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As other users, FED UP with CTD's using FSX.

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LMAO, I need glasses?? I guess you have never flown FSX with PMDG MD11, REX2.0 and some ORBX or Aerosoft scenery

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hi, i used to have CTDs as well, all stopped after i just put UIAutomationcore.dll in fsx root directory, do a search and find and copy this file into your fsx root directory, worked for me!

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Mitch, sorry to hear that you've left FSX mate; as others have said you certainly shared with us a lot of nirvana moments in FSX over the years.I am in the category of people who never get CTDs, but then I don't ever tweak FSX and simply adjust my sliders to suit the area I am flying in. I also don't use too many third party addons with custom DLLs (exception is ENBSeries HDR, which is essential IMHO).Without trying to start any conspiracy theories - I have noticed a distinct escalation in user reported CTDs since MS rolled out Windows 7 SP1 via Windows Update. Just wondering if it is worth someone testing going back to virgin Windows 7 RTM to compare?

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hi, i used to have CTDs as well, all stopped after i just put UIAutomationcore.dll in fsx root directory, do a search and find and copy this file into your fsx root directory, worked for me!
Ye that only fixes uiautomationcore.dll error........ not all the other ones
Without trying to start any conspiracy theories - I have noticed a distinct escalation in user reported CTDs since MS rolled out Windows 7 SP1 via Windows Update. Just wondering if it is worth someone testing going back to virgin Windows 7 RTM to compare?
Nah, it's just that people are now fed up with it.I had CTDs way before windows 7

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Mitch, you never seem to do or say anything in halves do you? :( There is nothing that could make me go back to FS9 as it does not hold a candle alongside of improved FSX. Yuck! I would rather take up crossword puzzles or knitting first. :( Kind regards,

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I would rather take up crossword puzzles or knitting first. :( Kind regards,
+1Starcraft 2 is keeping me pretty busy. FS9... WAS nice.

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Without trying to start any conspiracy theories - I have noticed a distinct escalation in user reported CTDs since MS rolled out Windows 7 SP1 via Windows Update.
You may be on to something... I've never had a CTD in FSX, other than when repeatedlychanging airplanes on the fly... and I'm still on good old WinXP 32.

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Mitch,You're a "tougher" man that I am, because I could never go back to fs9 or even 9.5. I have had many frustrations with FSX, but all the hard work does pay off with some beautiful flights to a full stop.

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Why do we install FSX on a seperate drive, partition. 1. So it doesnt get fragmented every time you use your pc.2. If you have win7 or vista and have it installed in the default folder you get security issues, its possible that fsx is trying to access something and windows wont let it.3. If fsx is on a separate drive, then windows should load it faster, as it can write to the c drive while accessing the FSX drive. MAy only be marginal but every second counts.Maybe Im one that just got it right, had fsx with 4 different video cards, 3 different cpus, 3 different motherboards, xp32 and win7 64, and except for memory issues with xp 32 when i got a 1 gig video card, ive never had a dummyspit, unless i caused it myself.

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I think we've all had a love/hate relationship with FSX, right now with the rig in my sig, I am pretty happy. Today I was doing circuits in the new Classics Hangar BF108 over Tongass Fjords Sitka and had a transcendent experience.But I can remember reinstalling over and over, trying different OSs, reading reviews on hardware, Overclocking/testing/overclocking some more etc...I wonder sometimes why I do it, but then after tonight I remember. Mitch I guarantee you'll be back in FSX before Flight comes out. It's in our nature, we are not well people :biggrin:EDIT: Have you thought about having FSGS re-do your FSX install, Michael will make it very stable for you.

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I'm happy as well. Once I got all of my addons installed, everything looks great, performs great, and I've had only one CTD, which I don't consider too shabby, because I had plenty of CTDs and OOMs using FS9.

