Despite the large volume of reactions, I'll pop in to give mine too.I have reviewed the CaptainSim 767 for fsxworld and liked it. It's a drop-dead gorgeous model. Possibly one of the most beautiful I have seen in FSX. However, it didn't give me the best possible performance, nor were the systems that great. Sure, all was simulated, but it was just that: another addon plane. The LDS767 does sooo much more. The systems have been very well simulated, for starters. never, ever, have the systems on that plane failed me. It simply works, without glitches that I could find. The FDE is also great. And the load of extras you get is also awesome: you can save and load panel states, which for me is a matter of utmost importance. What's more, the loading is quite instantaneous. Unlike PMDG aircraft, you do not have to sit around, waiting for several (sometimes critical) seconds before the panel state has been fully loaded. Also, you get all kinds of dialog boxes to talk to the cabin and ground crew, which I think is totally great.There is only one thing that may disappoint you on the LDS767: the VC. It's okay, but it's outdated. The entire overhead is flat. Without a doubt, CS's 767 has a far superior VC, but in all departments, I deem the LDS767 superior.Just my two cents...

i just downloaded [freeware] the VC V2 for the leveld 767, and its great, gives it a new looki actually prefer the exterior model [excluding engines and wings] to the captain sim.. To me the captain sim doesnt have the "characteristics" of the 767, its looks to sharp and pointy, the 767 is a wide bodied aircraft.the nose section of the leveld in particular is so so so much better than the captain sim

Level D. V2 VC cockpit. FS2Crew.=Perfect even after all this time.

So where is this freeware VC V2 to be found, and how is it titled? My searches here and elsewhere have failed to bring it up.Thanks,Robert

Captain Sim :)A developer of a very complex FSX addon once said that "only 2% of his costumers use the failure generator and are interested in the system depth that is necessary to get this feature running". So you have 100% arguing with "great system depth and simulation" and only rough 2 of those 100 are really using it.I know, a real simmer cares for hydraulic circuits, checks if ailerons point downwards if no pressure is applied and always verifies his virtual circuit breakers. He then goes for the exact calculation of his speed bug settings, gets lost, when ATIS told him the wrong winds and usually flies in outdated optics (VC) or even 2D.I can see two big Pros on the 767 from Level D: The FS2Crew Voice addon (which is a big one, no question) and the speed tape in the PFD (which the CS lacks of).Rest? You won't find missing pages in the FMC or none working switches in the cockpit of the CS if you use it like those 98% of simmers do. You will get very nice optics, sounds, animations which those 98% surely recognize. You also get additional models (which, of course, you have to pay for) where Level D only goes 767-300 all the time.I also like the integrated weather radar in the ND of the Captain Sim. It adds some great atmosphere.I also found the VNAV working better on the CS, while LNAV seems to be better on the Level D.I'm aware that mentioning those magic words "Level D" kicks you right into the pro level of simming whereas "Captain Sim" seems to lower you (especially in forums), but if you don't care about what others think and just go for the experience (yes, I own both addons), you'll surely recognize that some things are really overrated in case of the Level D and underestimated in the Captain Sim's.So the really essential point of it is personal choice, that's what counts.You won't fall behind Level D simmers online, you won't fail on flying SIDs and STARs, you don't loose TOPCAT support (if you want to use it), you'll find "real pilots" involved in both products, you'll see reviews where "sharp and pointy" describes the real 767 flying and other where the opposite is stated and you will find a huge amount of forums automatically! replying "Level D" ... so make up your mind and your choice.Again: The FS2Crew Voice addon is a big, big Pro towards Level D, I must admit.

V2 VC for the LevelD 767??? Where do I find it and since when is it available if I my ask.Or are you refering to the texture set by Andre Folkers....Thanx

So where is this freeware VC V2 to be found, and how is it titled? My searches here and elsewhere have failed to bring it up.Thanks,Robert

Its over in the leveld forums under member downloads it's in a thread called André Folkers VC Mod for FSX or André Folkers VC mod for FS9

Ian, thanks. I'll check it out.Robert

Its over in the leveld forums under member downloads it's in a thread called André Folkers VC Mod for FSX or André Folkers VC mod for FS9

Ah ok, that's just the different texture set I mentiomed above and that's available since years...

