Given the amount of childish, offensive abusive posts hurled at Microsoft and the Flight team in this forum, does anyone think that Microsoft is going to take this community seriously? Life is too short for it to try and filter out the rubbish - it will ignore it all. Such posts are simply counter-productive and will achieve nothing useful.

it will ignore it all.

But havent Microsoft done that already?

Such posts are simply counter-productive and will achieve nothing useful.

Correct but there are many posts here that have given me a good chuckle

Edited January 11, 201214 yr by graham3278

Microsoft couldn't care less..you're kidding yourself if you believe otherwise. Sure, some of the devs may read this forum, but so what?MS is a corporation..I doubt they did focus-groups on Flight, any more than they're going to listen to a bunch of simmers talk baout the fact that they won't buy it if they can't use NDB/VOR NAVAID or install their own addons, or must have the SDK etc....look at Vista and tell me MS listens to their customers!As far as MS is concened (and a lot of other game devs) WE are the beta testers,not the beta testers! They are really the alpha-plus testers..it's only when it gets out here and we all go: it's rubbish, that they will start changing/adding/fixing

Given the amount of childish, offensive abusive posts hurled at Microsoft and the Flight team in this forum, does anyone think that Microsoft is going to take this community seriously? Life is too short for it to try and filter out the rubbish - it will ignore it all. Such posts are simply counter-productive and will achieve nothing useful.

Thank you!

Don't worry, MS and their developers have thick skin. Had they not strung us along with their documented promises then we probably wouldn't make fun of "Flight".

The only thing that would get M$'s attention is how you choose to use your wallet...Regards,Scott

The only thing that would get M$'s attention is how you choose to use your wallet

Never a truer word...

No they do not care about me or others who post negative stuff about Flight. They have already ignored traditional flight simulator community anyways and targeted mainstream.

Given the amount of childish, offensive abusive posts hurled at Microsoft and the Flight team in this forum, does anyone think that Microsoft is going to take this community seriously? Life is too short for it to try and filter out the rubbish - it will ignore it all. Such posts are simply counter-productive and will achieve nothing useful.

We've already tried this with FSX's release many years ago. Although there was anger and frustration with performance FSX had a marginal following from the start that grew over the years. My question is, WHERE DID THAT GET US? There has been blind support for Microsoft in these forums and elsewhere all the way up to the official release notes on Flight published in the last couple weeks, again WHERE DID THAT GET US? Universal anger is the only thing that's left and it's warranted in this situation. Flight is inexcusable and the only solace we have in all this is the fact that at least our options at this point is FS9 and FSX. If they could take that away from us they would. Anger is very appropriate here, Voting with our wallets is another one, not blindly standing by silently is another valuable option.

Edited January 11, 201214 yr by Dillon

We've already tried this with FSX's release many years ago. Although there was anger and frustration with performance FSX had a marginal following from the start that grew over the years. WHERE DID THAT GET US? There has been blind support for Microsoft all the way up to the official release notes on Flight; again WHERE DID THAT GET US? Universal anger is the only thing that's left and it's warranted in this situation. Flight is inexcusable and the only solace we have in all this is at least our options is FS9 and FSX. If they could take that away from us they would. Anger is very appropriate here, Voting with our wallets is another one, not blindly standing by silently is another valuable option.

Well said. At least by telling the truth about Flight some new people interested in simming who go and look for flight simulator will ignore Flight and instead find FSX or X plane.

You want MS to listen? speak with your wallet..period...Prowler

Had they not strung us along with their documented promises then we probably wouldn't make fun of "Flight".

What documented "promises"?

What documented "promises"?

he's probably referring to the FAQ snippet mentioning the heritage of deep, immersive simulation which actually not fits together with the mentioned simplicity of “Microsoft Flight” one paragraph further down in the FAQ.

Edited January 11, 201214 yr by DAD

I don't know if things have since been taken down but Flight's website stated they were out to make a sim not a game, it would not be for XBOX (not very relevant to this conversation), an emphasis would be on performance, and it would carry the FS series along and be engaging to both old and new simmers. These promises sound allot like a replacement to FSX versus the gaming title it is. Again these comments may have since been taken down.

What documented "promises"?

These developer quotes seem to imply that Flight would not be an arcade game, but I guess that is open to interpretation..."We don’t need to create an arcade game to welcome a wider audience. But we do need to improve the total user experience if we’re to be successful in welcoming new audiences into the experience of Flight. The passion and fascination of flight is powerful, with so many different aspects to aviation and different levels of enjoyment to experience. There is distinct value and strength to be gained by welcoming a wider audience, and we can’t claim to have done the best job of it in the past.""It means improving the user-interface experience, achieving better performance on today’s hardware, providing more focused challenges for people who aren’t quite sure what to do next, and introducing more persistent experiences for people who return often. It also means keeping alive the freedom to go where you want, when you want, and to do what you want. Regardless of their hardware power, piloting experience, or level of interest, many people have enjoyed the traditional flight-simulation experience as a solitary activity. We see a compelling social aspect to the experience inherent in the fun, and we need to better enable and support this dynamic to strengthen the entire Flight experience for everyone"