They must be costly ?

More or less like Z68 boards, and yes, SRT is supposed to be supported by Z77 boards

Oh interesting... will the 3570K be much better than the 2500K? Are we talking 10% or 50% etc?

 

I believe about 3% increase..kidding. I hope at least 20-25% increase (or better). However, it seems only 8MB cache ? Humm, I was hoping it be significantly more. Well, will see.

I hope at least 20-25% increase (or better).

 

There have been previews out for a while, and it's confirmed that the performance increase is in the 5-15% range. Remember Ivy Bridge is an Intel 'Tick' update, so it's about moving to a smaller fab process and its associated efficiency gains. Intel is making significant gains with its IGP performance for IVB but that doesn't really matter to us flight simmers.

Oh interesting... will the 3570K be much better than the 2500K? Are we talking 10% or 50% etc?

 

I think after 5-10% improvement clock for clock, much more than that will have to rely on better overclockability from what I've read. I sure hope better overclockability will get the thing up maybe 25% over highest end SB K, in which case that will be worthwhile, certainly for people who are still using C2Q. I was very sorry to see so much allocation for the onboard GPU. What would really be cool would be for Intel to offer their K series IB CPUs w/o the GPU support--I mean if those units were back under the domain of CPU functions--this could add an additional kick I'm guessing.

 

Noel

I was waiting for Ivy but after reading this:

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4621/intel_ivy_bridge_overclocking_with_the_core_i7_3770k_and_core_i5_3570k_cpus/index1.html

 

I am not so sure. It looks like either I will be going for i7-2700K combo now, or wait until next year.

I was waiting for Ivy but after reading this:

 

http://www.tweaktown...pus/index1.html

 

I am not so sure. It looks like either I will be going for i7-2700K combo now, or wait until next year.

 

I would wait and see still. FSX does a lot of weird stuff compared to more normal games or benchmarks. IVB might compute better exactly what FSX needs, or may not, soon we will know hopefully.

I was waiting for Ivy but after reading this:

 

http://www.tweaktown...pus/index1.html

 

I am not so sure. It looks like either I will be going for i7-2700K combo now, or wait until next year.

 

I agree, looks disappointedly weak. Unless there are hidden tricks coming w/ the release grade silicon it would appear tri-gate is good mostly for lower power consumption, w/ actual overclockability being not much better and in fact possibly worse. looks like I'm either going to sit out another year w/ my old Q9650 which really still, shockingly still, generates a good 'nuf experience in FSX to make waiting til Haswell another year tolerable! As mentioned, it's unfortunate Intel doesn't offer a version of their CPUs w/o the allocation to a GPU. This might, depending on how many transistors go to the GPU as a percentage of the total, offer that extra edge to seal the deal.

I was waiting for Ivy but after reading this:

 

http://www.tweaktown...pus/index1.html

 

I am not so sure. It looks like either I will be going for i7-2700K combo now, or wait until next year.

 

Wow... Those temps don't look too promising. I am starting to loose a little bit of hope for IB.

Damn those temps suck...

 

I am sure most IB chips will get to 4.7-5 ghz as most sandybridge chips got to 4.5-4.8, I doubt people will get high overclocks past 5 on these unless they are later down the production line, you do get the small 5-10% clock for clock advantage. These chips were designed for effencicy and intergrated graphic improvements remember, people with sandybridge chips may not find it the wisest upgrade...

Damn those temps suck...

 

I am sure most IB chips will get to 4.7-5 ghz as most sandybridge chips got to 4.5-4.8, I doubt people will get high overclocks past 5 on these unless they are later down the production line, you do get the small 5-10% clock for clock advantage. These chips were designed for effencicy and intergrated graphic improvements remember, people with sandybridge chips may not find it the wisest upgrade...

 

I think processor upgrades as a means towards a better FSX experience is for all intents and purposes over w/ the exception of very minor improvements w/ IB or Haswell, and even this is up for debate, i.e. the minor improvements part. The real hope lies in either a totally different sim platform, or maybe Prepar3D being designed to better utilize multiple cores, 64-bit addressing, DirectX 11, etc. These are technologies that already exist and are poised to be accessed. Fortunately, we can enjoy a decent experience already, but as I say, don't hold your breath for much more for FSX itself since improving clock-for-clock performance arguably has only minor upside left in it. And when you see the real emphasis from Intel is on improving the onboard GPU, the onboard memory controller, and after Haswell, true System on a Chip, it's pretty easy to see we shouldn't expect raw CPU power as the direction one can anticipate, and this seems to be what FSX is hungriest for.

...true System on a Chip...

 

The Intel Omnivore?

The Intel Omnivore?

 

LOL

I wont be upgrading my SB. From my research, these CPU's are intended for,as simon says, for efficiency and onboard graphics performance.

IS there a chance of 2011 mother boards being released even if Ivy Bride-E processor is not going to be out until later this year or early next year?

 

I would like to use the Sandy Bridge-E processor for now and then replace it with the Ivy E CPU later.

 

I know I could get the 2011 motherboard for Sandy Bridge and use Ivy Bride-E CPU on it.. But I want the new Z77 chipset on the motherboard.

 

Edited to add: I believe I cannot

 

http://www.tomshardw...-bridgedetailed

 

Quote

 

"You can not use the i7-3930K with the Z77 chipset."

 

Chipset comparisson

 

http://www.anandtech...tecture-exposed

 

The Question then is, what is it that Z77 has that Z68 does not?