Wow, I bought X-Plane 10 Global tonight, after dinking around with it for a very short time, I was STUNNED to see how smoothly it ran "right out of the box" in 64-bits! It comes in both 32 & 64 bit versions, but if you have a newer PC, you will undoubtedly want to play in the 64-bit 'beta' world (release 10.20). I was floored when I saw how good the overall experience was with ZERO add-ons. It is far superior to FSX au-natural - the vehicles and roads and overall scenery in X-Plane 10 demo area of Seattle, USA are simply incredible. The Space Needle at Seattle in XPX is very detailed and well-rendered, the rain and lightning effects are great, and you don't have to buy all manner of weather programs, upgraded textures and AI traffic - it's all 'built-in'. The flight dynamics of the default airplanes are pretty nice too, and I haven't even got my hardware configured perfectly yet.

 

If you're 'fed up' with Out-of-Memory errors, stutters, shimmering and the other painful elements along with endless tweaking of your system settings, I -strongly- recommend taking a spin in X-Plane 10 64-bits. It's like a breath of fresh air. Yes, there will be some setup/configuration to do, but once that's done, you're golden. It has DIRECT X 11 support built in!

 

For about the price of ONE FSX add-on, you can finally dump the troubles and start enjoying great looking simulation with great flight dynamics and no more of those OOMS and CTDS! If PMDG would release the NGX for X-Plane, I would be totally thrilled. Then, if I could talk VRinsight into writing X-Plane 10 driver interface, I'd probably pass out!

 

The freeway traffic is drop-dead gorgeous, the rendition of the roadways and vehicles blows FSX off the map. A TON of road traffic, far in excess of anything I've ever seen in FSX - and performance to die for. The key is 64-bits, uses all of your ram, if you have 16 GB or more and 64-bit Operating System (Vista or Windows 7) along with a multi-core CPU and decent GPU, you will be well rewarded if you try out the demo.

 

Check it out.

Amen. I feel you!

I know, at least that much if not more. It's a shame really. XPX is so close to being "perfect", it really just needs some crucial things that always get talked about. The flight model to be honest, is probably not the highest priority for the "majority" of simmers. They want something that adequately models real flight, having never flown for real, they really don't know any better. The "eye candy" is what is going to bring the "majority" of people on board, and it looks real nice, but could be substantially better.

 

Glen

 

 

 

Geof, I hear what your saying, and we hear it time and time again. But isn't it about time, with todays technology, someone raises the bar to a level where you don't need to use multiple simulators to get what you want. These programs have been around for over 30 years, you think someone could offer something that has "everything". If that means the cost might be $500, so be it, I'd pay in a heart beat instead of using multiple programs. We know it can be done, because between XPX, FSX, and the others, you could make the "perfect" sim. It can be done......

 

That won't happen any time soon (if ever). Too much $ would have to be invested for to little of a return. In the meantime, the only option is to use multiple sims, unless you're content on waiting well into the future for hoped for additions.......that may or may not materialize. Therefor, while one sim may blow the other out of the water for specific reasons, it certainly won't across the board, for everything having to do with flight. I'm just happy that people are still continuing to produce this "stuff". BTW--- flight dynamics & eye candy scenery, as well as aircraft graphics are a 50/50 for me. Flown for real, and had some of the best scenery in the world, below. :smile:

Didn't expect it would, was just hoping / dreaming. One reason why winter is the only time I spend flying on a computer, can't compare to MY real flying, rc planes and helicopters.

 

I don't mind spending money on useful / viable addons, have spent far too much on the Microsoft series over the years. Xplane could use some addons in keys areas, are they ever going to materialize, anyones guess.

 

Currently having fun in FSX with the Turbine Duke, Reality XP gauges, and SNOW on the ground. XPX will have to wait until spring when everything looks like a golf course again, oh wait, that's RC time again, guess XP will have to wait until next winter. Can only hope the ground is the proper WHITE colour by then ^_^ .

After leaving a life of snow and cold and scraping ice off the hangar ramp and shivering in extreme cold doing preflights/preheat,if I never see snow again except on the distant mountains that will be fine with me. I might warm up to it in the sim in a couple years-which is probably right time wise!

