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A Departure Tutorial: NADP1 NGX

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Hi guys,

 

A far from perfect description, however the main points are there.

 

I sincerely hope you learn a thing or two [the intention ;) ] and if you like, do share around and sub for more!

 

Alex

 

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Nice One Al!

 

 

Rgds,

 

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Steve Summers

Very nice peace of work Alex !!

 

Keep new video's coming?

 

Rgds Robert

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NIce video. I was surprised that you don't arm V NAV.

J u l ia n D i a m a n d i s

 

 

Nice video. Two questions:

- why don't you use the fmc to program the ndap1 departure and use vnav?

- you set flaps 1 at passing 1 at the speedtape: i think that's not the correct procedure. You should set flaps 1 after accelerating above v2+20 and flaps up when you pass the 1 mark on the speedtape. Someone who knows what's the right procedure?

- you set flaps 1 at passing 1 at the speedtape: i think that's not the correct procedure. You should set flaps 1 after accelerating above v2+20 and flaps up when you pass the 1 mark on the speedtape. Someone who knows what's the right procedure?

You are correct. Select Flaps1 above the maneuvering speed and select F0 above the F1 speed.

Matt Cee

Cool video, thanks for sharing!

 

Dirty Leeds!!

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Nice video. Two questions:

- why don't you use the fmc to program the ndap1 departure and use vnav?

- you set flaps 1 at passing 1 at the speedtape: i think that's not the correct procedure. You should set flaps 1 after accelerating above v2+20 and flaps up when you pass the 1 mark on the speedtape. Someone who knows what's the right procedure?

You are correct. Select Flaps1 above the manoeuvring speed and select F0 above the F1 speed.

 

I am pretty sure passing the 1 marker is the point of retraction.

 

On the way down through decelerating you select flaps 5 before the marker

 

Alex

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Good video for newbies, but...

 

I am pretty sure passing the 1 marker is the point of retraction.

 

Procedures may vary in different airlines, but manuals suggest other procedure. FCOM vol1 NP.21.46, FCTM 3.32.

 

I noticed one more mistake. NADP 1 thrust reduction altitude is 800' AGL. In your video thrust reduction occurs at 1500AGL. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. http://forum.avsim.n...oked-into-this/ .

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I noticed one more mistake. NADP 1 thrust reduction altitude is 800' AGL. In your video thrust reduction occurs at 1500AGL.

That's variable. 1500 is quite common.

Matt Cee

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Good video for newbies, but...

 

 

 

Procedures may vary in different airlines, but manuals suggest other procedure. FCOM vol1 NP.21.46, FCTM 3.32.

 

I noticed one more mistake. NADP 1 thrust reduction altitude is 800' AGL. In your video thrust reduction occurs at 1500AGL. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. http://forum.avsim.n...oked-into-this/ .

That's variable. 1500 is quite common.

 

Did it really warrant a 'good for newbies'?

 

It can be 1500 but I am pretty sure it was set up as 800ft.

 

The reason I haven't done vnav is because it's easier to explain, show and it is how they do it at the SOP I am familiar with :). Vnav engaged after clean

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Super job Alex thanks for taking the time :)

 

Thanks dude!

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Clear, concise ... excellent narration. Very good tutorial video. Thanks, Alex.

Dennis Trawick

 

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Hi Alex

 

I'm sure this isn't the right way to do it, but I always engage VNAV and LNAV on the ground and engage autopilot whenever I'm ready ( I normally handfly to about 1000 ) and then A/T is managing speed.

 

Can you please explain the use of LVL CHG and the way you are manually managing speed during the departure? I'd like to start adapting my procedures to start flying more in line with how things would be done in the real world.

 

Cheers

Martin

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