(since it is beginning to look increasingly unlikely that PMDG will be releasing a FSX version of it's 737NG titles)...

Either you know something we don't, or you are a little misinformed. I'm genuinely interested to see why you think that's the case. Or are you just joking?

I can't help but wonder why on earth the iFly folks would want to release another 737NG title for FS2004. Why should anyone get it, particularly if they already have PMDG's 737NG and 737-800/900?

Because PMDG737, if you don't know, is converted/ported, call it whatever you want, from FS2002 to FS2004, and it's old like a pyramids of Egypt. And because we finally have a decent 737 NG, that look like real one (within cockpit), and instruments are fully functional.

(since it is beginning to look increasingly unlikely that PMDG will be releasing a FSX version of it's 737NG titles)...

You clearly don't know PMDG, ....like....at all...edit - come to think of it, you're absolutely correct, there will be no FSX version of it's (current) 737NG titles, cuz they're obsolete :(

The iFly 737 is definately on my upcoming purchase list. For a long time I hesitated to buy the PMDG thinking that it's overpriced for what it is. Now that the ifly is out and after reading some opinions, it seems that PMDG 737 is officially burried. I don't even think that a comparison between both is wise (should look like windows 7 vs windows 98!)

The iFly 737 is definately on my upcoming purchase list. For a long time I hesitated to buy the PMDG thinking that it's overpriced for what it is. Now that the ifly is out and after reading some opinions, it seems that PMDG 737 is officially burried. I don't even think that a comparison between both is wise (should look like windows 7 vs windows 98!)

It's true, I think the FS9 PMDG 737 had a good run considering how old it is. After reading the docs for the IFLY 737 I'm really impressed with what they have achieved. I don't really understand why IFLY are bothering with a FSX version, it's safe to say PMDG are going to push the boundries with the FSX version, I don't think it's even worth competing at this stage for such a young company (I don't doubt IFLYS ability to do a good job) Unless they plan on creating a poor mans FSX 737 and majorly undercut PMDG it's not gonna work out for them.Wouldn't there efforts be better placed in creating a FS9 777? I'm sure it would be one of the most popular FS aircraft out there

I don't really understand why IFLY are bothering with a FSX version, it's safe to say PMDG are going to push the boundries with the FSX version, I don't think it's even worth competing at this stage for such a young company (I don't doubt IFLYS ability to do a good job) Unless they plan on creating a poor mans FSX 737 and majorly undercut PMDG it's not gonna work out for them.Wouldn't there efforts be better placed in creating a FS9 777? I'm sure it would be one of the most popular FS aircraft out there

I must say I agree here. I don't understand why they would bother with an FSX offering competing directly with PMDG. Like you said a 777 for FS9 would be a better path and keep up the excitement around the company. On the support forums we threw around other alternatives like the 737-300 series or the 717 which has never had any attention by any developer going back to FS2000. Once developers start diving into FSX and the learning curve that requires the days of FS9 are numbered. On top of that they start releasing competing products (MD11's when we already have the PMDG MD11 for example) they end up dropping FS9 because of lack of sales. If developers listened to the mood of the community great success can be had on the FS9 side but they have to understand if a great version of the product is already in existence like the 744 don't go make another one expecting a profit. Soon FSX customers will feel the same way... I doubt once the PMDG NGX is out many customers will opt for the iFly model as well. It will be either one or the other.

I don't understand why they would bother with an FSX offering competing directly with PMDG

I hope we won't start any war in this thread. :( But, OK, I can't resist to answer you and Rob, so let's play (yes) some peaceful speculation.I personally don't see why iFly shouldn't make the FSX version. It is justified by the mere fact that competition is always good.But I can also see some other hard points:- iFly will most probably be first, so they will get a lot of those customers who are waiting for an FSX 737NG. Yes, I know, some people want PMDG. But there are also many who just want a good 737NG, whatever the name.- iFly will most probably be cheaper, a good point for many simmers who have a lot more expenses in their lives, and price competition is a part of each market, and a very good part if you ask me (heard about monopoly?)- iFly offers a 2D panel (with a WS version) too, whereas I guess PMDG have dropped this idea with their turboprop (though I may be wrong about their 737NG, if so - sorry, I just don't read about it as not being interested)- iFly 737NG is really an excellent addon and they are improving it all the time, so I see no reason for not choosing theirs- iFly have learned (and are still learning) a lot about their 737 for FS9, so they have a good ground (of knowledge) for making an FSX versionAll in all I think it is a good move for iFly and for us, customers.I don't know about you, guys, but I LOVE to have a choice. And, guys, please: don't eat me, lol! I know it's PMDG and I have three of their products, OK?

