*******,With the last (current) version of shader I lost the fps gain under heavy fog. I use the "Flying blind across the chanel" mission for testing. With previous (all sm3) version my fps are locked to 28 and never drop, with current version fps is 9-12. (ATI 5780 cat9-12). I reverted to previous version, prefer to have a few visual bugs against such a big drop. I suggest to make the all sm3 version available again.Many thanks for your work.

[When water grid show up try the following :Lower settings for WaveBumpUVScale for Shader20 MID and Shader 20 HIGH.Eg : 5.5-6.5 / 3.5-4.5The grid is default texture grid which was always there , but because the SM3 mod makes everything sharper you now see it.With lower WaveBumpUVScale values there will be more seperate reflections and therefor it will be less visible ( or not at all ).

Thank you :)I set these values to test. but no real changes<Elevation>MID</Elevation><Shader20><fWaveFresnelFactorMin>0.000</fWaveFresnelFactorMin><fWaveFresnelFactorMax>1.000</fWaveFresnelFactorMax><fSpecularPower>3.513</fSpecularPower>08:00 AM01:00 PM

Thank you for all your informations. I've always the same problem with luminous blue water at the middle of the day. My color look perfect on the morning, but become to clear after.Even with the new settings I modified the waterconstants.xml from <fSpecularPower>1</fSpecularPower> to <fSpecularPower>100</fSpecularPower> without real effects.Maybe there are some others values to modify ?Thank again for your help

>>LOL<<Great fix there Colonel. LOLThen I would assume it is not "fantastic"...... Another adjective perhaps?Mitch

Very usefull remark! :( Another one like this and you are out, for sure!

Thank you for all your informations. I've always the same problem with luminous blue water at the middle of the day. My color look perfect on the morning, but become to clear after.Even with the new settings I modified the waterconstants.xml from <fSpecularPower>1</fSpecularPower> to <fSpecularPower>100</fSpecularPower> without real effects.Maybe there are some others values to modify ?Thank again for your help

In the morning water is always darker, because the sun is lower.Your screenshots are both to bright.On page 11 I explained how to solve this , if you own REX.

Perfect :( I've don't seen it. Than you very much

Perfect :( I've don't seen it. Than you very much

One more thing ; some water themes ( read waves ) cause reflection grid to appear and others don't.Even some themes which seem alike in waves. None of these thems where developed for Shader 3, so it is experimenting.Lower settings for WaveBumpUVScale for Shader20 MID and Shader 20 HIGH can make reflection grid less visible.But for myself I preferred choosing a water theme that did not cause reflection grid to show up in the first place. If you want to try it yourself : in Program Files\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water or in Program Files 9x86)\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water you will find all 26 versions of waves.Just open the a folder, then open a Base folder and copy the files into the main Textue folder from FSX.To make that easy make 2 shortcuts on your desktop.Now you can load the textures very fast, fire up FSX and see if it is what you like.This way is much quicker than letting REX load the textures ( several minutes ).

One more thing ; some water themes ( read waves ) cause reflection grid to appear and others don't.Even some themes which seem alike in waves. None of these thems where developed for Shader 3, so it is experimenting.Lower settings for WaveBumpUVScale for Shader20 MID and Shader 20 HIGH can make reflection grid less visible.But for myself I preferred choosing a water theme that did not cause reflection grid to show up in the first place. If you want to try it yourself : in Program Files\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water or in Program Files 9x86)\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water you will find all 26 versions of waves.Just open the a folder, then open a Base folder and copy the files into the main Textue folder from FSX.To make that easy make 2 shortcuts on your desktop.Now you can load the textures very fast, fire up FSX and see if it is what you like.This way is much quicker than letting REX load the textures ( several minutes ).

Hi Gerard,Appreciate all the help you are giving us. Just to clarify, are you saying we should copy across all the OceanHeight20FieldLayer files from the corresponding Base folder?This, of course, does beg the question which folder number you currently prefer and we can all try it for starters :( Yes, I agree, REX 2.0.2009.0914 can be frustratingly slow at installing stuff and it appears to hang on completion on my system. Fortunately, the texture installation appears to complete successfully, so I'm assuming that it must have something to do with the program's exit routine clashing with something on my setup. Their new release REXPlane is way faster - seconds rather than minutes (I'm guessing REX2 has more work to do in processing each texture file). Certainly, REXPlane only (only?!) covers clouds and sky, but I can't imagine that should their future plans include the addition of taxiways, runways and airport environment that it would make that much of a difference in speed of execution. The GUI is very nice and the texture installation completes gracefully and without incident.Regards,Mike

GSaldenIt's possible to tell us what are your "Wave animation" themes in rex2 ?Maybe it could be interesting to know your settings in the Water Constants.xmlfWaveFresnelFactorMinfWaveFresnelFactorMaxfSpecularPowerfSpecularBoostfSpecularBlendfWaveBumpUVScaleIf it's possible of course :(

one thing I've found very interesting is the extreme differences in taste people have in respect to water textures. So far everything I've seen looks completely unrealistic

