated A320 is, frankly, to condemn all other developers as inept, and we only have to look at some other recently released FS aircraft to know that there are several developers who are just as worthy of considerable praise.Whilst it is true that some past A320 FS attempts have not been what people might have liked, that does not mean every other developer out there is incapable of managing it, after all, PMDG haven't managed it either.Al

A320 is such a try hard aircraft it is not worth replicating by PMDG. Boeing have been the forerunners and Airbus play catch up.

why does this forum topic still exsist....there are 3developing A320s for FSX in the making at the moment!

A320 is such a try hard aircraft it is not worth replicating by PMDG. Boeing have been the forerunners and Airbus play catch up.

Huh? While we all have our favourites, there is no point in being blinded by bias. Boeing and Airbus both make great aircraft and each makes better aircraft then they would otherwise because the other is so good.

...there are 3 developing A320s for FSX in the making at the moment!

Sadly, that is not exactly true. Airsimmer dropped the ball badly. Aerosoft have announced a three month delay and it now looks like their intended product will be for beginners only, and I am not aware of any other developer that is doing an A320 that is worth considering.

Aerosoft have announced a three month delay and it now looks like their intended product will be for beginners only, and I am not aware of any other developer that is doing an A320 that is worth considering.

Go check out flightsimlabs (FSL)! After their Concorde it's obvious that they are as good as PMDG:

Go check out flightsimlabs (FSL)! After their Concorde it's obvious that they are as good as PMDG:

Sorry, I had missed their announcement. I wish them well and hope it will be a good product, but given that they announced their intention to start only two months ago, and given how long it took them to produce the Concorde, perhaps we can agree that instead of saying there are 3 others delivering right now, there is one that has just started an possibly interesting project. Given the sh1tloads of Boeings on the the market, (and the loads of sh1t Boeings on the market,) do you really think that PMDG should abandon there NGX project? Me neither. So why suggest that they shouldn't do an Airbus? The only half decent airbus on the market, (and it is still not PMDG class) is the A300 from SimCheck.

Currently, the Aerosoft A320 is a relatively 'lite' product (and is slightly delayed), but it has been mooted that it will be further enhanced as a more in depth version too at some point. FSL's effort is not much more than an announcement and a couple of mocked up Photoshop pictures at the moment, so that is a long way off completion. Airsimmer's efforts have been renewed following their less than stellar first attempt at a release, and it remains to be seen whether they pull it out of the fire.So as it stands, if FSL has the legs, they may end up making the best one, or it could be Aerosoft's later enhanced version, or even the Airsimmer one, if it pulls out of its current nosedive.With the ability to tweak things as well, by adding gauges and such, there is also the PSS one, the CLS one, the Wilco one, the default FSX A321, plus several other ones of varying quality, such as the TTTS version, and also some that are freeware. So what is not in doubt, is that anything from PMDG will have some form of competition for sales, and they will doubtless be thinking carefully about how and indeed if, to proceed with an A320, but they may come to the conclusion that there is room for their efforts.So with regard to saying the A320 is a 'try hard aircraft that is not worth replicating by PMDG', from a marketing and potential profit standpoint that may have some merit as a decision, but the A320 itself is certainly a worthy choice of subject. The A320 family is currently selling faster than the Boeing 737NG, and has been doing so for quite some time. Even before the A320 existed, going as far back as 1976, Boeing acknowledged that Airbus Industrie were serious competition, as evidenced by the fact that they approached Airbus with the proposal to create a hybrid airliner based on the A300's fuselage with a newly designed Boeing wing. It was Airbus that turned Boeing down, not the other way around. Some might be blindly convinced that EADS cannot compete, but Boeing are under no such illusion.Al

The A320 family is currently selling faster than the Boeing 737NG, and has been doing so for quite some time. Al

Where did you get that from? Airbus had a total of 228 orders (Wiki say 153 orders) for the A320 family in 09 and 17 for 2010 (Upto Apr 10) for a total of 245 orders since Jan 09.Boeing had 197 orders for the 737 in 09, with 19 cancellations for a total of 178, plus 76 orders with 5 cancellations in 10, leaving 71 active (Upto Apr 10), for a total of 249 orders since Jan 09! So as it is they are neck and neck with Airbus ahead in 09, but Boeing coming back in 2010, giving them a slight overall lead. (Going by Airbus numbers, but Airbus, unlike Boeing doesn't report cancellations on their site, so that number may be lower, which may be why the wiki number is much lower.).

