February 10, 201115 yr Is the bios been updated?I have BIOS version 1253 Beta and he has the latest official one called 1204. No one else that I can find that has 1204 has this problem. We tried any number of ways to make it take something higher than 42, but no matter what higher number he types in, it reverts to 42.Kind regards,
February 10, 201115 yr I found a helpful guide but it's in spanish. Would you kindly provide a link to this guide? Best regards from RelaxX
February 10, 201115 yr Hi StephenIn most cases it is the BIOS Version which holding you back from using a higher multi. In other forums view people have same problem. Someone say that this can also be cpu related.Perheaps your mate can update the bios to the same veriosn you use.Patrick
February 10, 201115 yr Hi thereAs for Voltages, I use the one in the attachment for my SB with 2600K CPU @5GHz. Personally my max. VCore for SB is 1.52 for 24/7. According to Intel specs it is not absolutely clear if 1.52 is the max safe VCore because they say its the Range up to 1.52.Also very important are Temps. The combination of VCore and Temps is the key. I'm overclocking my systems for many years now and never had any issues. Ok, I also never had a System longer than 1-2 Years. My overclocking stations gets aprox. every 6 months new components. Thats my hobby though :Big Grin:
February 10, 201115 yr I have BIOS version 1253 Beta and he has the latest official one called 1204. No one else that I can find that has 1204 has this problem. We tried any number of ways to make it take something higher than 42, but no matter what higher number he types in, it reverts to 42.Kind regards,Is he typing in the value or using the + and - keys to increment it? Regards Howard H D Isaacs
February 10, 201115 yr Hi Corey (thanks for the mem help), or someone who can help too:)System is now up and running and stable as ever in Intel burn, Lin x, prime 95 as well as everyday use. So I am happy, still need to load FSX:( Love it so far:)I know you are on a ud5, only issue I have is on ud4 is I only have the enable option in LLC, I believe the ud5, ud7 have an addtional level of LLC to help lower v droop?My issue is on load I am at 1.38v, but idle at 1.40 in order to get it stable on load with only one level of llc to work with. Stability and temps are fine, 17-21 idle, 61 max load at4.8.Question, is there an issue running idle at 1.4v at 1.6 ghz idle as I use the turbo mult setting to get to 4.8, will that cause premature chip death or is it only high volts on load that are a issue.The only way to lower idle volts on the gig boards is with dvid settings which are off if you manually set in voltage. The dvid optiopns appear if you select auto voltage, but I can't get to 4.8 with auto voltage so no help.So is 1.40 idle bad for even the cou is not on load and running very cool at 1.6-3.4 ghz idle. Asus seem to have far better options for llc levels as well as offsets etc...:mad: Cheers to any help, Simon
February 10, 201115 yr Hi thereAs for Voltages, I use the one in the attachment for my SB with 2600K CPU @5GHz. Personally my max. VCore for SB is 1.52 for 24/7. According to Intel specs it is not absolutely clear if 1.52 is the max safe VCore because they say its the Range up to 1.52.Also very important are Temps. The combination of VCore and Temps is the key. I'm overclocking my systems for many years now and never had any issues. Ok, I also never had a System longer than 1-2 Years. My overclocking stations gets aprox. every 6 months new components. Thats my hobby though :Big Grin:The absolute max for the 980X on 0.32 architecture is 1.4V although long term performance is not guaranteed. Maybe Sandy Bridge is more robust but I dont think the Vid max is telling you that it is also the maximum permitted volts.http://download.intel.com/design/processor/datashts/323252.pdf Section 2.10 and table 2.6. Regards Howard H D Isaacs
February 10, 201115 yr Hi thereAs for Voltages, I use the one in the attachment for my SB with 2600K CPU @5GHz. Personally my max. VCore for SB is 1.52 for 24/7. According to Intel specs it is not absolutely clear if 1.52 is the max safe VCore because they say its the Range up to 1.52.Also very important are Temps. The combination of VCore and Temps is the key. I'm overclocking my systems for many years now and never had any issues. Ok, I also never had a System longer than 1-2 Years. My overclocking stations gets aprox. every 6 months new components. Thats my hobby though Hey Patrick, are you able to use easytune to get to or over 4.8? I am using the 'sturdy yet basic' gig bios, but my idle volts are too high, load is fine and cool 1.38 load at 63 degrees, idle at 1.6 gz to 3.4 ghz at a wooping 1.40v at 17-19 degrees...need 1.40 idle Vcore to get load stable 4.8 at 1.38 as i only have one option for llc on the yd4...on or off....:mad: Are high-ish idle volts bad despite very low idle requency (mostly 1.6 ghz) ? I am using the turbo mult to get to 4.8 eset c1+c3 on et.c Not sure it it if volts period that are bad for the cpu or only volts when pushed at load? Seems crazy to have 1.4v at idle at 1.6? Simon
February 10, 201115 yr I try to be stable on OCCT at 48 x100, but I must set 1.40V..... OCCt is running and I'm waiting.I hope the system will be stable in OCCT for about 20min, and then more...I see that my Core Voltage goes up to 1.43V !but intel limitation is at 1.52V, so I am Ok Florian
February 10, 201115 yr From Wikipedia: Advanced Vector Extensions (AVX) is an extension to the x86 instruction set architecture for microprocessors from Intel and AMD proposed by Intel in March 2008.More: http://en.wikipedia....ctor_ExtensionsYou need Windows 7 SP1 to use AVX.Should Windows 7 SP1 and AVX be avoided for a good FSX platform? Best regards from RelaxX
