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UPDATED: PMDG Releases Statement Regarding EULAs for P3D---->Avsim article

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What even is P3D? A simple explanation will do, rather than ten pages full of information on it :P

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Whatever you do don't abandon FSX. Because that will force me to switch sims :lol:

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What even is P3D? A simple explanation will do, rather than ten pages full of information on it :P

 

You will easily find out just by reading on the internet....and then you will never forget.

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Oh wow, a new sim... I certainly haven't forgot now ha!

 

Does it have better FPS?

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IIRC It's just FSX but Lockhead have changed the code slightly for their use.

 

Some of you have been living under a rock by the sounds of it.

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I really hope that LM and PMDG can come to some sort of an understanding regarding licencing. I for one have been very curious (and hopeful) about P3D, but have seen no reason to give it a shot knowing that it's future did not include PMDG.

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IIRC It's just FSX but Lockhead have changed the code slightly for their use.

 

It's actually much more than that. Lockheed Martin has spent months now re-writing a lot of the base code, not just changing the UI for 'their' use. They are also taking improvements requested by the community to incorporate into every new release (when's the last time we had that in FSX?!?).

 

A short list of the improvement thus far:

 

- Faster texture loading (NO blurries)

- Stutters almost non-existent, even with graphics level set higher than your system can handle

- Bathymetry for the entire world (underwater)

- UI for Graphics option incorporates many 'tweaks' that we used to have to edit the fsx.cfg to use (i.e. TML up to 4096, LOD radius up to 6.5, etc.)

- Shader 3.0 support incorporated

- and more!

 

More info here: http://www.prepar3d.com/experience/

 

Join the discussion about it or feel free to ask the expanding user base any questions here at Avsim!: http://forum.avsim.net/forum/436-the-unofficial-prepar3d-forum/

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I really hope that LM and PMDG can come to some sort of an understanding regarding licencing. I for one have been very curious (and hopeful) about P3D, but have seen no reason to give it a shot knowing that it's future did not include PMDG.

 

For me, it is simple - if they switch, I'll switch. There are tools and techniques to make most add-ons move over. I'm ready and I think LH will appreciate the business - probably keep them in the market. Plus, I think LM's pricing structure is right on - no need to switch it. We are paying for what the platform is worth.

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I hope PMDG sort something out. It will be cool to come on Avsim and discover that all the PMDG aircraft now have P3D installers.

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There's a guy who got the NGX to work, it wasn't too difficult from what I read.

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There's a guy who got the NGX to work, it wasn't too difficult from what I read.

 

Yes, I think quite a few people have got the NGX working in P3D, but without PMDG support - and that's no minor detail.

As P3D continues to gradually evolve away from it's FSX roots, PMDG is currently under no obligation to update their product to work with it. I believe I even read at some point (or maybe I was dreaming) that PMDG had been considering taking steps to prevent the use of their products within P3D.

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I'm very hopeful of Prepar3d for the future. With their student version which is affordable and their talks with PMDG. It looks to be heading in the right direction for consumers, I mean students..

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Could someone who uses P3D and the NGX come forward and tell us what it's like? Would be nice to find out.

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Like most of us I would love to have a modern alternative to FSX but, unless you are in management at Lockheed, no one knows if that's P3D. PMDG may have several things it wants to accomplish in all of this but I take Robert at his word when he says he is looking after PMDG customers. Unless and until P3D is an actual commercial product, that we will have guaranteed access to going forward, I don't think we will see any supported PMDG products on that platform.

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I'm very interested in getting an "improved FSX". From what I gather from these forums, there is a big P3D v2 coming out that is supposed to have a bunch of improvements. If they are signifigant enough I will have to try P3D.

 

I have been very concerned with the wording in the Prepar3d EULA. However at $50, the risk (LM snatching prvate licenesen from us) versus reward (an upgraded FSX that makes use of modern programming techniques and tools to improve sim experience) makes Prepar3d v2 a viable option.

 

However if the upgrades aren't signifigant enough I will stay on whatever platform offers the best addon aircraft.

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Is anyone using P3D? I know ORBX are releasing products compatible with it. So, how does it perform in comparison with FSX???

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I use P3d exclusively to get my Microsoft FS fix. (I also regularly fly XP10)

On my rig I get very much the same FPS and graphics but it feels a lot smoother than FSX. I know it is a very objective measure but I think the difference is so good that I can live without my RealityXP GPS'.

The RealityXP guages are pretty much the only addon that I can not get working in P3D.

P3D also doesn't appear to have real time weather built in but I use Active Sky 2012.

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I use P3d exclusively to get my Microsoft FS fix. (I also regularly fly XP10)

On my rig I get very much the same FPS and graphics but it feels a lot smoother than FSX. I know it is a very objective measure but I think the difference is so good that I can live without my RealityXP GPS'.

The RealityXP guages are pretty much the only addon that I can not get working in P3D.

P3D also doesn't appear to have real time weather built in but I use Active Sky 2012.

 

Sounds to me it's kinda an FSX-lite with some minor performance-enhancing fixes. I don't like the idea of not having real-time weather.

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I don't like the idea of not having real-time weather.

 

Is that not covered by AS2012?

 

P3D also doesn't appear to have real time weather built in but I use Active Sky 2012.

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Yes, Active Sky 2012 gives me the real weather. I was just mentioning that I was surprised that you don't get real weather built into P3D.

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Is that not covered by AS2012?

 

I know you can get it with AS2012. What I meant was no real-time update from P3D itself. Atleast with FSX I can get real-time weather without an external addon program needed.

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At least with FSX I can get real-time weather without an external addon program needed.

 

If you can call it 'real' - it (MS FSX downloadable realtime WX) does not come close to a third party provider..the choice...as ever...is up to the end user.

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IDC about Prepar3D at this time, but I do care about this though:

 

We hope to have more news on this topic late next week…

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