As title, is there something worthwhile?

 

Thanks in advance.

Wilco 737 v2

I don't think the Wilco is that great. But unfortunately, that's all we have when it comes to the classics. For me it's just hard after using the NGX the two are worlds apart. I knew full well going in to it, so just don't have high expectations. It functions fairly well besides a hideous VC.

Well no addon is really great if they are always compared to something made by PMDG. Wilco one is good, better than average.

No problem with the Wilco. Just don't expect visuals in the means of NGX. I'm flying her (Wilco) more often than any 737NG of mine, just because it's a Classic. She's a bit on the pricey side though, but, as the guys already said, that's the only current Classic rendition there is.

Check out the Avsim review on her to catch the spirit and some screenshots. http://www.avsim.com.../Wilco/737.html

I'd add either MCE or FS2Crew and maybe some extra sound set. This really pushes the immersion a lot.

 

If you're up to the even older 737s, Captain Sim and Milviz are working on theirs and the Just Flight was released not too long ago.

Wilco's classics are very good examples. We don't forget the rest of the world just because something out of the ordinary comes up, do we?

 

I didn't stop flying all my other aircraft just because of the NGX, or i'd be dead bored by now. Go with the Wilco, it's not the best, but it's not poor either and it flies VERY nicely actually.

Thank you, i'll check some reviews.

There is only really one choice for a Classic 737, and that is the PIC Wilco one, since all the others for FSX are either Original or NG variants. It was fairly recently overhauled in a major way to a V2 version, which is the 737 Pilot in Command Evolution, and that's the one you want, as it is a native FSX model which was completely rebuilt. It is in fact one of the best-handling FSX 737s you can get, the flight modeling and ground handling is excellent, a lot better than many other FSX efforts. The VC is not as flashy as the PMDG one, but it is nevertheless okay. Systems-wise it is pretty much all there too.

 

Another plus point for it, is that there are a lot of add-ons for it, such as a dedicated co-pilot add on and a training/career mission set amongst other things.

 

Al

There is only really one choice for a Classic 737, and that is the PIC Wilco one, since all the others for FSX are either Original or NG variants. It was fairly recently overhauled in a major way to a V2 version, which is the 737 Pilot in Command Evolution, and that's the one you want, as it is a native FSX model which was completely rebuilt. It is in fact one of the best-handling FSX 737s you can get, the flight modeling and ground handling is excellent, a lot better than many other FSX efforts. The VC is not as flashy as the PMDG one, but it is nevertheless okay. Systems-wise it is pretty much all there too.

 

Another plus point for it, is that there are a lot of add-ons for it, such as a dedicated co-pilot add on and a training/career mission set amongst other things.

 

Al

 

I'll have to remember this for the future. I am intrigued by your 'review' of it.

She's a bit on the pricey side though,

If I'm not mistaken, feelThere had a sale or it is still on where this PIC737 is reduced.Check out the Bargains Forum.

As title, is there something worthwhile?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

In short, no. If the PMDG NGX is major league, the Wilco is little league. Looks, systems, immersion. The FDE feels good though. Still not worth it I think, unless you find it on a sale.

Does PMDG has a 737-Classic ? Ok....Then why are we comparing a classic with an apple, or an orange with an Anona ? :lol:

Does PMDG has a 737-Classic ? Ok....Then why are we comparing a classic with an apple, or an orange with an Anona ? :lol:

Yeah, I cant understand how just PMDG having 737NG would make Wilco 737 CLASSIC to be some way not worth it.

 

Wilfo/Feelthere new 737 classic is one of the best addons ever made. Totally worth it.

Well there's always room to compare good addons with bad ones. Wilco is a bad one. If you've become used to a high standard then the Wilco will be a real let down. I also wouldn't call comparing a 737-600 with a 737-500 "apples and oranges", although when comparing a PMDG with a Wilco they do look miles apart.

 

I don't ever fly the Wilco anymore, that's my point. I probably won't even install it next time I do a format. So no, I don't think it's worth while, to answer the original question.

You are of course entitled to your opinion, but I heartily disagree with it. Nobody would deny that the PMDG FSX 737 is, as you say 'major league', but to suggest that the EVO 737 is 'little league' is simply not an accurate appraisal at all in my opinion. Even if we disregard that in its 2006 incarnation, the PIC 737 was granted a Gold Award from Avsim, six years on, its Evolution incarnation is indeed an evolutionary step up from that former high standard which garnered it the Avsim accolade, since it received a truly major revamp, and one which addressed my main issue with the original incarnation; the external model, being that the new model is indeed very good, and the other issue people had - native FSX modeling.

 

The systems simulation on the Evolution version is entirely complete from an operational standpoint, even if it is not as obsessively detailed as the PMDG NG's 'under the hood' treatment of that simulation, and as far as looks go, the exterior modeling is more or less on par between the two inasmuch as they can be compared, since they are in fact very different aeroplanes in real life, as indeed they must therefore also be in a simulation. The texturing in the VC certainly is more detailed on the PMDG NG and it has some superb innovations, such as the HGS simulation, but it is perfectly adequate in the Evolution's as far as operability is concerned, even if it is not as photorealistic, and this realism is certainly more important than looks.

 

The PMDG base pack cost me 69.99 US Dollars, the Evolution 737 cost me roughly 53 Dollars (can't be more precise, since I paid for it in Euros, but that's the exchange rate today). For that I got two 737 NG variants from PMDG (the 737-800 and 737-900, although in fairness, there is much customisation available for these two models), and six Classic variants from Wilco (the 737-300, 737-400 and 737-500, each one being available with either a glass, or a traditional steam gauge cockpit, again these being quite customisable). Make of that what you will, but I got at least one extra aircraft type for about 15 Dollars less, so I think that does balance matters where value for money is concerned.

 

Of course there is more to value than simply quantity, quality counts too, and whilst I would not pretend that the PMDG does not significantly raise the bar where that is concerned, and as far as innovation is concerned too, the Evo 737 is enough of a simulation to please me and I'm sure many others too, especially when it actually is the only Classic 737 you can get for FSX. The PMDG 737 NG has a good flight model, but having said that, the original Wilco PIC 737 set the bar for FS 737 flight modeling, and it can still stand proud in that regard, as you concede.

 

Here are some comparison shots, just for interest's sake. You can check the Wilco and PMDG sites for listings of systems which are modeled if you are curious on that score, and even though it is true that the PMDG NG is a tour-de-force in this respect, you will find that the Evo one has little to be ashamed of if systems simulation is your thing when compared to most high end FSX airliners.

 

PMDG VC:

 

 

Evo VC:

 

 

PMDG exterior:

 

 

Evo exterior:

 

 

The Evolution 737 Classic, like the PMDG 737 NG, is a worthy FSX add-on in my opinion. Everyone will agree that it's not quite in the same league as the PMDG NG in some respects, but to call it 'little league' is more than a little disingenuous; it is a Classic both in name and in nature if you ask me.

 

Al