November 25, 201015 yr Hello good people of the avsim forum. I’m a frequent online pilot who loves flying the Airbus, I’m a big airbus fan, but I’m missing something in my add-ons, something advanced and hardcore. That thing, ladies and gentlemen, is a total working cockpit.What I mean about a total working cockpit is a true to life system where every little single thing works, all buttons, screens, the PA, the wx radar, the CPDLC, the printer and so forth. I mean every single thing has to work. Well I think you know what I mean, a total realistic simulation. So the big question is; does it exist on the market? Those planes I’m looking for is the A320 family and the A330-300. I really really really hope someone can help.:(- Paul
November 25, 201015 yr Commercial Member In short: nope. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
November 25, 201015 yr In short: nope. off topic I know, but who caresit says in your sig "$4200 spent on my FSX machine and still not satisfied with its performance vs. FS9" Why dont you overclock your processor to plus 4 Ghz then? I am sure you'll be a lot happier.And also FSX does not work well with SLI cards. Keithy George
November 25, 201015 yr If you would like to spend between $50,000 and $60,000 US, this company will build you a turn-key A-320 simulator.http://www.flightdecksolutions.com/ac_type.php?id=3Or you can buy the parts from them and build it yourself for a bit less.Don't forget to save several thousand for the visual system.Getting into the sim building hobby is not cheap and never will be. People don't understand that even the smallest and seemingly insignificant of items can cost quite a bit of money. Are you ready to shell out $1000 for a set of rudder pedals? $400-$500 for a radio head, $1300 for an FMC? There's about $4000 right there with multiple radio heads and a transponder and you haven't even started on the MIP or overhead. Oh, and there's that throttle thing too you have to have. That'll run around $3500 for an Airbus from another vendor.So jump in with both feet and get started.
November 25, 201015 yr Hello good people of the avsim forum. I’m a frequent online pilot who loves flying the Airbus, I’m a big airbus fan, but I’m missing something in my add-ons, something advanced and hardcore. That thing, ladies and gentlemen, is a total working cockpit.What I mean about a total working cockpit is a true to life system where every little single thing works, all buttons, screens, the PA, the wx radar, the CPDLC, the printer and so forth. I mean every single thing has to work. Well I think you know what I mean, a total realistic simulation. So the big question is; does it exist on the market? Those planes I’m looking for is the A320 family and the A330-300. I really really really hope someone can help.:(- Paul Short answer - no.DJ
November 25, 201015 yr Currently, we still don't have an accurate depiction of an Airbus in FS. The closest we came to one was with Airsimmer's Airbus for FS9...but that flopped. Aerosoft said that it will be coming out with an "advanced" version of its Airbus X, but we'll see how that goes. Jon E.
November 25, 201015 yr What's the closest thing to what he wants? I have some airbusses but most of them suck John doe
November 25, 201015 yr I have actually bought the airbus x that came out not long ago, and it was a waste of money...well, the model is really great, but not advanced as I hoped it to be...so I also look forward to an advanced version from them.The plane I fly right now, which kinda comes close to reality (about 40% close) is those from Wilco Publishing.Boeing Skunk Works, thanks for the link...buuuut, I don't wanna spend that amount of money on hardware aaaand it's way too nerdy, I just want my flying on my simple desktop computer - Paul
November 25, 201015 yr Commercial Member What's the closest thing to what he wants? I have some airbusses but most of them suckProbably dropping $350 or so for an hour in a level D sim :( off topic I know, but who caresit says in your sig "$4200 spent on my FSX machine and still not satisfied with its performance vs. FS9" Why dont you overclock your processor to plus 4 Ghz then? I am sure you'll be a lot happier.And also FSX does not work well with SLI cards. Because I don't want to void any warranties, or worse, damage my system. But I won't get into the details in this thread, belonging to a discussion on Airbus. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
November 25, 201015 yr I have actually bought the airbus x that came out not long ago, and it was a waste of money...well, the model is really great, but not advanced as I hoped it to be...so I also look forward to an advanced version from them.The plane I fly right now, which kinda comes close to reality (about 40% close) is those from Wilco Publishing.Boeing Skunk Works, thanks for the link...buuuut, I don't wanna spend that amount of money on hardware aaaand it's way too nerdy, I just want my flying on my simple desktop computer - Paul Then it won't really matter what you buy. None of it will be even remotely 'real'.
