December 14, 201114 yr Commercial Member Thoughts?http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Higher_Prices_Digital_Charts_205875-1.htmlWithout a doubt this is far worse than many thought. This sort of thing will likely put an end to the free websites many of us use for charts. Noah Bryant
December 14, 201114 yr This really is too bad for not only us sim pilots but real world pilots as well.While I could see beginning to charge for digital products with the decrease of actual chart sales, the prices they are proposing seems excessive! Philip Manhart :American Flag: - "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." ~ Plato
December 14, 201114 yr Moderator Holy smoke! Those are outrageous fees proposed! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
December 14, 201114 yr I won't feel the hit for a while, as I mostly use paper charts minus en-routes. This is still a shame, as this is nothing more than a scheme to cover the inadequacy of NACO. The FAA should recognize the beauty of digital copies already and plan accordingly but in a way that doesn't kill off the other businesses. After all, part of their mission is to promote aviation.*AeroNav not NACO* Forgot that changed.On a similar note, the new sectionals are pretty sweet! Tear and water proof! ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
December 14, 201114 yr Well I guess when I fly online in my remarks section I will put "charts on bored=NO"
December 15, 201114 yr WOW . Yeah, that reallystinks. Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI) https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx https://discord.io/MaxDutyDay VENGEANCE a8200 Gaming PC: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, GeForce RTX 5080, 64GB DDR5, 4TB (2TB/2TB) M.2 SSD, Win11 Pro
December 15, 201114 yr Well I guess when I fly online in my remarks section I will put "charts on bored=NO"Do you expect the US taxpayer (or someone else) to subsidise your playing online games? Gerry Howard
December 15, 201114 yr Do you expect the US taxpayer (or someone else) to subsidise your playing online games?Yes
December 15, 201114 yr Moderator It's unfortunate that companies that provide digital charts for their customers have to pay so much for the subscriptions! With all of the budget issues befalling Congress and the FAA it's a lose/lose for everyone.For us Sim pilots though it's not as bad, in my opinion. Honestly, think about it for a second... do Sim pilots really need updated Approach Plates on a regular basis? the MSFS database of Airports that are installed in FSX and FS 9 doesn't change or isn't updated via the Internet, so what's the need? As long as you have the appropriate Plate/SIDS/STARS for the Airport you're flying to/from then you should be set.Of course, if you're also a RW pilot, or have procured an add on Airport for the Sim that has been changed to reflect its RW counterpart then I can understand the need for an updated Plate.Am I missing something here? I'm very curious to find out...Alan
December 15, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member That's true you dont need them updated as often, but still, where are you going to get them? It would seem that at this point the FAA is saying we will have to charge 150/year per user. So it doesn't matter how many times you update, you're paying for a year. However, I am hopeful that there will be other pricing options to take into account people who don't need ALL the data. When you go into a FBO and buy your sectionals, you aren't buying ALL sectionals right? You're buying just what you need. The FAA should understand that there's an app for that, lol. Noah Bryant
December 15, 201114 yr Yeah these ideas are a joke. Hopefully they never come to fruition. I'll just right off the ones I pay for as a business expense. Chris Miller
December 15, 201114 yr Yeah these ideas are a joke. Hopefully they never come to fruition. I'll just right off the ones I pay for as a business expense.Bingo. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
December 15, 201114 yr Hi,I went to the wonderful skyvector website and found an interesting post by the manager of the website:http://skyvector.com/forum/statement-regarding-faas-policy-change-regarding-digital-chart-distribution My gallery: http://s1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/yankeegolf/
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