December 4, 201213 yr Hi there! I'm seriuosly considering an upgrade from my existing system to an intel i5 system. The following specs are desired: - intel i5 3570k - an Z77 board ( would be glad for any advise ) - geforce gtx 650 - 8GB RAM - 600watts power - windows 7 64 bit - two SSD drives, with one exclusevely designated for FSX and it's add-ons My intention is to achieve at least a stable 25fps with sliders maxed out, PMDG 737NGX, PMDG 747X, PMDG MD11, complex scenery and weather add-ons ( such as Airports, REX, active sky evolution ). I WILL NOT utilize AI-Traffic at all, so here might be some performance-buffer for the system. Is it realistic to assume that the above specified system is able to achieve my performance requirements ( at least 25fps )??? Furthermore: as the system upgrade is kind of cost-intensive, I would only upgrade as long as it is assured that the new system is easily able to excel my previous system observeably. Otherwise it wouldnt make sense to me. My previous system: - AMD X2 6000+ 64bit - AM2 mainboard - 4GB RAM - geforce 8800GT 1 GB RAM With this system I'm currently able to achieve around 16fps when taxiing on a complex airport such as Anchorage X from Aerosoft ( PANC ), PMDG 747X, complex weather situation, and, as mentioned above, NO AI traffic. Many thanks in advance for your help Best regards Toto
December 4, 201213 yr You are good to go on that rig, smooth flight , you should also do some tweaks. Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
December 4, 201213 yr You should considering overclocking if you are capable. Even though my hard drive and video card are not as good as yours, my system, which is not overclocked, can barely maintain 24 frames per second at scenery settings 3/4 of the maximum with FSDT airports and the PMDG B747. I have performed tweaks applicable to my system, but have been unable to improve performance drastically.
December 4, 201213 yr 25fps with sliders maxed out, PMDG 737NGX, PMDG 747X, PMDG MD11, complex scenery and weather add-ons Not possible with any rig that I've ever seen.
December 4, 201213 yr Hi there! I'm seriuosly considering an upgrade from my existing system to an intel i5 system. The following specs are desired: - intel i5 3570k - an Z77 board ( would be glad for any advise ) - geforce gtx 650 - 8GB RAM - 600watts power - windows 7 64 bit - two SSD drives, with one exclusevely designated for FSX and it's add-ons My intention is to achieve at least a stable 25fps with sliders maxed out, PMDG 737NGX, PMDG 747X, PMDG MD11, complex scenery and weather add-ons ( such as Airports, REX, active sky evolution ). I WILL NOT utilize AI-Traffic at all, so here might be some performance-buffer for the system. Is it realistic to assume that the above specified system is able to achieve my performance requirements ( at least 25fps )??? Furthermore: as the system upgrade is kind of cost-intensive, I would only upgrade as long as it is assured that the new system is easily able to excel my previous system observeably. Otherwise it wouldnt make sense to me. My previous system: - AMD X2 6000+ 64bit - AM2 mainboard - 4GB RAM - geforce 8800GT 1 GB RAM With this system I'm currently able to achieve around 16fps when taxiing on a complex airport such as Anchorage X from Aerosoft ( PANC ), PMDG 747X, complex weather situation, and, as mentioned above, NO AI traffic. Many thanks in advance for your help Best regards Toto 25 fps, maxed sliders to right, (including water to 3 high and 100% vehicles, 100% boats, 100 air traffic, clouds HD (REX) with some complex scenery and complex airliner with shadows, with high setting iro antialiasing etc etc - qaulity graphics), I highly doubt that you will get the required 25 fps (FLUID) with the machine you mentioned. (Maybe on average, but highly unlikely to be constant 25 fluid, fps. Anyway, you will have to overclock that substantially to get close (standard - unlikely). Please buy and give us feedback. I would really like to see what you get with that machine according to your specs for settings/terrain/scenery/aircraft. After you have bought it fly into say "Vancouver airport" with ORBX PNW and Vancouver plus (for scenery), with the PMDG 737, with all FSX sliders to the right. With some REX HD "cloudy/Rainy" day, Really would be interesting to see what you get. and this scenario dont even have a proper highly detailed added "custom" vancouver airport. Sorry highly unlikely, but let the guys who have the hardware, come and post their findings. Maybe I need to sent my I7 (3770k) IB machine to one of the so called GURU's because I dont get 25 fps with my current rig with everything maxed to right as per your requirements.