Captain Sim looks much, much bettter. Level D works much, much better.

Another contrarian, perhaps not surprisingly. I can't hack the graphics in the VC of the Level D -- tried it. I am one of those who would never use the failures, and just wants to fly normally in the best-looking 767 I can, and that would be Captain Sim in my opinion. Especially with McPhat cranking out freeware liveries for it. Sure, the CS 767 is a little quirky and you'll have to change a 1 to a 0 in a file to hear cockpit sounds, but it is a solid product. But if it is important to have those system failures, then you really only have one choice, and that is the Level D.

Level-D is clearly the more in depth simulation with better systems and flight dynamics.I don't own, nor will I the CS 767, but must admit that I am at the end of a rope with the Level-D and close to rolling it in the hangar for good. It doesn't play well with Windows 7, having CTD's when using the ground call button. Using a Vista UIAutomationcore.dll is supposed to fix this, but for me all it does is reduce the frequency of CTD's from 100% of the time to 10-20%...still way too much. And for anyone who owns Acceleration, we're stuck with the "bugs" of loosing FMC performance data after engine start and the engines doing a double start. LDS's solution...move backwards to FSX-SP2. Works great if I don't like using any of the Acceleration features like aircraft carriers, but I do. I also find the autothrottle doesn't play well with multi axis controllers. The option to override manual throttle movement when the A/T is on only works if I have a single axis programmed to the throttle. I'm not sure if this last point is a commonly experienced problem or just me.Like I said, LDS is the best 767 available. It's frustrating though to see what was an unrivaled simulation (I believe even better than PMDG) turn in to a second rate airplane solely because of bugs that go unfixed and inability to move forward and support the new software of flight simulation. Sure, they're supposed to be fixed after they finish the 757. But at the rate news has come out about that (i.e., almost nothing other than "really, it's still coming"), I'm not holding my breath for that anytime before we move on to the next flight simulator--which likely won't work with the 757 since MSFS is no longer running.

...Like I said, LDS is the best 767 available. It's frustrating though to see what was an unrivaled simulation (I believe even better than PMDG) turn in to a second rate airplane solely because of bugs that go unfixed and inability to move forward and support the new software of flight simulation. Sure, they're supposed to be fixed after they finish the 757. But at the rate news has come out about that (i.e., almost nothing other than "really, it's still coming"), I'm not holding my breath for that anytime before we move on to the next flight simulator--which likely won't work with the 757 since MSFS is no longer running.

I completely agree. I own both CS and LDS and I use LDS because of the SDK and the excellent systems/failures features but it's really, really starting to show its age. The bugs are really annoying and it's very sad to se the response from LDS everytime users report bugs or suggest new features ("maybe after the 757 is released"). I realize that LDS want to focus on the 757 but they've been using the 757 as an excuse for not caring about existing 767 customers for years now. If they want people to buy the 757, maybe they should show that they actually care about their customers. When the 757 is released, will they tell the 757/767 customers to keep quiet for another 5 years because they're so terribly busy with the next upcoming product? Since we're not allowed to ask questions about the 757 it could be yet another 5 years until they fix the 767 bugs for all I know. I mean come on, we can't even start the engines in the 767 correctly...

I'd like to point out that Captain Sim also does not offer a way to save and load panel states. For me these are vital, because I often don't have the time to even do a relativelt short flight of 2 hours or so. Even that is ussually cut in the middle by something. It's only the flights that last me half an hour that i can do in one go, but that's hardly a 767 flight. So if, like me, you need to get out of FS often and want to fly a 767, Level-D is the only way to go.tolip2: not start the engines correctly? I admit, I have enver used the LDS767 in FSX, my only experience with it is in FS9. But there everything worked like a charm, also starting the engines. What is apparently the problem?

tolip2: not start the engines correctly? I admit, I have enver used the LDS767 in FSX, my only experience with it is in FS9. But there everything worked like a charm, also starting the engines. What is apparently the problem?

It's an FSX Acceleration only thing. The issues are those that ESzczesniak previously mentioned, i.e. loss of FMC data and the inability to start the engines on the first attempt. While these issues aren't exactly showstoppers, they aren't the only bugs and the sad part is that they've been there since the day the Acceleration pack was released. This wasn't exactly last week.