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FS98 should run like a banshee on today's hardware - or not.Cheersjja

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+1Starcraft 2 is keeping me pretty busy. FS9... WAS nice.
Yep, I'm taking a break running through the Half Life 2 series again - and patiently awaiting Battlefield 3!

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Nope. I'm not fed up yet. I rarely ever see a CTD. :(
Me too. Whilst I would agree that the amount of people saying they have problems surely indicates that there is some sort of issue, FSX has never been unstable on my machine, even when it was first released. The only time I have ever had a problem with it was when it once refused to reinstall until I did some messing about installing a few windows bits and pieces. Apart from that, it has and does run fine on my computer, and that's in either SP2 form, or with Acceleration.I suspect some of that might be down to the fact that I run it via XP, although to be fair, I do also run it on another machine using Vista, and that seems to work fine as well. I know that does not help the OP's complaint, but it is nevertheless not true to put over the impression that everyone who uses FSX is constantly beset by problems, for if it was, I would certainly say so.Al

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Me too. Whilst I would agree that the amount of people saying they have problems surely indicates that there is some sort of issue, FSX has never been unstable on my machine, even when it was first released. The only time I have ever had a problem with it was when it once refused to reinstall until I did some messing about installing a few windows bits and pieces. Apart from that, it has and does run fine on my computer, and that's in either SP2 form, or with Acceleration.I suspect some of that might be down to the fact that I run it via XP, although to be fair, I do also run it on another machine using Vista, and that seems to work fine as well. I know that does not help the OP's complaint, but it is nevertheless not true to put over the impression that everyone who uses FSX is constantly beset by problems, for if it was, I would certainly say so.Al
Yep, unless these CTD's were consistent across the board with everyone having the same crashes it is impossible to just blanket blame the sim for everyone's issues...To the contrary the amount of people NOT having problems lends itself to the counter theory that there are a lot of machines that are for whatever reason having isolated issues with stability... I know on one of my OS's enabling AA in the graphics drivers causes bluescreens and hw lockups. Same drivers, same settings as my other OS's but for whatever reason ONE behaves completely different and would actually make you believe you have a HW issue. But then 7 other OS's on the same box have NO issues. Just no rhyme or reason at all! But there is SOME setting, tweak, driver etc... on those boxes not playing nicely, not an "unstable" sim...-POn a separate note, some of you guys make me laugh, you obviously have not flown the PMDG MD-11 into Aerosoft Munich or UK2000 EGCC or EGLL using 100% AI and all the add-ons that came available to FS9 after the release of FSX. You act like it is going back to a Commodore 64 when in reality I bet I could post some vids that you would not even know it WAS FS9 and half of you would be asking how did you get FSX to run so smooth? Seriously, don't knock what you don't know but don't let me disturb you on your high horses or disturb your knitting :( :(

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... half of you would be asking how did you get FSX to run so smooth?
Actually, my problem was that I could never get FS9 to run smooth. I could get intermittent high frames in FS9 followed by serious lags which resulted in a very unsatisfying flight simming experience.Regards, Mike Mann

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Yep, I'm taking a break running through the Half Life 2 series again - and patiently awaiting Battlefield 3!
One of the best games ever made Ryan.

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I give up.I throw in the towel.FS9.5 Mitch'er
Mitcher that's unfortunate you couldn't get this debugged. I think FSX is prone to problems because there are for starters zillions of addons that have to play well with each other. That alone increases the odds of problems. Combine that with FSX's appetite for as much computing power as you can give it makes users want to squeeze every bit of power out of their hardware that I think many of us run the sim on the edge of instability and then wonder why she doesn't run quite right. Not suggesting that's you, but I know it happens. If you're fortunate you can make sim run really well, and I'm one of those folks. I never see CTD's, take 5h flights with no problems except the dang autopilot doesn't always avoid traffic when I'm away doing something else! I think this is another reason I'm not too anxious to upgrade hardware. I am intrigued by X-plane 10 though so will have a look at that when it's ready, but not because of FSX problems.Noel

