Hi everyone,

 

Just for information the defrag program that I am referring to is the free defrag program in Windows itself and no need for purchase andis a personal thing. If it takes 7 hours to defrag a drive that drive is badly in need of a defrag. On SSD drives there may not be a need for a defrag. But to clear it up for everyone if you have a conventional drive you have a read write head that jumps around on the disk platter that is looking for data and writeing data. This is hard on the drive and you should try and minimise the ware and tare on the drive. You will be extending your drives life and $$$. Defraging goes way back in time and when backing up files were a lot of work and time. No one did it until they lost information they really needed; and after that they find a way to back up their files but it's to late. Just trying to help everyone out and enjoy FSX for a long time to come now that we can run it in DX10 preview which I might say is nothing less than great. As said the SSD is a memory drive like a ram drive or a flash drive which is run by memory, no moving parts. That is the reason that SSD drives were made, but there are issues with them also. They are super fast but the longevity is a lot shorter than a conventional drive.

 

Les :hi:

 

I hear and echo, echo echo? How many more are going to repeat the same information?

I haven't defragged my C: drive for about a year because it takes too long, i think it was about 7 hours (?) last time.

Is that normal or can we speed it up somehow?

 

Mine takes that long and longer. The duration is relative to your drive size, degree of fragmentation, free space and number of individual files. Some de-fragementation programs also pause whenever the computer is in active use to avoid disrupting the user.

Defragging too much can also wear out your HDD. Every few months is ample,and avoid using windows defragger. NickN has a guide @ simmforums which explains in depth.

http://www.simforums...187.html#198187

 

I totally disagree! The windows defrag is fine. I did all kinds of test on my system with fancy defrag programs. A couple of friends did too. No tangible difference.

 

I've always used windows defrag with no issues at all. Easy to be fooled into thinking your fancy defrag utility gives better results. But I've yet to see objective evidence of that.

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It depends on how much you want to tweak your system. if you chase smoothness and fps then windows defrag is not goof for FSX. The reason O&O is considered one of the best is that it doesn't leave spaces between clusters as most other defraggers. NickN did some extensive testing on defragging down at the basic hardware level and found that even thought a lot of defraggers SAY the drive is defragged, there are large ( by drive standards) gaps between clusters. And it is not only the defrag itself but they type of of defrag and the order in which you do it that are important.

 

However, it is just one bit of the puzzle - if you defrag and expect to see huge changes - it is nhot going to happen unless hyour system was in really bad shape to start with. Also, there is absolutely NO need to run a defragger any more than once a month - just adding more wear and tear on the drive.

 

Vic

Hi

My self I am using smart defragmenter 2 by iobit which is free and find it great but lately I have been really worried about my HD which is a WD raptor, no matter if I defrag it or not when I switch on my pc the noise it makes is incredible, it sounds as if it is really working hard trying to organise its self then after about 2 mins it quitens down. Is this ok or should I be worried that it could need replacing.

 

Cheers Shaun

I like Piriform Defraggler. It's free, it's fast, and it has an option to shut off the computer after it's done defragging (Great if you're going to sleep or something). They also make the popular CCleaner, which I recommend as well.

Just went to go modify my schedule and realized I hadn't been defragging my SSD as I had earlier believed.. Unfortunately, I'm also at 26.17% fragmentation on the SSD..

 

-Damien

Just went to go modify my schedule and realized I hadn't been defragging my SSD as I had earlier believed.. Unfortunately, I'm also at 26.17% fragmentation on the SSD..

 

-Damien

 

DON'T defrag SSDs. SSD fragmentation makes *zero* difference in performance. Defragging your SSD will wear out the flash memory.

Those worried about the health of their hard drives can try the windows chkdsk.exe command, or use DiskCheckup or a similar program to check the disks status:

 

http://download.cnet.com/DiskCheckup/3000-2248_4-127159.html?tag=mncol

 

Sea tools from Seagate will do much the same and though it is from Seagate, it will work for any drive.

 

http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/

 

Finally, there are sites where you can actually listen to or read about the sounds of various types of HD problems, for comparison with any noises you might find questionable

 

http://www.thenetworkadministrator.com/crashingharddrive.htm

 

http://datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php