December 4, 201213 yr If you want some serious FPS you need to overclock you CPU and if your thinking of doing that then don't got near the Ivy Bridge!! I Suggest the I5-2500K (runs absolutely fabulous), and the ASUS Z77 Sabertooth MOBO. My 2500K is at 5Ghz and never get any higher temperatures of 67 degrees Celsius on full load. FSX runs like a dream with everything set at Ultra high settings. I get no lower than 96 FPS and get 133FPS on average with heavy Sceneries such as Flytampa Dubai rebooted and FTX England etc.... PS make sure have the proper cooling equipment. I also suggest water cooling on your CPU which I also have. I keep my PC inside a cuboard with built in air conditioning (sounds strange heh!!) Lionel
December 4, 201213 yr I get no lower than 96 FPS and get 133FPS on average with heavy Sceneries such as Flytampa Dubai rebooted and FTX England etc.... Oh please, everything right, everything maxed.. traffic/boats/cars, shadows, With the PMDG 737 ORBX england, flying into heathrow.. I am not talking about the default cessna here in heavy scenery..! If that was the case why is anyone still tweaking machines..! even someone like Word Not Allowed who is most up to date with hardware etc etc.. and he also overclock his machine heavily. If that was the case you will not see any hardware forums ever being posted on and everybody would have upgraded to your I5 setup..!! I mean really.. come on..!! and yes I am overclocking to 4.8 (not quite there at your 5) and I dont see it on maxed out settings. Not possible with any rig that I've ever seen. Amen..! if there a machine being capable of this (25+fps, fluid, no stuttering, I will buy it tomorrow. conditions below) -Everything maxed. -Everything trafiic/boats/cars maxed -Shadows etc all clicked and selected -water maxed -With REX HD clouds, on cloudy rainy day -GPU set to full antialiasing etc etc (for max Quality - not performance) -Flying Heavy Airport like YMML (ORBX) -with PMDG 737 (oh maybe I need to have it send of because there is definitely something wrong with my machine)
December 4, 201213 yr Oh please, everything right, everything maxed.. traffic/boats/cars, shadows, With the PMDG 737 ORBX england, flying into heathrow.. I am not talking about the default cessna here in heavy scenery..! If that was the case why is anyone still tweaking machines..! even someone like Word Not Allowed who is most up to date with hardware etc etc.. if that was the case you will not see any hardware forums ever being posted and everybody would have upgraded to your I5 setup..!! I mean really.. come on..!! Amen..! I don't have a problem with people not agreeing with my claims.To be honest I only got those FPS when I overclocked to 5.6Ghz. 5.6 Isn't stable enough for a daily drive which is why I just keep myself to no more than 5.1Ghz.Doing so could basically fry the CPU and shorten its lifespan which isn't intelligent. The highest I ever got on FSX was 107fps on 5.6Ghz was when cruising without HD clouds on a default 747. My 2500K is at 5Ghz stable and never get any higher temperatures of 67 degrees Celsius on full load. I've once taken it all the way to 5.6Ghz but don't want to fry my CPU due to the High voltage required and isn't really a daily drive. I keep my PC inside a cupboard with built in air conditioning which is around 12-14 degrees Celsius inside there (sounds strange heh!!). The good thing about aircons is that they blow cool air and the fans blow them in rather than freezing up your motherboard unlike refrigerators. you can control it via a remote control unlike refrigerators. My Corsair H100 takes huge advantage of this due to the cool air released from the aircon which is around 9-13c which is then directly used to cool the liquid in the H100 in a proper manner to then cool the CPU. Anything lower than 5c would freeze your MOBO and HDD not make it function properl And btw I haven't seen any benchmarks of FSX running on 5.6Ghz so saying that "it isn't possible to get those FPS" would be very naive. It is possible but definitely not with REX clouds enabled and on a pmdg NGX aircraft. Lionel
December 4, 201213 yr It's not naive. These claims show up all the time, and have thoroughly been debunked. Randy Swofford
December 4, 201213 yr With no AI, I'd say it's definitely possible with an overclocked i5 and most (not all) sliders to the right. Real world CPL holder.
