I've made myself a little pro/con sheet but I would like some input from anyone who owns either model. Would you do it again or would you purchase the other product?

 

727 Pro

• 100/200/Cargo Models
  
• Many exterior animations
  
• Longer range + more pax
  
• Less heavy on frames the the DC-9?
  
• On sale for $9.99
  

727 Con

• Older model
  
• Failure simulation/wear and tear not as well depicted
  
• bugs...(though I do have Acceleration)
  
• Doesn't seem to be supported anymore
  

DC-9 Pro

• New model, still being actively supported
  
• Failures simulated very well
  
• HiRes
  
• Still in airline service with Delta
  

DC-9 Con

• No repaints (yet, and it's been out how many months?) unless you pay McPhat
  
• Only one model, no freighter
  
• $49.99 = 5x the 727 purchase
  

So what do you guys think?

Or get the CS 737? For a tenner you can't go wrong.

 

 

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I'll be interested to hear about the DC-9. I've debated that myself but have the same list of cons, and they are fairly substantial for me.

CS 727 is too old to make any sort of meaningful comparison with a 2012 release like the Coolsky DC-9.

 

If spending as little a possible is important, get the CS 727, it's not bad but does have awful flight dynamics, a really annoying bug with the sound, and the usual other CS niggley bugs.

 

If quality is what you want to buy into, the CoolSky DC-9 is in a different league. :wink:

I have the Coolsky MD-80 and it is excellent. The DC-9 is on my short list.

 

Billy Bluestar

Coolsky is a class act all around - MD80 is in all time top 5... I don't have the DC9 though...

 

After the Dreamfleet 727 - I don't think I would be happy with any other...

 

Regards,

Scott

DC-9.....If I were buying, no question about it. It looks very high quality

The dc-9 is much much better in every way than the captain 727 in my opinion. However, it does seem to have a number of problems of its own, the status of which I'm not really aware of because there are probably half a dozen interim unofficial patches out for it that all must be applied sequentially. I think the smartest consumer choice would be to forget about the 727 altogether, and perhaps hold off on the dc-9 for a while at least until an official service pack comes out and is incorporated into the baseline f1 download. And then see what people are saying. That is what I'm doing--I had it myself and returned it, thought a lot of things were well done, and a lot of things were not, but it might be something I would consider repurchasing depending on where it goes. Keep in mind that all of the hi-res texture stuff you have listed as 'Pros' is actually something you have to purchase extra.

Well i own both. I was a flight dynamics tester for the dc-9 during beta testing. It flys very well down to the numbers. I have dc-9-30 flight test data and performance charts. From takeoff ground roll to time to 100kts, the aircraft was tuned to the real world test numbers. I have the 727 and its very nice also. I used the flight dynamics mod from the CS727 forums and it flys close to the numbers. Flight dynamics is a deal breaker for me. The 727 auto pilot is a handfull, but the dc-9 autopilot operates very well. The mcphat paints are very nice to include the VC repaints. If i were you, i would purchase both if you can. The dc9s VC is very good. I rate them closely and give the 9 an edge. They both lack a full FMS, but ISG works well. I advise you to grab both. One thing to keep in mind is that the dc9 is new and is currently have active support in the dc9 forums. Either way, you don't lose out.

Rich.

I'd probably be all in on the DC-9 if the liveries were not in a strangle hold by McPhat. It's nice to have their projects as an option, but to semi-force you into plopping more money down for different paint jobs is not sitting very well with me.

I'd probably be all in on the DC-9 if the liveries were not in a strangle hold by McPhat. It's nice to have their projects as an option, but to semi-force you into plopping more money down for different paint jobs is not sitting very well with me.

 

I've heard a few folks mention that - what's the deal - no paint kit - or - are we prohibited from releasing paints ? Seems pretty dumb to me because half the enjoyment of this hobby if either painting what you want or finding the paint in a library that you want to fly... So McPhat is the only way to get paints - that would probably equal a "no sale" for me as well...

 

Regards,

Scott

Captainsim's 727 is $9.99 for only 24 hours and IMO it's cheap enough that I wouldn't worry too much about it. I spend more on sushi every week and the $9.99 sale only happens once a year. With regards to the DC-9, Flight1 offers a 30-day money back guarantee scheme so if you don't like it, get a refund. Still waiting for McPhat to release the repaint kit.

 

My advice would be: Get the DC-9, fly it for a bit and make a decision on whether you want to keep it or not before the Captainsim sale window closes. If you don't want it then buy the Captainsim 727 and sort out that Flight1 refund afterwards. For the DC-9 make sure you have a quick read through the customer support forums as well at s80.flight1.net

 

N.B. Alternatives for the 727 include the Dreamfleet 727 for FS9 or the upcoming (later this month) FlyJSim 727 for X-plane.

There are some serious (renders the plane unusable) graphical issues with the Coolsky DC9 that haven't been solved. They have been working to find a solution, but there is no promise that a solution will be found. If they can fix that problem, then hands down without a doubt it is the one to pick. The package, quality of systems and flight modeling are top notch-- like PMDG class. Flight1 has a refund program so it's worth a try... and who knows, maybe you won't have the graphical issues. Give it shot!!

Suggest you purchase both, CS727 for the discount and the DC9 to keep up with the Joneses. You can always return the DC9 if it is a lemon. Owning both all I can say is, CS727 over 100 hours logged, DC9 12 hours logged. Owned the 727 for 3x longer then the DC9 also.

 

Well i own both. I was a flight dynamics tester for the dc-9 during beta testing. It flys very well down to the numbers. I have dc-9-30 flight test data and performance charts. From takeoff ground roll to time to 100kts, the aircraft was tuned to the real world test numbers. I have the 727 and its very nice also. I used the flight dynamics mod from the CS727 forums and it flys close to the numbers. Flight dynamics is a deal breaker for me. The 727 auto pilot is a handfull, but the dc-9 autopilot operates very well. The mcphat paints are very nice to include the VC repaints. If i were you, i would purchase both if you can. The dc9s VC is very good. I rate them closely and give the 9 an edge. They both lack a full FMS, but ISG works well. I advise you to grab both. One thing to keep in mind is that the dc9 is new and is currently have active support in the dc9 forums. Either way, you don't lose out.

Rich.

 

Rich's experience is very similar to mine, other than the beta test phase.

 

Regards;

 

Fritz

I have the DC-9 and their 4th patch has fixed the graphical errors for me, so it's now a pretty amazing plane. Handles beautifully, thanks. Rick!

 

But for 10, I'll be getting the 727 for its pretty good looking flight deck.