Absolutely love this plane and its performance but.........................

 

the VC graphics are a little too "clean and perfect" for my liking. Would love some immersive "wear and tear" on future aircraft.

Something more on EAS, CAS TAS IAS...

 

http://cours-de-math.eu/ifr-training/simulateur-de-vol-aux-instruments.php

 

and particularly here, with a simple exercise:

 

http://aviation.cours-de-math.eu/ATPL-081-POF/flight-mechanics-2.php

Hi Guys,

 

Just adding that I have just bought the new dual package of The Duke, and Rob was a great help in installing the product, very understanding and helpful, due to my incompetance, and when I got to fly it, brilliant!

 

Thanks to Rob and Realair!

 

Mal Walsh UK....

Absolutely love this plane and its performance but.........................

 

the VC graphics are a little too "clean and perfect" for my liking. Would love some immersive "wear and tear" on future aircraft.

 

Having just spent over $1 Million on the Turbine engine update, and the corresponding Instrument Panel Update, it had been be SPOTLESSLY  CLEAN and PERFECT !!

 

Looks very REAL WORLD to me, as "expected"

 

IMHO, the Duke Turbine's VC Instrument Panel is by far, the most realistic looking FSX GA panel out there.

 

Note: 

When evaluating a FSX VC panel,  you should NOT be comparing it with a "PHOTO"  of the real Panel.  Instead, it should be compared with what your HUMAN EYE would see, when sitting in the real world plane.

 

The human eye adapts to a very wide dynamic range of light levels  --  ie  you can still read a real world panel out of the corner of your eye, when looking out into the bright sky  ..      Try this with a CAMERA's View  !!  You only have to look at typical videos taken from a plane's cockpit  to see  that a Camera (Photo), cannot deal with both dark and bright areas, at the same time,

 

Your PC's Monitor, also has a very limited dynamic range, and therefore, for a scene like a cockpit to look "Realistic" to the eye, it has to be rendered such that it looks like what your eye's high dynamic range vision would see.

 

BIG DIFFERENCE.  -- think about it.

 

 

Your PC's Monitor, also has a very limited dynamic range, and therefore, for a scene like a cockpit to look "Realistic" to the eye, it has to be rendered such that it looks like what your eye's high dynamic range vision would see.

 

I'm not sure if this is exactly what Geoff is getting at, but I will add this - the cockpit lighting (and by this I mean the quality of the panel visibility/readability under a wide range of outside lighting conditions) in my RealAir planes is second to none.  I have a few planes with VERY well done VC's that suffer from either poor night-lighting, poor dusk lighting, or poor lighting when flying into the sun.  By contrast, both the Dukes and the Legacy absolutely excel in lighting under all conditions.

 

I would also say that my RealAir planes are unsurpassed in the quality and readability of the instrumentation itself - again in all lighting conditions. 

 

I may have a couple of other VC's that give me a little bit more of the "I can almost smell the avgas" feel, but RealAir's planes are still very good in this regard and there are none that are better in regards to lighting and instrument quality/readability.

 

Scott

If it were socially acceptable I would ensconce myself in Realair.

I remember flying the Scout for FS9, and what a difference the VC was compared to many at the time.  It was one of the first to have '3D' gauges, that responded to changing flight dynamics with a certain 'fluid' movement that I had never seen before.   It was one of the first planes I flew that I felt I was 'there'.  Even the FSX Scout being 6 years old still holds up pretty well to the latest greatest VCs out there.

 

As far as cockpit 'cleanliness', if it is a working airplane I can understand seeing grime, wear and tear...etc.  I consider rental and flight school GAs to be 'working airplanes'.   If it is a private owner GA plane, one potentially owned by me in some alternate reality, I can tell you right now, a real GA version of that addon would be spotless. 

Each to his own my friends. This VC is simply too clean and nice. I am not comparing to photo's. I am comparing to other VC's who use wear and tear graphics to add some visual immersion. Just my preference but I respect yours totally. Wouldn't the world be boring if we were all the same!