February 10, 201115 yr Author I know you are on a ud5, only issue I have is on ud4 is I only have the enable option in LLC, I believe the ud5, ud7 have an addtional level of LLC to help lower v droop?My issue is on load I am at 1.38v, but idle at 1.40 in order to get it stable on load with only one level of llc to work with.Question, is there an issue running idle at 1.4v at 1.6 ghz idle as I use the turbo mult setting to get to 4.8, will that cause premature chip death or is it only high volts on load that are a issue.The only way to lower idle volts on the gig boards is with dvid settings which are off if you manually set in voltage. The dvid optiopns appear if you select auto voltage, but I can't get to 4.8 with auto voltage so no help.So is 1.40 idle bad for even the cou is not on load and running very cool at 1.6-3.4 ghz idle. Asus seem to have far better options for llc levels as well as offsets etc...:mad: Cheers to any help,I'm not too worried about the voltage at idle as I figure the system is running so much cooler anyway. Besides, Intel did state 1.52v themselves, people have called them to confirm it, and even a reputable source (at least I consider him to be reputable) has claimed that these chips were indeed designed for higher voltages. I have my own theory as to why a smaller fabrication process could result in higher allowable voltages, but I won't bother to share it here as it's probably completely ignorant. Anyway, we'll see after a year or two has passed, but I'm planning on being on 22nm at that point anyway (assuming they have much more to offer).Have you tried updating your bios to see if they come with more LLC options? I wouldn't really fret over it, though, as it seems idle stability has been more of the issue for some of us anyway. I agree the Asus boards seem to have more options, but I'm also reading a lot more people having problems with the Asus boards (perhaps inflated because so many more bought Asus, though). Corey Meeks FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W
February 10, 201115 yr Thanks Corey; I agree with you re high voltage idle...have no idea:) I guess, this PC is mainly only used for FSX, so not much idle use planned:)Agreed, stability has been great on this, better than my old asus p6 t se 2, so I am happy never a freeze or lock up, only while getting through the stability process I got BSOD:) True that, more Asus boards out there, so maybe the same issues accross all:)Thanks for your post on overclock.net btw re alt f12 process to re-save the back-up bios, great tip that was a PAIN in the A__ at first as any failed oc would result in good old f3!!! Much better, both bios' are on f7h and have no problems, still no further llc optionsthough, if we go through this p67 recall I may try and get a ud5 or 7, out of it:) Cheers for your help.If anyone one wants to share any knowledge on idle voltages that would help, or I maybe making mountains out of molehills:) Simon
February 11, 201115 yr Hello Everyone,I would like to pick your brains please. I will try to simplify the symptoms of a problem. Jim (Firehawk44) and I have been trying to set his BIOS to run 4.8 GHZ the same way mine is. We have exactly the same CPU, MB, and RAM (except I have 8g and he has 4g. Everything can be set the same, 100 BCLK, RAM settings, 1.38v core etc., but when we go to change his multiplier from auto to 48, it will only allow 42, so 4.2GHz is as far as it will go. Everything else is exact! Do you have any ideas as to why this would be? Is it the TPU switch or what? Very mystifying! What would make the BIOS disallow him to put any number higher than 42?Kind regards,Thanks Steven for your help. Problem fixed. Just returned from Micro Center with a new CPU (ugh! long drive, in rush hour, in unfamiliar territory, and in the dark but my DroidX GPS showed the way). Unbelievably, Best Buy doesn't sell them so I had to take the long drive to Micro Center. CPU was much, much cheaper than the one from Amazon.com - $279. Micro Center is a major toy store for adults and I might have to sell my house and move closer... :Just Kidding: Signature updated to show latest OC. Your settings were perfect and, after a good nights rest, I will see what happens at 5GHz but I'm more than happy at the current settings if they remain stable. You're right. This Sandy Bridge CPU/MB are so simple to OC -- well, simple once you have the right settings.Thank you again for taking your valuable time getting on the phone and helping me set up my new system. You did a lot of research in the background for me too. That was more than generous. It's people like you who make the AVSIM community and forums so great. I know exactly where I'm going if and when I have another problem.Thanks to everyone else who offered suggestions to fix my problem. Greatly appreciated!Best regards,Jim
February 11, 201115 yr Well guys. My first computer build is off to a tough start. I attempted to boot for the first time today, and got:Chassis Intrude! Please check your systemCPU Fan Error!Fatal Error... System HaltedI was able to go into the settings by pressing f1. Noticed the CPU temp was around 58-64. Doesn't sound good at idle. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
February 11, 201115 yr Author Well guys. My first computer build is off to a tough start. I attempted to boot for the first time today, and got:Chassis Intrude! Please check your systemCPU Fan Error!Fatal Error... System HaltedI was able to go into the settings by pressing f1. Noticed the CPU temp was around 58-64. Doesn't sound good at idle. Any help would be appreciated. ThanksPlug the fan/fans into the "CPU_FAN" header and the pump into the "CHA_FAN1" header? Make sure the fan header for the pump is running at full power. Corey Meeks FS2020 | AMD 7800X3D | ASUS ProArt 4080 Super | ASUS B650E-I Mini ITX | 2x32Gb DDR5-6000 CL32 | DELL 38" U3818DW (3840x1600) | FormD T1 | Thermalright AXP90-47 | Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000W
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