The question is, will the triple threat be worth the upgrade?

 

Ivy + PCIe 3 + GTX 680

 

And that's a very good question, time will tell

I way to early to tell yet how these chips would perform. They are not even released yet, and it might just be a bad chip that they got. Good news is: they perform 5% - 15% better than SB at the same clockspeed (as far as I've heard).

Temps don't look promising no, but did they have HT disabled? There are so many factors that could cause high temps. I think it's just a bad chip that they got, or maybe (although it seems very unlikely) the heatsink didn't make enough contact with the CPU?

 

And although I agree with Word Not Allowed that the temps are not gonna drop 1/3 in month, I definately think they will be improved a lot. Because why would Intel want to sell chips that run at almost 100C at full load? Wouldn't be good for them... Even with a Corsair H100 temps would be a little bit on the high side...

 

It's way to early to make conclusions. We should wait a month or 2-3, till some good reviews are out. Time will tell everything...

 

But anyway, I'm gonna upgrade to Z77 and keep my i5 2500K. I'm fed up with Z68 with its double boots. Ima get a GTX 680, and probably insert an Ivy Bridge later on at some point.

umm... Have you guys ever took into consideration whether or not they were using a 3rd Party CPU cooler?

umm... Have you guys ever took into consideration whether or not they were using a 3rd Party CPU cooler?

 

One was using a Noctua NH-U12P + two fans on a 3770K

The second one a H80 + 3570K

Ok then, I guess I have to think about this if I were to upgrade my comp then.

Since the OP link reviews an engineering sample I wouldn't put too much credence in to it. That said one has to wonder if the postponement of Ivy Bridge is related.

 

Cheers

jja

Since the OP link reviews an engineering sample I wouldn't put too much credence in to it. That said one has to wonder if the postponement of Ivy Bridge is related.

 

Cheers

jja

 

This is probably why we wait until people start buying, and if it's good, we buy as well.

That said one has to wonder if the postponement of Ivy Bridge is related.

It's the mobile IVB chips that's delayed, the desktop line isn't.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike

The question is, will the triple threat be worth the upgrade?

 

Ivy + PCIe 3 + GTX 680

 

I think the answer is 'no'. FSX strikes me as a system of pipes that are clogged in specific locations. To add more force at one end and negative force at the other end will only marginally improve total performance because the clogs are within the coding and architecture of FSX. I think the real hope lies in a new simulator that is designed from the ground up to take advantage of modern hardware, 64-bit native mode, DirectX 11 and other instruction sets, better GPU utilization, and so forth. Maybe P3D will address some of these areas fundamentally, who knows. Or maybe XPlane will eventually make an even greater quantum jump. Outerra . . .

I think the answer is 'no'. FSX strikes me as a system of pipes that are clogged in specific locations. To add more force at one end and negative force at the other end will only marginally improve total performance because the clogs are within the coding and architecture of FSX. I think the real hope lies in a new simulator that is designed from the ground up to take advantage of modern hardware, 64-bit native mode, DirectX 11 and other instruction sets, better GPU utilization, and so forth. Maybe P3D will address some of these areas fundamentally, who knows. Or maybe XPlane will eventually make an even greater quantum jump. Outerra . . .

I'm a bit more optimistic. I remember when there was a time when fps were at single digits in specific flying scenarios. Now fps are in the teens. That's double the frame rates. All I need is about 10 more fps and I'll be even happier.

Clearly 22nm chips are not meant to run the voltages at which some recipients of engineering samples have run them. Heat will not be an issue, otherwise. 1.35V was pushing it for 32nm, I wouldn't dream of running a 22nm chip at that voltage, let alone on + ambient cooling.

Clearly 22nm chips are not meant to run the voltages at which some recipients of engineering samples have run them. Heat will not be an issue, otherwise. 1.35V was pushing it for 32nm, I wouldn't dream of running a 22nm chip at that voltage, let alone on + ambient cooling.

 

Too right.

 

I cant believe it is wise to run them beyond 1.3 volts max. I'll probably change my MB for a Z77 and hope to find a good 2700k that will o/c to 5Ghz+. Then I can connect a 4th monitor for 2d panels.

2700k that will o/c to 5Ghz+.

 

Be ready for some HOT temps! LOL Even with mine @ 1.34vcore, my temps are in the mid 60's.

 

Sending a SB to 5+GHZ will require high voltage; Even if you get a REALLY good 2700K, you will need dramatically higher voltage than when running under 5GHZ. - Likely well over 1.4Volts :o

I'm a bit more optimistic. I remember when there was a time when fps were at single digits in specific flying scenarios. Now fps are in the teens. That's double the frame rates. All I need is about 10 more fps and I'll be even happier.

 

You know I'm almost never in the teens--I'm in the 20's on up, and look what I'm using. Yes, I sometimes avoid the densest metropolitan areas if I'm in the NGX, but heck everything else I can run anywhere anytime, and many of my sliders are hard right. You're on a 2700K @ 4.8 and arguably, your comment above could apply easily to me. I know we're not really comparing specific scenarios, but still, I'm very underwhelmed when I hear comments of how folks w/ high end, over clocked rigs report performance that really sounds very much like mine. I have smooth performance, adequate frames almost always, and in summary, a totally enjoyable experience. I do need to be mindful to not set up situations that are too stressful for the hardware, but I'm thinking from what I read others w/ high end rigs are not proclaiming utter perfection. So I think this is why I have the pessimism re IB. But I certainly don't really know!

Hi,

 

Do you guys on 4,5 to 5 Ghz i7 2600k machines claiming good FPS use 100% AI ? How many traffic BGLs do you have in your Scenery folder?

 

I find that most comments regarding smooth performance in FSX come from GA flyers. I'm still waiting for a HW setup to run FSX with my custom AI, flying to big hubs, with heavy weather conditions and complex addons.

 

Right now I'm quite happy with FS9 under these conditions and I have a feeling that Ivy Bridge still won't be enough to provide a similar experience in FSX. I hope I'm wrong.

 

Best Regards