June 6, 201114 yr I've searched the forum and didn't find a definitive answer, nor do I expect one with the current phase of the product. I'll ask anyway:I'm curious how trim will be implemented in the NGX. As the developers are aware, in the real aircraft a short press of the trim button/paddle on the yoke will give you a burst of trim wheel movement. The trim wheel moves with a weight or momentum and makes a delightful sound. I'm also pretty sure trim behavior changes with a few other factors. How realistic will the sound/visual/etc. be? ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
June 6, 201114 yr Trim sounds are still being worked on - we're trying to make the most realistic implementation of trim sound that's been done. Different sounds depending on the speed/length of the trim motions... more complicated than you'd think to get it to work right. The NG actually has multiple trim rates depending on airspeed, flaps up/down etc as well as how long you hold the paddle switch on the yoke down - trying to get that all in there.
June 6, 201114 yr Commercial Member Fully modelled including the exact rates of trim motion per-second which varies based on the phase of flight. People are going to report the trim as a "bug" for sure because virtually every other FS airliner in existence trims waaaaay too fast. (this includes our own previous ones) Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
June 6, 201114 yr If you get the trim working right on an FS airliner, that'd would be a godsend for simmers, since it would set the bar for every other developer that hasn't! Dodgy trim in FS aeroplanes is one of my personal pet annoyances.That bit about people reporting it as a bug or complaining about it made me laugh Ryan, I'm sure you PMDG guys will remember better than anyone else the number of complaints there were from owners of the first PMDG 737 when people couldn't get one of the engines going because of not knowing how the bleed air worked, so I hope you are ready for a raft of complaints based on similar misconceptions. :( Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 6, 201114 yr Commercial Member So much so that there's going to be a "These are not bugs!" section of the manual lol... Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
June 6, 201114 yr So Ryan, when they report it as a 'bug', it actually technically isn't a bug and you will tell them that is what happens on the real aircraft right?Awesome!! :( :) Best Regards, Tristan Marchent - UK fATPL(A) - EMB 195 First Officer System: Intel i7-6700k Skylake CPU, 4 Cores (4.0-4.2GHz, Overlocked 20%), Asus Z170 PRO GAMING MBO, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 8GB, Corsair Hydro H80i V2 CPU Cooler, Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit (512GB M.2 PCIe SSD), Prepar3D V4.5 (1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD), 4TB SSHD Hybrid Drive, EVGA GQ 80 PLUS Gold 850W Modular PSU
June 6, 201114 yr So much so that there's going to be a "These are not bugs!" section of the manual lol...Of course there's a fatal flaw in that plan; you'd have to convince people to actually RTFM, and I'm not sure even PMDG can pull that one off, in spite of what PMDG actually is an abbreviation of :( Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 6, 201114 yr Commercial Member Al-One advantage we will have on the NGX is that simmers have become quite a bit more savvy on large aircraft systems and operation- and as such there is a greater pool of expertise from which new simmers can obtain help. The NGX is inherently an easy airplane to operate, and we have a rather significant list of "cool mini features" in the NGX that I think you guys will enjoy reading and then recognizing the behaviors in the simulator...If it matters, some of these behaviors have even caught a few of our highly NG experienced pilots by surprise.We'll help you guys identify true behaviors from logical problems/bugs, and then you guys will help us help others simply by chiming in and repeating knowledge.Example: When you shut down an engine during taxi in, most users will expect to see the hydraulic low pressure light illuminate for the engine driven pump... But sometimes this light won't come until a period of time after the engine shuts down. Our introduction document will explain WHY this is- and when someone new comes to the forum and asks about it- someone here (one of us, or one of you guys) will be able to help him out.That is how this community came to be so savvy in the first place! Robert S. Randazzo PLEASE NOTE THAT PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at: http://forum.pmdg.com
June 6, 201114 yr Fully modelled including the exact rates of trim motion per-second which varies based on the phase of flight. People are going to report the trim as a "bug" for sure because virtually every other FS airliner in existence trims waaaaay too fast. (this includes our own previous ones)Thank you thank youToday i always have problem with trim in fsx because i over trim very often so this might solve the problem for me.Jiri SekerkaOf course there's a fatal flaw in that plan; you'd have to convince people to actually RTFM, and I'm not sure even PMDG can pull that one off, in spite of what PMDG actually is an abbreviation of :( Aljust to make sure RTFM stands for: Read The Fu...g Manual? Jiri Sekerka Jiri Sekerka
June 6, 201114 yr just to make sure RTFM stands for: Read The Fu...g Manual? Jiri SekerkaYes, unfortunately that is what it means. Eric Vander Pilot and Controller Boston Virtual ATC KATL - The plural form of cow. KORD - Something you put in a power socket. UNIT - Something of measure My 747 Fuel Calculator
June 6, 201114 yr Example: When you shut down an engine during taxi in, most users will expect to see the hydraulic low pressure light illuminate for the engine driven pump... But sometimes this light won't come until a period of time after the engine shuts down. Our introduction document will explain WHY this is- and when someone new comes to the forum and asks about it- someone here (one of us, or one of you guys) will be able to help him out.Maybe reading too much into his words, but i think i just saw something that i've been wanted to hear for a LONG LONG time Kristoff Ottar-Spencer
June 6, 201114 yr Al-One advantage we will have on the NGX is that simmers have become quite a bit more savvy on large aircraft systems and operation- and as such there is a greater pool of expertise from which new simmers can obtain help. The NGX is inherently an easy airplane to operate, and we have a rather significant list of "cool mini features" in the NGX that I think you guys will enjoy reading and then recognizing the behaviors in the simulator...If it matters, some of these behaviors have even caught a few of our highly NG experienced pilots by surprise.We'll help you guys identify true behaviors from logical problems/bugs, and then you guys will help us help others simply by chiming in and repeating knowledge.Example: When you shut down an engine during taxi in, most users will expect to see the hydraulic low pressure light illuminate for the engine driven pump... But sometimes this light won't come until a period of time after the engine shuts down. Our introduction document will explain WHY this is- and when someone new comes to the forum and asks about it- someone here (one of us, or one of you guys) will be able to help him out.That is how this community came to be so savvy in the first place!WHAT? It shouldn't do that! Change that back Robert! (just kidding)JackColwill
June 6, 201114 yr Author Thanks for the replies, everyone! I've hoped for a developer to model trim behavior more realistically. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
June 6, 201114 yr ..just to make sure RTFM stands for: Read The Fu...g Manual? Jiri SekerkaFine. Read The Fine Manual Johan Pettersen
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