October 21, 201213 yr I was planning on buying the 787 upon release, but now I will spend that money elsewhere. You dont have much choice since you only use FS2004. Aerosim 787 is FSX only. Oh, there still is Abacus.
October 21, 201213 yr Nope, I don't think it is unreasonable at all. What they develop, or what ANY developer decides to produce is entirely up to them. If their research and so on shows that perhaps FS9 isn't their market, more power to them. Point being that there is still a sizable FS9 market for addons, be it aircraft of this caliber or scenery, or what have you. If they are basing their decision not to produce the 787 on the sales of the BAe146, this would be a mistake in my opinion. As has been stated above, the two aircraft are completely different animals and the BAe is more of a niche aircraft that doesn't appeal to many the same as as the 787 does/will. I was planning on buying the 787 upon release, but now I will spend that money elsewhere. Same as a developer (Qualitywings in this case) decides not to support FS9, I choose not to support Qualitywings. Simple as that, and not distorted/incorrect. A matter of opinion or preference, maybe, I'll give you that much. With respect, your initial post on the matter was very... blunt. ^_^ Insinuating QW "doesn't want your money" was by no means a well calculated statement. To assume companies will forever cater to an 8+ year old sim is, in my mind, unreasonable. But then this has been argued and beaten to a pulp. I don't expect companies to pour resources into a platform with "negligible" return and QW, I'm very positive, knows their market. Input from anyone else is just baseless conjecture. That number maybe correct but I think 25% sales had alot to do with the bad or slow economy for the past few years. Where people like myself had to spend on more practical things. I have not purchased the B146 yet because I had to focus more on personal things, but I do intend to purchase it once I get some other things squared away. Again, this number is relative to the FSX users. Are FS9'ers more sensitive to the economy? I doubt that. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
October 21, 201213 yr That's one way to look at it. An incorrect and inaccurate/distorted way, but one way nonetheless. :rolleyes: You think it's unreasonable to abandon development for an 8 year old sim? Well to be fair FSX is now a little over 6 years old sim so why don't they abandon this sim also if age is a reason to stop development? Sean Green
October 21, 201213 yr Well to be fair FSX is now a little over 6 years old sim so why don't they abandon this sim also if age is a reason to stop development? If there's a newer, more capable alternative... Sure (P3D, some later version of X-Plane). Playing word games is no way to make a valid argument. Your logic neglects the fact that FSX is 6+ year old. If that was the only criteria, we would be all discussing MS Flight new DLC's or X-Plane 10 addon's, but we aren't, are we? Again, twisting my logic without the fact in mind that there's no newer alternative. Age isn't the only factor -- I just figured you could grasp that without a disclaimer! (You can, you just didn't because it started another argument.) ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
October 21, 201213 yr Well to be fair FSX is now a little over 6 years old sim so why don't they abandon this sim also if age is a reason to stop development? Age has nouthing to do with it. Its the % of the market usage. That simple.
October 21, 201213 yr To assume companies will forever cater to an 8+ year old sim is, in my mind, unreasonable. Your logic neglects the fact that FSX is 6+ year old. If that was the only criteria, we would be all discussing MS Flight new DLC's or X-Plane 10 addon's, but we aren't, are we?
October 21, 201213 yr I only stated what you said Zach changing FS9 to FSX and 8 years to 6 years. Basically I was playing your word game according to the post you made earlier which I quoted. I agree with you though, until something newer comes out which for me is P3D or my real world flying. Sean Green
October 21, 201213 yr I only stated what you said Zach changing FS9 to FSX and 8 years to 6 years. Basically I was playing your word game according to the post you made earlier which I quoted. I agree with you though, until something newer comes out which for me is P3D or my real world flying. Fair enough Sean. I hate we have to choose our words so carefully around here, lest we get jumped. The point being it's understandable (not relieving/good/etc) to me that support for FS9 is waning. Just a side note-- I'm completely neutral in regards to the pointless/boring FS9 vs FSX argument (I couldn't care less what sim another member uses). If this thread becomes that it will be locked. That debate is useless and always gets nasty. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
October 21, 201213 yr That is too bad, I was waiting for the Dreamliner and I had every intention of purchasing it. Sadly, I think this is a sign of things to come. I guess I just saved some money. Don't blame for my name, my parents were hippies and met in Woodstock
October 21, 201213 yr personaly their 757 sucks id prefer captian sims's i didnt even know their bae was for fs9 but that plane was a big risk to even develop but their 787 for fs9 would for sure get aloot of sales and even more on fsx. Shame, mostly that the bae kinda made them stop making products for fs9 cause they didnt make any profit on that
October 21, 201213 yr That is too bad, I was waiting for the Dreamliner and I had every intention of purchasing it. Sadly, I think this is a sign of things to come. I guess I just saved some money. +1 Exactly what I was going to say. Bob
October 22, 201213 yr With respect, your initial post on the matter was very... blunt. ^_^ Insinuating QW "doesn't want your money" was by no means a well calculated statement. To assume companies will forever cater to an 8+ year old sim is, in my mind, unreasonable. But then this has been argued and beaten to a pulp. I don't expect companies to pour resources into a platform with "negligible" return and QW, I'm very positive, knows their market. Input from anyone else is just baseless conjecture. Again, this number is relative to the FSX users. Are FS9'ers more sensitive to the economy? I doubt that. You're correct the number was relative to FSX users. But how many FSX users purchased the software because Quality Wings was smart enough to make it usable to P3D users. That's what I think the advantage over FS9 to FSX. Bill McIntyre Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64
October 22, 201213 yr My questions is this: How do they know which users are FS9 and which are FSX? I have both platforms on my computer, but use FS9 90% of the time. They are sold as one product are they not? I too purchased the BAe only for a show of support for QW and their decision to continue making FS9 products. I feel a little shafted right now. Oh well, we can only hope that maybe they may change their mind in the future. System: P3D v5.3HF2 , Intel i9-9900K o/c to 5.1Ghz, Nvidia ASUSGeForce RTX RTX 3090 24GB, MPG Z390 Gamng Edge mobo, 64Gb G.Skill DDR4 3600Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit,
October 22, 201213 yr I think this is a sign of things to come That time has plum gone and went. I saw this coming two or 3 yrs ago and slowly made the switch to FSX after refusing to for a number of years. I have no regrets switching to FSX and still have FS2004 on a separate HDD but don't expect any new addons for it. Toms survey will shed much light on this subject.
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