Hi Gerard,Appreciate all the help you are giving us. Just to clarify, are you saying we should copy across all the OceanHeight20FieldLayer files from the corresponding Base folder?This, of course, does beg the question which folder number you currently prefer and we can all try it for starters :( Yes, I agree, REX 2.0.2009.0914 can be frustratingly slow at installing stuff and it appears to hang on completion on my system. Fortunately, the texture installation appears to complete successfully, so I'm assuming that it must have something to do with the program's exit routine clashing with something on my setup. Their new release REXPlane is way faster - seconds rather than minutes (I'm guessing REX2 has more work to do in processing each texture file). Certainly, REXPlane only (only?!) covers clouds and sky, but I can't imagine that should their future plans include the addition of taxiways, runways and airport environment that it would make that much of a difference in speed of execution. The GUI is very nice and the texture installation completes gracefully and without incident.Regards,Mike

My screen goes black (except for the progress bar) when the install is going on but eventually recovers. It is a small price to pay for such a great product.The water install tip is a good idea too!jja

Great news!!I was able to clear up the dreaded "grids" by simply bumping up the level of anti-aliasing from 8xS to 16xS in nHancer.Now Bojote's mod is indeed "Fantastic", deltaflyer!! :( Uploaded with ImageShack.us

One more thing ; some water themes ( read waves ) cause reflection grid to appear and others don't.Even some themes which seem alike in waves. None of these thems where developed for Shader 3, so it is experimenting.Lower settings for WaveBumpUVScale for Shader20 MID and Shader 20 HIGH can make reflection grid less visible.But for myself I preferred choosing a water theme that did not cause reflection grid to show up in the first place. If you want to try it yourself : in Program Files\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water or in Program Files 9x86)\Real Environment Xtreme\Images\Water you will find all 26 versions of waves.Just open the a folder, then open a Base folder and copy the files into the main Textue folder from FSX.To make that easy make 2 shortcuts on your desktop.Now you can load the textures very fast, fire up FSX and see if it is what you like.This way is much quicker than letting REX load the textures ( several minutes ).

Hi Gerard, Awesome screenshot!. Please, can you tell me which are your REX2 and Shader 3 .xml tweaks needed for getting that awesome looking water? Thanks!

Hi Gerard, Awesome screenshot!. Please, can you tell me which are your REX2 and Shader 3 .xml tweaks needed for getting that awesome looking water? Thanks!

Hi Alvaro,Here you go.WaterConstants.Xml : <Shader20><fWaveFresnelFactorMin>0.475</fWaveFresnelFactorMin><fWaveFresnelFactorMax>0.588</fWaveFresnelFactorMax><fSpecularPower>53.384</fSpecularPower><fSpecularBoost>1.430</fSpecularBoost><fSpecularBlend>0.605</fSpecularBlend><fWaveBumpUVScale>6.500</fWaveBumpUVScale><fWaterBumpRotation>535.392<Elevation>MID</Elevation><Shader20><fWaveFresnelFactorMin>0.475</fWaveFresnelFactorMin><fWaveFresnelFactorMax>0.588</fWaveFresnelFactorMax><fSpecularPower>69.513</fSpecularPower><fSpecularBoost>1.435</fSpecularBoost><fSpecularBlend>0.719</fSpecularBlend><fWaveBumpUVScale>11.500</fWaveBumpUVScale><fWaterBumpRotation>534.708</<Elevation>HIGH</Elevation><Shader20><fWaveFresnelFactorMin>0.475</fWaveFresnelFactorMin><fWaveFresnelFactorMax>0.588</fWaveFresnelFactorMax><fSpecularPower>69.513</fSpecularPower><fSpecularBoost>1.450</fSpecularBoost><fSpecularBlend>0.719</fSpecularBlend><fWaveBumpUVScale>18.500</fWaveBumpUVScale><fWaterBumpRotation>532.656</Water20fhx ( ShadersHSL/Water20.fhx) : sampler Water_BumpSampler = sampler_state{Texture = (Water_BumpTexture);AddressU = Wrap;AddressV = Wrap;AddressW = Wrap;MinFilter = D3DTEXF_ANISOTROPIC;MagFilter = D3DTEXF_ANISOTROPIC;MipFilter = D3DTEXF_LINEAR;MipMapLodBias = 0;REX :Theme REX default 1Don't forget to make the Inland waters and Ocean Waters darker.1 Open REX and go to Theme Creation2 Choose Inland Water3 Set Brightness 5 stripes more to the left4 Set Contrast 1 stripe more to the left5 Save as SHADER 3 VERSION 16 Choose Inland blue water7 Set Brightness 7 stripes more to the left8 Set Contrast 1 stripe more to the left9 Save as SHADER 3 VERSION 2 Now do the same for Inland brown. For each extra variation start with the default value and then start modifying.The above principle has to be done for Ocean water too.Only when you can choose the extra color versions from the dropdown menus you will know that what you did has been done correctly. ENB series :On my system with 3 26" outside view screens Nicks version looks the best. Just try *******'version and Nick's version and choose the one you like most. ******* version comes with the SM3 packages. Nick's version can be downloaded here : Nicks ENB Bloom SettingsFSXcfg tweaks :[GRAPHICS]HIGHMEMFIX=1ALLOW_SHADER_30=1SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=9872441 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=1024[Display]TextureMaxLoad=15TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=50UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0[DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275.0]Mode=4320x900x32TriLinear=1[TERRAIN]TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=800TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1000LOD_RADIUS=4.500000You might try the following to see if sharpness improves ( if needed ) :MIN_DETAIL_TEXTURE_LEVEL=21MAX_DETAIL_TEXTURE_LEVEL=21[bufferPools]UsePools=0External Framerate Limiter:Limited to 25Good luck !

Thanks mate!, Just one question regarding ENB: which of the "ENB" you mention has to with the one mentioned here? http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=281538 Here it