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Mitcher that's unfortunate you couldn't get this debugged. I think FSX is prone to problems because there are for starters zillions of addons that have to play well with each other. That alone increases the odds of problems. Combine that with FSX's appetite for as much computing power as you can give it makes users want to squeeze every bit of power out of their hardware that I think many of us run the sim on the edge of instability and then wonder why she doesn't run quite right. Not suggesting that's you, but I know it happens. If you're fortunate you can make sim run really well, and I'm one of those folks. I never see CTD's, take 5h flights with no problems except the dang autopilot doesn't always avoid traffic when I'm away doing something else! I think this is another reason I'm not too anxious to upgrade hardware. I am intrigued by X-plane 10 though so will have a look at that when it's ready, but not because of FSX problems.Noel
-----------------------------------------------------------------Wow....I just got home from work....and dropped on into the forum. I almost feel ashamed 'for throwing in the towel' due to the truly great and supportive response to my venting thread. All of your responses deserves a 'one more' effort by myself. That is for sure. Since I always make an image back-up of my entire system, it will be a no-sweat to bring everything back onboard within about 30 minutes.I really do love what FSX brings to the table, but do NOT love the instability (at least on my system and config) as per my thread.I read through all the suggestions of you great bunch of folks...and first off....will start stripping out all the TWEAKS that we have accumulated over time to squeeze a few more drops out of performance. I will keep stripping them out and keep taking that KDTW-KMYR flight as a base line of reference. The first flight (I sure HOPE I fly one....) that allows me to land from along the original flight-path...will be my signal that I have isolated (at least in my config file...) the offending TWEAK/ENTRY. I will then publish that offending tweak..and hopefully it might stop the CTD's that any other user is experiencing. If I don't end up eliminating the CTD's...at least I can say to myself that I gave it the one last ol' college try...and made it worth your collective, and great support of another's FSX misery!It looks like it might be a long night....("Hey Honey....can you just slip the food under the door......and I love you for not rolling your eyes to much!) To reload the image backup and take a flight out of FSX's KDTW..... Wish me luck! I really want to keep FSX flying on this rig...but flying...and not crashing to the desktop. I already know what the desktop looks like! (large grin).Mitch