December 4, 201213 yr I get no lower than 96 FPS and get 133FPS on average with heavy Sceneries such as Flytampa Dubai rebooted and FTX England etc.... The highest I ever got on FSX was 107fps on 5.6Ghz was when cruising without HD clouds on a default 747. ok now what is your real fps you get as you seem to quote different figures here and what is your real fps -Everything maxed. -Everything trafiic/boats/cars maxed -Shadows etc all clicked and selected -water maxed -With REX HD clouds, on cloudy rainy day -GPU set to full antialiasing etc etc (for max Quality - not performance) -Flying Heavy Airport like YMML (ORBX) -with PMDG 737 Yeah I also get over 100 fps in FTX PNW away from cities in the fsx default planes. unfortunately that means nothing to me..!
December 4, 201213 yr ok now what is your real fps you get as you seem to quote different figures here and what is your real fps -Everything maxed. -Everything trafiic/boats/cars maxed -Shadows etc all clicked and selected -water maxed -With REX HD clouds, on cloudy rainy day -GPU set to full antialiasing etc etc (for max Quality - not performance) -Flying Heavy Airport like YMML (ORBX) -with PMDG 737 Yeah I also get over 100 fps in FTX PNW away from cities in the fsx default planes. unfortunately that means nothing to me..! This my FSX settings on 5.6Ghz OC: -Antialiasing off. -REX airport texture enabled -No clouds -Water maxed -Boats,cars and AI traffic all disabled -Global texture maxed out -Aircraft cast shadow off -Overclocked GPU -Dual GPU Overclocked -Overclocked DDR3 to 2.3Ghz -And everything else maxed out All these settings+5.6Ghz on cruise over the atlantic, I get min97 and max125FPS (PMDG 747-8F) On ground on Flytampa Dubai Rebooted with the exact same settings mentioned above+5.6Ghz, I get min69 and max 91 (daytime) Night-time: Min61 and max 84fps( Looking out the cockpit I get -6 less FPS on PMDG 737NGX) Lionel
December 4, 201213 yr FSX runs like a dream with everything set at Ultra high settings. I get no lower than 96 FPS and get 133FPS on average with heavy Sceneries such as Flytampa Dubai rebooted and FTX England etc.... :lol: Post some videos and show us your "performance".
December 4, 201213 yr -Antialiasing off. -REX airport texture enabled -No clouds -Water maxed -Boats,cars and AI traffic all disabled -Global texture maxed out -Aircraft cast shadow off -Overclocked GPU -Dual GPU Overclocked -Overclocked DDR3 to 2.3Ghz -And everything else maxed out Not having clouds or shadows will definitely make a difference. I wouldn't say maxed out should include default bloom, certain shadows (aircraft casts shadow on itself), and traffic, as these are not very realistic and can be substituted for the benefit of both performance and quality by payware counterparts. Perhaps ground and lighting shadows should be included in maxed out settings, though, as these actually enhance the realism of FSX. Regardless, your system specifications are quite impressive.
December 4, 201213 yr Post is pointed at Theboeing man Loading the PMDG NGX & Rex HD cloud texture is easily halfing your frames depending on your gfx.(If any clouds are present) Adding some other addons and AI traffic will reduce it with a couple more.. So I guess you will end up near 45 frames max and 30 min in dubai.. Which is VERY acceptable still.. Can you test?
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