Why not?? It's a much larger market, iFly will likely beat PMDG to an earlier release date and iFly 737 is darn good. Some will hold their cash for PMDG and others will buy. Did we all see that VSD screenshot of the FSX iFly? While is a popular assumption that overall the PDMG NGX will be the better 737, I believe that in many aspects iFly will actually come out being the more feature rich and complex one.We will find out.

Guy's dont be fooled by my sig :( I want IFLY to do well and I'll be happy with whatever route they take. The fact that they released the 747-400 for free dispite the huge amount of effort put into it says a lot.I'm a huge fan of PMDG's work, I just know they are going to completey out do themselves with the NGX due to the experiance and background from developing the other products. Competition is a good thing in our community, I'm only suggesting that a good 777 for FS9 has been needed for many years now so why not take advantage?

- iFly offers a 2D panel (with a WS version) too, whereas I guess PMDG have dropped this idea with their turboprop (though I may be wrong about their 737NG, if so - sorry, I just don't read about it as not being interested)

PMDG's NGX will have 2D panel too... And YES, I agree with you : competition is GOOD. Even if I think I'll wait for PMDG's offering.

Does IFLY have updated airac from navigraph.I did not see one there.Nebojsa

Does IFLY have updated airac from navigraph.I did not see one there.

Because it has barely come out. :wink:Yes, it will bee supported from 1010.

I hope we won't start any war in this thread. :( But, OK, I can't resist to answer you and Rob, so let's play (yes) some peaceful speculation.I personally don't see why iFly shouldn't make the FSX version. It is justified by the mere fact that competition is always good.But I can also see some other hard points:- iFly will most probably be first, so they will get a lot of those customers who are waiting for an FSX 737NG. Yes, I know, some people want PMDG. But there are also many who just want a good 737NG, whatever the name.- iFly will most probably be cheaper, a good point for many simmers who have a lot more expenses in their lives, and price competition is a part of each market, and a very good part if you ask me (heard about monopoly?)- iFly offers a 2D panel (with a WS version) too, whereas I guess PMDG have dropped this idea with their turboprop (though I may be wrong about their 737NG, if so - sorry, I just don't read about it as not being interested)- iFly 737NG is really an excellent addon and they are improving it all the time, so I see no reason for not choosing theirs- iFly have learned (and are still learning) a lot about their 737 for FS9, so they have a good ground (of knowledge) for making an FSX versionAll in all I think it is a good move for iFly and for us, customers.I don't know about you, guys, but I LOVE to have a choice. And, guys, please: don't eat me, lol! I know it's PMDG and I have three of their products, OK?

These are some things to consider. The development process for planes in FSX is different than FS9 unless your doing an FS9 port over which many FSX simmers get ticked about because performance suffers. The assumption that just because the FS9 version is finished they could have the FSX version out before PMDG is questionable. To do an FSX product right you have to build it from the ground up for FSX and after that get all the bugs out. I somewhat understand developers not wanting the headache of building for both sims as FSX is a different process.The issue here where iFly could shoot themselves in the foot with the FSX version is if the 737NG isn't a native FSX add-on many FSX simmers won't buy it especially if iFly can't get their version out before PMDG. FSX add-ons offer so many bells and whistles in what a developer can do iFly would do good go native or again risk lack of sales. PMDG is going to kill them otherwise with things like full cabin, VC lighting effects, and every other feature yet discovered in the FSX cannon...

The assumption that just because the FS9 version is finished they could have the FSX version out before PMDG is questionable

Les, In my understanding of English 'could' is hardly questionable. :(

One interesting thing that I see here is the ability to compare iFly to PMDG. iFly is a very small 3 man organization that has released 1 addon before the 737. PMDG is a multimillion dollar organization that employs some of the biggest named developers in the industry. PMDG has software titles for sale through huge electronics store chains. Their CEO ran for Lt. Governor of Nevada for crying out loud. The big problem with that is when you get that big, you start to lose touch with reality. PMDG is to the point now where they snub their nose at the other software developers, and could care less about what their customer has to say. And that is where iFly breaks through. They will actually listen to the customer, and if they get something wrong, they will do everything that they can to make it right. They don't get pissy and snap at the customer and tell them that they don't know what they're talking about.