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On a separate note, some of you guys make me laugh, you obviously have not flown the PMDG MD-11 into Aerosoft Munich or UK2000 EGCC or EGLL using 100% AI and all the add-ons that came available to FS9 after the release of FSX. You act like it is going back to a Commodore 64 when in reality I bet I could post some vids that you would not even know it WAS FS9 and half of you would be asking how did you get FSX to run so smooth? Seriously, don't knock what you don't know but don't let me disturb you on your high horses or disturb your knitting :( :(
I agree that once inside the confines of an airport there isn't really much difference in looks between FSX and FS9, in fact in many cases if you look at a screen shot of an a/c parked at a gate in and aftermarket airport be it FSX or FS9, 99% of the time you probably wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. I think the difference for those of us who prefer FSX to FS9 these days is the way the sim looks once you are outside the confines of the airport, mainly speaking of the difference in looks between the ground textures and water textures. Personally, I had FS9 installed along with FSX about a year ago to make some in-sim comparisons and while I could squeeze a few more FPS out when running 100% AI, it was the way the sim looked outside of the airport that I couldn't take anymore and that was using GE Pro.If it means we have to turn off car traffic and lower AI from 100% at some airports to 80-90% AI, then so be it. I would rather trim AI a few percentage and get better global visuals than run AI at 100% for every airport and only enjoy the look when parked at a gate or on final/departure. Besides at large hubs like KJFK the difference between running 80% AI and 100% is barely even noticable, both settings will give you a huge amount of traffic comming and going, as well as traffic parked at the gates.Then again, you can always turn down the global textures, water settings, and autogen, all airport ground vehicles, run 512 clouds, and you will get performance that is pretty much the same as FS9, although the ground textures will still look a little better.
-----------------------------------------------------------------Wow....I just got home from work....and dropped on into the forum. I almost feel ashamed 'for throwing in the towel' due to the truly great and supportive response to my venting thread. All of your responses deserves a 'one more' effort by myself. That is for sure. Since I always make an image back-up of my entire system, it will be a no-sweat to bring everything back onboard within about 30 minutes.I really do love what FSX brings to the table, but do NOT love the instability (at least on my system and config) as per my thread.I read through all the suggestions of you great bunch of folks...and first off....will start stripping out all the TWEAKS that we have accumulated over time to squeeze a few more drops out of performance. I will keep stripping them out and keep taking that KDTW-KMYR flight as a base line of reference. The first flight (I sure HOPE I fly one....) that allows me to land from along the original flight-path...will be my signal that I have isolated (at least in my config file...) the offending TWEAK/ENTRY. I will then publish that offending tweak..and hopefully it might stop the CTD's that any other user is experiencing. If I don't end up eliminating the CTD's...at least I can say to myself that I gave it the one last ol' college try...and made it worth your collective, and great support of another's FSX misery!It looks like it might be a long night....("Hey Honey....can you just slip the food under the door......and I love you for not rolling your eyes to much!) To reload the image backup and take a flight out of FSX's KDTW..... Wish me luck! I really want to keep FSX flying on this rig...but flying...and not crashing to the desktop. I already know what the desktop looks like! (large grin).Mitch
Good to hear Mitch that you're not giving up. I am surpised again to hear of your problems. A few weeks ago after one of your posts I though you had your problems solved again, so I was pretty surprised to see uyou back again with issues.Hopefully at some point you will get to the point where some of us are, where you can run the sim 24/7 flying anything or anywhere you want and have no crashes or problems.

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Hence all the TWEAK posts. No kidding....M.S. ran like h*ll and abandoning it for good reasons, closed up the shop that coded it out. Also, I do not believe that there are ANY users of FSX that have not had a CTD and/or an animation freeze at any time of usage since it came out!!!!!
Maybe part of the problem is said tweak posts. Aces created the simulator and decided what parameters to make tweakable and what their default values should be. It's reasonable to assume that the values they came up with for the various configuration parameters are somewhat sensible, seeing as they wrote the whole thing.I'm not saying there's no point in tweaking - computers have changed a lot since FSX was released in 2006. Settings that didn't make sense on a 2006 PC might make sense on a high-end PC from 2011. However I don't think any amount of tweaking is going to magically "fix" a flaky FSX installation. However if FSX is already running smoothly and reliably on your systems, a few tweaks might help you achieve perfection.The only exception would be the known incompatibility between FSX and a Windows 7 dll file, UIAutomationCore.dll. You need to put Vista's version in your FSX folder, or the sim will crash after using the pop-up menus a few times.

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It looks like it might be a long night....("Hey Honey....can you just slip the food under the door......and I love you for not rolling your eyes to much!) To reload the image backup and take a flight out of FSX's KDTW..... Wish me luck! I really want to keep FSX flying on this rig...but flying...and not crashing to the desktop. I already know what the desktop looks like! (large grin).Mitch
Mitch, you're not having an out of memory error are you? That was the only thing that ever presented as a CTD for me and that was prior to my current PC and OS, and was secondary to the old and well known issue of having a, pardon my aging memory, an empty texture folder inside of a scenery folder. Sorry I really don't recall what the specifics were, but as I say it was a well known issue at the time I think.Good luck Mitch I hope you get it figured out as it is a very satisfying experience when it isn't broken. I think too for me, I don't have the hottest rig on the planet, but it's stable and plenty good 'nuf for enjoying. Tweaks beyond galore, EMBSeries this and FPS_limiter that and thrown in some new shaders and before long it's truly amazing everyone isn't suffering from CTD's!

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