Hi guys,I would like to start flying Airbus aircrafts because I have only flown Boeing jets till now. As many of know Airbus addons for FS9 (or FSX) are not at the same high level quality than Boeing stuffs. What would you buy now? I want a product that has almost every systems simulated and a very good FMC (so much limited).1. Air Simmer standard edition2. Wilco Airbus with the Eric Marciano patch3. PSS4. Overland5. Nothing of above, waiting for a better future addons (AirSimmer extended version...)I have naturally excluded from the options the Aerosoft Airbus X because it will be not available for FS9.Please give your respose. Bye.RR

Hi, just seen your votes. I must to say not sure what doing. About Wilco upgrade I have read lots of negative opinions just right here. Furthermore, I noticed an incredible frame rate impact for Wilco. I tried at my friend's home:- Seattle by flyTampa;- first test with PMDG 737NG, second with the huge PMDG 747 and last with Wilco.- same weather conditions for every test.Well, while with PMDG stuffs I got always more than 30 fps (locked to 40), with Wilco had various between 20 and 25. I don't know if two service packs available on Justflight website would increase performance but at this moment I would cut Wilco for reasons stated above.AirSimmer seems to be probably the best addons (being the newest on the market) in terms of quality of visual model, frame rate impact and so, but I am very negative about its FMC because I read it lacks in lots of features. Furthermore lots of systems are not simulated too, being a base edition. I don't know if it is convenient to spend money on that.Well, what does remain? PSS maybe merging with some more better visual models?Your second more choosen is waiting, but how many times? I would like to start flying Airbus but I would not like to do next year, but before if possible.Bye.RR

Easily the best Airbus for FS is currently the SimCheck A300-B2, but of course that's an FSX-only bird. So I would suggest that the best one for FS9 would probably be the PSS version with the Wilco and CLS ones maybe offering some merge possibilities.Al

I did (am doing) a review of the Wilco vol 1 for simflight. Really, I don't think it's as bad as people make it seem. It's not for the hard core Airbus fan, however, but it does many things right, or anyway, in a believable manner. I am by no means an Airbus pilot or engineer or whatnot, I am but a normal FS pilot. However, after all things were said and done, the Wilco was not that bad. I'll tell you what the biggest, and very serious issue is: The FDE. Something there is so utterly flawed that repairing it might take some time and right now there is no hope of somebody even attempting to repair it. Eric Marciano is not a FDE guy, he does only the systems, so it is unlikely that his upgrade will ever fix the FDE issue.However: As Eric said, and I tend to believe him, the FDE is an issue only Vol 1 has. Vol 2 doesn't have it, since it was a known issue and it was fixed for Vol 2. Vol 2 therefore is, I think, the better package to have for long haul Airbus planes, despite the fact that many people seem to hate the exterior. I myself don't see what

For me its the Wilco.PSS was good but age got into it...Must be a curse..lol... there will be still a lot of time till we see a good PMDG top level Airbus flying FSX skies. FS9 .. i have really huge doubts it will ever happen.Without the bugs Airsimmer is definately the best...Regards, M

Ok, this poll gives interesting results so far. If you go for a freeware, would you prefer IFDG or Project Airbus? Wilco is absolute the best payware addons, seeing your votes, but same votes went for "waiting", so I guess many of you are using freeware products.Thanks, bye.RR

Ok, this poll gives interesting results so far. If you go for a freeware, would you prefer IFDG or Project Airbus? Wilco is absolute the best payware addons, seeing your votes, but same votes went for "waiting", so I guess many of you are using freeware products.Thanks, bye.RR

freeware I like the Project Airbus models. :(

I use the Wilco and I hate it, at least the lack of "fly by wire" feel of it. It feels like a Boeing with the trim gone hay-wire.So I voted for "wait". I haven't even bothered installing the Wilco this last time I re-installed. Having been a true addon addict for the last three years or so, I've got tons to compare with, but sadly not a single Airbus has performed remotely close to the real thing (from what I've gathered at least), be it freeware or payware.

1. Airsimmer..HAHAHA!!!! :(

I did (am doing) a review of the Wilco vol 1 for simflight. Really, I don't think it's as bad as people make it seem. It's not for the hard core Airbus fan, however, but it does many things right, or anyway, in a believable manner.

