August 27, 201114 yr I think some parts of NickN's tutorial are a bit "too careful". He is right about many things, but rebooting between various installs, not really necessary. I've been following my installations for a long time, then once I followed his set of rules to the letter, and saw absolutely no difference in performance, except that I need 3 times the time to install everything.My rule is only, do it calmly, start flight between SPs, and open FSX each time new scenery or aircraft is installed. FSX.cfg can be ported over, just leave out trusted section, to clean it up. Other guides are really more system guides, rather than FSX guides. One thing i think is very important, NO overclock of CPU when installing OS, FSX etc. etc. to avoid data corruption. Just my experience...
August 27, 201114 yr Razorseal, I feel for you and I think what I have to say may help. But rather than repeat what I have posted elsewhere, I have just copied it into this post..... Can I put in my pennies worth? From what I have read, and this is how I perceive it, forgive me if I am wrong or I sound patronising, that is not my intent. You got yourself all geared up for a new rig with high expectations of improved performance and no stutters, and we would all be the same. But after firing FSX up for the first time, understandably, your heart sank to the floor. Then desperation set in. All this money, all the excitement to be blown away in a fraction of a second. So you are then eager to find the answer. cfg tweaks, change this, change that, with no actual consideration for what all of the changes you make have on your rig. My experience has been that to get a smooth flying experience, or at least as smooth as possible, and to get any kind of decent perfformance, it is necessary to make a change at a time and test fly and test fly an identical scenario. If I run my rig with virgin cfg, it simply does not work. Monitor tearing, random texture loading, graphical anomolies etc. So the tweaks are imperative for me personally, I only wish I could follow JV's advice and have none at all! I think, from where I'm standing, that perhaps you have decided that the machine should perform in a certain way but have no real comparative benchmark for how it should actually perform. I have found simply loading a load of tweaks all at once did not work. Yes, over the past eight months, I have used most of Bojote's tweaks, but each one has been added to the cfg individually, and after each tweak I have spent a lot of time flying test flights and comparing different settings with the indivdual tweaks. That way it is possible to ascertain what effect each tweak has or indeed if it is at all detrimental. Once happy with a tweak I would then introduce the next. The bufferpools tweak I spent days getting just right! A lot of the tweaks we read about do not work in the same way for indivdual machines, all our rigs are different. I have tried simply adding a particular value tweak I have read about on a forum and it simply has not worked, the bufferpools entry being a prime example. A lot of talk about values of 5000000 or 1000000 or less or whatever, but after testing for over a week, just with that one tweak, I ended up with a value of 32750! That is a really strange value, but I promise you it works and works reasonably well. It has given me a performance boost and smoothness of 25% just that one tweak! So please don't be too disheartened.As I said, I really do feel for you., as I'm sure everyone else does on here. I think you have to just start being a little more methodical. There's a load of guys around here with more technical experience than myself, but nevertheless I can offer advice on how things have affected me directly and if I can help in any way I will. First of all, I suggest you take on board Heiko's recommendation regarding Inspector and your TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD settings. Then, what I personally would suggest is to get the suggested Bojote's tweak from the Venetubo website, let it do it's magic. Once you have the new cfg, place it in a folder on your desktop. Then delete the FSX cfg, run fsx and let it build a new cfg file. Then open the new cfg file and make a comparison of all the changed values in the bojote file, copy then and place them in a folder on yuor desktop and mark it something like, tweak cfg values. Now, you have your rebuilt, virgin cfg file in FSX andon your desktop you have your new values. What I did was then to add things that will not make a difference to the actual peformance, like HIGHMEMFIX=1, that is imperative as it prevents a well known FSX bug from apperaring when loading textures. You can add the preload tweak, wide aspect tweak etc. But do not add things like bufferpools or similar. These values should be the ones you add independently, while flying a test flight between each one. IMPORTANT, load a test flight sat at the end of a runway at one of your favourite airports, in the VC. Make sure brake is on and the framerate counter is running. Now, make a note of the frames and write them down on a notepad. IMPORTANT save the flight and name it' test' and when you rerun the flight all you do is load the 'test' flight. This way all your testing will be done under the same parameters. Then do a small circuit, making a note of the smoothness. Close the flight and make any adjustments to that single tweak, then reload the 'test' flight and do a comparison. Once you feel you have got to a point that there is an improvement, then move on to the next tweak and so on. Remember to keep exactly the same scenery settings. I suggest you have the Orbx recommended slider settings, but try your autogen at normal, just for the sake of the tests. Also I would personally recommend you lock your framerate at 30 or 40, again just for the tests. Once you have found the sweet spot after all your tests then you can start to push the envelope of your expectations. Please forgive me if I am trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs, but I have found this to work really well. As I said, I think slow and methodical are the two words that may help you. Keep us all informed on your progress and remember, keep smiling. As I said, this was written to another fellow simmer over on the Orbx forum, but I hope it will help, cheers. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