Where did you get that from? Airbus had a total of 228 orders (Wiki say 153 orders) for the A320 family in 09 and 17 for 2010 (Upto Apr 10) for a total of 245 orders since Jan 09.Boeing had 197 orders for the 737 in 09, with 19 cancellations for a total of 178, plus 76 orders with 5 cancellations in 10, leaving 71 active (Upto Apr 10), for a total of 249 orders since Jan 09! So as it is they are neck and neck with Airbus ahead in 09, but Boeing coming back in 2010, giving them a slight overall lead. (Going by Airbus numbers, but Airbus, unlike Boeing doesn't report cancellations on their site, so that number may be lower, which may be why the wiki number is much lower.).

So you found a 16 month window in which it appears Beoing has 4 more orders. Was it worth the effort? Guys, can we please get past this childish "XXX is better" attitude? We are not school boys arguing whether Porsche is better then Ferrari and my dad can beat up your dad. Both are very, very good. Each manufacturer holds the other in the highest regard and each knows that they must stay at the top of their game or the other will take advantage. This benifits everybody because each is producing better planes. Have preferences, certainly, but saying that such and such is bad is simply not true and makes you look foolish.

So you found a 16 month window in which it appears Beoing has 4 more orders. Was it worth the effort? Guys, can we please get past this childish "XXX is better" attitude? We are not school boys arguing whether Porsche is better then Ferrari and my dad can beat up your dad. Both are very, very good. Each manufacturer holds the other in the highest regard and each knows that they must stay at the top of their game or the other will take advantage. This benifits everybody because each is producing better planes. Have preferences, certainly, but saying that such and such is bad is simply not true and makes you look foolish.

Yes - the current window, which I used because Al stated the sales trend was current, which you can make an argument may have been true last year, if the AirBus numbers are accurate, but that trend is moving in the other direction in 2010 by a large margin. In either case neither Airbus, or Boeing are having stellar years compared to how they did in the past, and that unfortunately for both of them doesn't seem to be improving much.

To answer the question about where I got that information, it was based on an average I did of the reports in the editorial section of Airliner World in recent months, which showed that the A320 was being churned out faster, and that is despite the fact that EADS raised its prices in April of this year for the A320 (and all their other aeroplanes too) by an average price hike of 5.8 percent.In any case, it was not intended to be a 'Boeing is better than Airbus', or 'Airbus is better than Boeing' type of comment, but was merely addressing the comment that the 'Airbus is not worth replicating by PMDG'. Personally, I prefer the B737 over the A320 too, but that's not the point either, the point is, I would never belittle the A320 simply because I happen to prefer its rival. Both of them are very good aeroplanes and either one of them is certainly worthy of being accurately reproduced in FS, since they are both so important in the airline business. I could really care less which one sells more this month, I'd just like to fly accurate simulated versions of both of them.Al

To answer the question about where I got that information, it was based on an average I did of the reports in the editorial section of Airliner World in recent months, which showed that the A320 was being churned out faster, and that is despite the fact that EADS raised its prices in April of this year for the A320 (and all their other aeroplanes too) by an average price hike of 5.8 percent.In any case, it was not intended to be a 'Boeing is better than Airbus', or 'Airbus is better than Boeing' type of comment, but was merely addressing the comment that the 'Airbus is not worth replicating by PMDG'. Personally, I prefer the B737 over the A320 too, but that's not the point either, the point is, I would never belittle the A320 simply because I happen to prefer its rival. Both of them are very good aeroplanes and either one of them is certainly worthy of being accurately reproduced in FS, since they are both so important in the airline business. I could really care less which one sells more this month, I'd just like to fly accurate simulated versions of both of them.Al

Point made, and I concur!!

PMDG are the only ones capable of doing an Airbus model. That is what we believe. We are all hoping for a PMDG announcement soon.

But of course! They make FSX models so accurately!

Just to steal a bit of what tt51d said above " I'd just like to fly accurate simulated versions of both of them" Very well put i agree.