Ben, for the love of all that is holy, the Wilco/FT bus cannot fly managed mode properly. That's like saying the PMDG 747 or the Level-D 767 are wonderful birds but they don't do VNAV properly. In essence, their Airbus is fundamentally flawed at its very core. Sure, it will take off, fly and hold altitude and when configured improperly, it will even autoland (albeit with a highly suspect flare) - but all that doesn't change the fact that it fails at its most basic requirement - flying a vertical profile.

Ben, for the love of all that is holy, the Wilco/FT bus cannot fly managed mode properly. That's like saying the PMDG 747 or the Level-D 767 are wonderful birds but they don't do VNAV properly. In essence, their Airbus is fundamentally flawed at its very core. Sure, it will take off, fly and hold altitude and when configured improperly, it will even autoland (albeit with a highly suspect flare) - but all that doesn't change the fact that it fails at its most basic requirement - flying a vertical profile.

I have never said that the Wilco Airbus is "a wonderful bird". Here is what I do say "I don't think it's as bad as people make it seem". What many people say is that the Wilco Airbus Vol 1 should be burned and dumped into a pit of hell; I simply do not agree. The discussion is a problematic one, however, because everybody has different expectations. I simply do not want to use the PSS because I hate the looks of the VC. Therefore I have to compromise on system functionality, but as soon as something better comes out I may hop over to the new offering without much thought.The VNAV issues stem from a terrible FDE flaw, not so much the system software itself. I agree it is highly frustrating. It's an issue that has been cleared for Vol 2 (so Eric Marciano says), although I must admit I have not tested that package and have hardly ever flown the planes in there. But it's true: there's no denying that the Wilco Airbus Vol 1 package has some serious issues. The biggest, by far, is this FDE issue, another one is related to following the flight plan (The A/P seems inable to turn the plane fast enough, so that, when the turn is over, it has to correct. The plane does follow the flight plan correctly, but not as perfectly as you'd wish. Eric Marciano is trying to fix this for version 2 of his upgrade). Also, the flares seem to start too late in all my tests.However, I'm not sure to what extent these issues matter to beginning and intermediate Airbus pilots. You still can have fun with these planes (or at least: I do). And this is what I wrote in my review too: It has serious issues, but it can be fun to fly. What's obvious is that this package is not for hard core Airbus fans that want the most realistic experience: the Wilco simply does not give you that.

Ok, this poll gives interesting results so far. If you go for a freeware, would you prefer IFDG or Project Airbus? Wilco is absolute the best payware addons, seeing your votes, but same votes went for "waiting", so I guess many of you are using freeware products.Thanks, bye.RR

You know guys, I have the overland airbii and don't really like them at all.I recently downloaded the freeware PA319 for FSX by Marco Fischbach and was blown away by how nicely it flew. I mean it is not a really systems type of simulation but the merged default A321 VC, the awesome external detail(wingflex) and realistic FBW controls were incredible for this little freeware 319. I downloaded the sound pack for the 319 from avsim and WOW what a great little plane! Try it, I think you guys will like it. It is now my favorite Airbus to fly into large airports because in addition to all the above, its easy on framerates!Alex C

I was curious if there is a reason why there isnt a decent airbus package out there, you know at the LDS or PMDG level? Is it a hard aircraft to model within fs9 or fsx?

If you go for a freeware, would you prefer IFDG or Project Airbus? Wilco is absolute the best payware addons, seeing your votes, but same votes went for "waiting", so I guess many of you are using freeware products

1. Project Airbus is a later and better model. There is no A321 though, so you would have to stick to iFDG.2. I'm using a FeelThere/Project Airbus merge for A319 and A320. But not very often as that hardly commpares to best addons I have. That's why I chose 'waiting'.I once bought Airsimmer (after the service pack was released) but all I can say is 'Thank you Flight1 for your refund system'. However 'waiting' rather as a choice of what you gave us in your poll, as I am not literally waiting, already having so many gorgeous non-airbus addons to fly.

Overland is the best light airbus, and CLS is the best fake light airbus and simcheck A300.