August 27, 201114 yr I think some parts of NickN's tutorial are a bit "too careful". He is right about many things, but rebooting between various installs, not really necessary. I've been following my installations for a long time, then once I followed his set of rules to the letter, and saw absolutely no difference in performance, except that I need 3 times the time to install everything.My rule is only, do it calmly, start flight between SPs, and open FSX each time new scenery or aircraft is installed. FSX.cfg can be ported over, just leave out trusted section, to clean it up. I am with you on that, I did Bejote's tweaks manually - then used the automatic tweaker when that was available, and getting good frame rates with most add-ons. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
August 27, 201114 yr ok, so I finally got my new computer and I see that after years (year?) the NGX has been finally released. I just finished setting my computer up today, and I install all these goodies, thinking my computer will blow FSX out of the water.... well I was wrong? I guess it's not particularly this plane, and I might have to look elsewhere, but getting 10 fps roughly, I'm not sure what tweak I can do to get another 15 unless I turn everything down FYI on highest settings my computer ran VRS F18 on it's highest setting as well without a problem (30 fpx max), all the setting almost maxed out at 1680x1050 come to put this NGX and the BAe and I'm only at around 10 fps.... computer specs are: Asus P8P67i5 2500K OC'd to 5.1ghz (Corsair H80 cooling)Nvidia GTX 560ti8gb 1600mhz DDR3 ramOS is running off a SSDFSX on WD Black Caviar 1TB any ideas? I'll give all the further info needed. I might post this in general section too, maybe they have couple things to say as wellDefrag my man using o&o defrag. Follow nickN`s guide on defragging. It will take a long time but well worth the effort. My youtube channel for HD FSX Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/Doogiereid?feature=mhee Doogie Reid
August 27, 201114 yr There is an intrinsic problem (well several probably) about simply loading all your addons at once. If you don't do a short flight inbetween, the registries and cfg never get time to readjust and settle down with the new add on. Also, if there is a problem after installing loads of stuff at once, when you come to fly and there is a problem, you will not know which of the addons is causing it. One thing I have learnt with FSX and that is it needs to be coaxed, tweaked with loving affection.... a little bit like a woman That way FSX will behave herself. Also, if you can run a rig without any antivirus and more importantly install addons, then do so. As loading software with AV running is asking for trouble. Cheers. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
August 28, 201114 yr Best bit of advice I've ever been given about FS - it's a database. A nice clean, well managed database won't give you any problems. I'd be tempted to check your temperatures too. I'm running an i52500K at 4.5Ghz with water cooling and the temps are fine. At 5.1 I'd be concerned about temps, voltages and by implication, CPU lifespan. Best Regards, Dan Parkin.
August 28, 201114 yr Yeah use Bejote's or ******* tweaks. I have a very modest rig.Q6600@ 3.4Ghz4 Gig dominator DDR2 10668800 GT @ 725Mhz GPU I get between 20 - 30 fps with limter in most cases unless in dense cities.Tweak the hell out of the cfg. Tweaked correctly your rig will nail it. James McAleese
August 28, 201114 yr For what it's worth, I would be running fsx off the SSD, not the OS. Your textures will load quicker, and you will only have to defrag the WD 1TB for your OS. System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
August 28, 201114 yr Defrag my man using o&o defrag. Follow nickN`s guide on defragging. It will take a long time but well worth the effort. Yes, I did that once too... Absoluetly zero diefrance compared with the standard Windows 7 defrag. My friends have done the same. Skae oil in my view. Martin Wilby
August 28, 201114 yr I think some parts of NickN's tutorial are a bit "too careful". He is right about many things, but rebooting between various installs, not really necessary. I've been following my installations for a long time, then once I followed his set of rules to the letter, and saw absolutely no difference in performance, except that I need 3 times the time to install everything.My rule is only, do it calmly, start flight between SPs, and open FSX each time new scenery or aircraft is installed. FSX.cfg can be ported over, just leave out trusted section, to clean it up. Other guides are really more system guides, rather than FSX guides.+1 Rick Hobbs
August 28, 201114 yr In my experience, just doing the tweaks recommended in the introduction was enough to run smoothly. Nick's tweaks are probably OK, but fiddling amount with that amount of complications in my view should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Make sure you run FSX as administrator. Henri Henri Arsenault
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