Easily the most flown in my hangar are both of the RealAir Dukes. I have plenty of competition in there too. Superb job all around. This add-on should be considered a required purchase for all. Thank you RealAir and thank you again!

 

As far as cockpit 'cleanliness', if it is a working airplane I can understand seeing grime, wear and tear...etc.  I consider rental and flight school GAs to be 'working airplanes'.   If it is a private owner GA plane, one potentially owned by me in some alternate reality, I can tell you right now, a real GA version of that addon would be spotless. 

 

EXACTLY   -- You are not going to find a "Duke Turbine"  for rental at your local flight school.   Those that own them, having paid over $1 Million for the pleasure, (not to mention the running cost), are going to keep them in immaculate, gleaming  condition.     :cool:

EXACTLY - I prefer a hired one not a private one.

Each to his own my friends. This VC is simply too clean and nice. I am not comparing to photo's. I am comparing to other VC's who use wear and tear graphics to add some visual immersion. Just my preference but I respect yours totally. Wouldn't the world be boring if we were all the same!

 

Before release we gathered together as many photos of Dukes we could get our hands on. Because they are now so treasured by their owners, almost every shot we saw presented a cockpit that was immaculate. In the case of the very expensive Turbine conversions, even more so. But even if that were not the case, we aren't that interested in putting scuff marks here and there for the sake of what is regarded as "authentic". It is in fact much much more difficult to present a clear, well-lit, functional, accurate panel for long-term use, and the vast majority of our customers place that way above the odd scratch or blemish, although if you look beyond the veneer you will see subtle evidence of fingerprints, stains, scratches and all sorts of blemishes, but they are subtle rather than blindingly (some might say clumsily) obvious.

 

Of course, when it comes to designing sim versions of aircraft that have a real-world incidence of beaten-up old versions, then we would oblige, because that really is authentic. But where the Dukes are concerned, they are somewhat similar to a vintage car rally or exhibition where every exhibit is beautifully presented. That doesn't make them "clean and nice" for the sake of it. They merely reflect pride of ownership in something special.

 

If you don't care for panels unless they are festooned with scuff marks then that's your preference. Our customers tell us they like the trouble we've taken, including updates and service packs, to evolve an aircraft they feel they can use for the long-term and crucial to that is the usefulness of the panel and its clarity, unmatched gauge smoothness and extremely flexible views. To us these are the most desirable qualities

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

Easily the most flown in my hangar are both of the RealAir Dukes. I have plenty of competition in there too. Superb job all around. This add-on should be considered a required purchase for all. Thank you RealAir and thank you again!

 

That's most kind of you. Our output is designed to last!

 

Best Wishes,

 

Rob - RealAir

EXACTLY - I prefer a hired one not a private one.

 

Well, if you can tell me where I can "Hire/Rent" a "Duke Turbine"  that I am allowed to fly (assuming I am type certified), I would be Most Surprised.  :dance:

to each their own is very true, this is a free simulation and you can make it your own flying world. Unlike the heavily regulated world of real flying...there is no FAA/CAA or airplane noise lawyers and there are no rules in FS :lol: That's what makes it so great....no rules, other than the virtual laws of physics B) I fly happily fly PMDG tubeliners with unusual liveries to places that tubes normally don't fly....its fun!

 

 

That being said, Rob and Sean happen to do a vintage car for a future project...and if they visited an actual example for recording/research purposes that the owner of such a rare car would respond kindly if Rob asked to see a scuffed up interior?

 

something like "Hey you with the vintage Jaguar E type....put some nicks in the leather and scratch up the dashboard, then put some old beer cans crumpled on the floor...no?! ok...put down the tire iron, we were just kidding" :lol: That being said I would be happy to fly a RealAir 172 that looks like a beatup rental clunker. :biggrin:

I have to jump in here and agree.  The Turbine Duke is beautiful and both of the Dukes have become "must haves" to any serious hobbyist.