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November 25, 201015 yr off topic I know, but who caresit says in your sig "$4200 spent on my FSX machine and still not satisfied with its performance vs. FS9" Why dont you overclock your processor to plus 4 Ghz then? I am sure you'll be a lot happier.And also FSX does not work well with SLI cards. While SLI did not improve FSX it works just fine here.... Al Stiff
November 25, 201015 yr The most realistic working Airbus for FS at the moment, is currently the SimCheck A300 (with a total of two variants in the package). Of course that's not a fly by wire airliner (although Airbus did sort of make one of them a FBW version when testing the technology, but it wasn't really a production variant, so doesn't really count).The SimCheck A300 doesn't have every single system working, but it does have all the systems you'd probably want to play around with for normal flight operations, including the flight computer and INS, so although you won't be pulling circuit breakers and that sort of thing to simulate system failures, you can fly normal procedures properly and get a convincing simulation experience, because the avionics it does have are properly cross-referenced and work in a believable fashion. It has an excellent flight model too incidentally. It is possible to soup it up further to be more like upgraded modern A300s, by the addition of ISG avionics and a CS radar and FSFK ACARS if you like, but it still will not be a modern fbw-type Airbus, just a modernised A300.Thus you find yourself like a lot of us, in wanting a decent A320 to complement that excellent SimCheck A300, but as some have already answered, you'd better not hold your breath whilst waiting, because we are probably looking at more than a year (at the very least) before that's got a chance of happening. When it does, it will probably be in the form of either the Flight Sim Labs A320, or possibly the (proposed) Aerosoft upgrade to their presently available 'lite' A320.On the face of it, there is also the Airsimmer A320, but a quick search around forums and such will reveal that all is far from smooth in its development, and whilst it's not dead and is at least theoretically going to arrive in more than its present 'lite' (and somewhat problematic) format, I absolutely would not hold your breath waiting for that to transpire. I hope they sort it, but I have my doubts, and on past form it looks a bit like they might have bitten off more than they can chew in terms of promises when compared to deliveries, at least for the moment. Sadly, a familiar story where attempts to model an A320 for FS over the years are concerned, with many stillborn vapourware efforts littering the ethos.When we do get a thoroughly decent A320 for FS, even then I think your wish list might be a little on the optimistic side with regard to having absolutely 'everything' working; even PMDG and A2As FS aircraft don't have that, and most people would probably agree that those two developers are the benchmark for pushing the realism envelope.So where does that leave us right now? Present best options for a fbw Airbus are the Wilco ones, the CLS ones also have some merit, and the old (FS9) PSS version (now sold by Just Flight). Any or all of those in combination with some of the tweaks and add-ons you can get to tart them up are about the best you can currently expect unless you look at something outside of MS FS. Incidentally, the Wilco Airbus packages are also supposedly in line for a tart up in a similar vein to what Aerosoft have planned for their A320.What that means is that when we get a new A320 for FS, it will be a bit like what is presently the situation for the 737 in FS, in that we've just had the excellent iFly NGs, Ariane recently got their X2.5 NG 700ER version out, PMDG are soon to release their NG and CS have announced they have a 100/200 series on the way. So it's gone from famine to feast, and it will probably be the same for the A320 in a year or two with all those in development affairs, one of which is bound to make it all the way. I'm betting on FSL, but I've been wrong before, so take that with a pinch of salt.In the meantime, try the SimCheck, you've got nothing 'to lose' LOL - Toulouse... geddit? Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
November 25, 201015 yr Commercial Member In the meantime, try the SimCheck, you've got nothing 'to lose' LOL - Toulouse... geddit?That is AWFUL my friend But you're right about the A300, it's a wonderful simulation; a nice break from following the magenta line. <a href="http://www.flyaoamedia.com"><img src="http://angleofattack.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/aoasiggy.png"/></a> Nick Collett i5 2500k @ 4.4GHz, GTX 480, 8GB Corsair 8-8-8-24, 300GB WD Velociraptor, Corsair HX850W
November 25, 201015 yr The most realistic working Airbus for FS at the moment, is currently the SimCheck A300 (with a total of two variants in the package). Of course that's not a fly by wire airliner (although Airbus did sort of make one of them a FBW version when testing the technology, but it wasn't really a production variant, so doesn't really count) ......In the meantime, try the SimCheck, you've got nothing 'to lose' LOL - Toulouse... geddit? AlSUPER SUPER thanks my friend, great reply. I will definitely look into the simcheck one
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