Didn't expect it would, was just hoping / dreaming. One reason why winter is the only time I spend flying on a computer, can't compare to MY real flying, rc planes and helicopters.

 

I don't mind spending money on useful / viable addons, have spent far too much on the Microsoft series over the years. Xplane could use some addons in keys areas, are they ever going to materialize, anyones guess.

 

Currently having fun in FSX with the Turbine Duke, Reality XP gauges, and SNOW on the ground. XPX will have to wait until spring when everything looks like a golf course again, oh wait, that's RC time again, guess XP will have to wait until next winter. Can only hope the ground is the proper WHITE colour by then ^_^ .

the only weird thing that bothers me about xp10 is how snow is already modeled falling from the sky(beautiful 3d snow) and sticking to your plane(payware) and blowing across the runway but we still don't have the textures for land, soon I hope. I also love how ice freezes up the windows on most of my payware planes and anti-ice melts it away.....awesome detail.

Interesting....I am sick of tweaking and guides and having a good system that the software is not optimized for.

 

I may have to look at this.

Interesting....I am sick of tweaking and guides and having a good system that the software is not optimized for.

 

I may have to look at this.

same here, I go back to fsx for 1-2 flights and end up shutting it down and hopping on xplane10. On a mid-high end pc with max settings, xp10 is just amazing! Do some research and watch some youtube videos to decide :drinks:

same here, I go back to fsx for 1-2 flights and end up shutting it down and hopping on xplane10. On a mid-high end pc with max settings, xp10 is just amazing! Do some research and watch some youtube videos to decide :drinks:

 

Yeah I may end up like you my friend as I enjoy DCS also.

Never really had a problem with FSX, and certainly don't with XPX. My Ati 6970 wasn't helping in either sim, GTX 670 4gb much better. Running DX10 in FSX now, and using Opus for weather (great program). Have applied all the tweaks and get constant 30fps (all scenery sliders full right) except in real heavy weather it will dip to 20, still flyable. Never ever had a OOM or any such problems with FSX. Throw money at it and it will run fine, oh, and it must be setup properly.

 

Like lots of stuff about XPX, but the look out the window this time of year really turns me off using it. I know, it's some kind of phobia, just can't accept all the green, when my world is all white.

 

Just did a flight from CYUL to CYXU in FSX and it was fantastic, not one issue, clouds / visibility and wind were spot on with Opus. It would be just as great or better in XPX if........

Well, I can tell you I have a SUBSTANTIAL investment into FSX, yes I bought Prepar3D as well, and yes, I have the VRinsight hardware toys all of which argue AGAINST XPX. Once I took a gander at the 64-bit XPX, it was if Santa Claus had gone online and provided me with the ultimate Christmas gift. No, it's not "perfect", but the fact that it just looks so darned pretty from JUMP- it literally blew me away. I'm more than WILLING to mess around with it and see if I can figure things out. The way it looks during night flight alone just knocked my socks off. The freeways and vehicles are SUPER-DENSE, we're talking LA Freeway type traffic jams with the red taillights reaching to the horizon crawling at a snail's pace... so much better and more realistic than FSX on even it's very best day. The blocky square terrain in FSX, the artifacts... the shimmers... you can have ALL of that. After spending real $$ on the 690 graphics card... I can attest that XPX VALIDATES the investment - while FSX it makes you feel like, wow, it's STILL not perfect. The occasional stutter, with 4.7GHZ OC CPU and dual-keppler GPU? Unacceptable. We can justify why this happens, and lament about the ancient code that underlies FSX, or we can open our eyes and ADMIT that Laminar has been hard at work the past 5 years and has made something totally NEW and VIABLE, and now offers "the entire World" (GLOBAL) on 8 (count them) EIGHT DVDS. I have seen teaser videos of some of the new add-on aircraft in the pipeline for XPX - a 777 I recently saw blew my socks off, and even the Dreamliner I saw was pretty cool looking. I'm excited about the possibilities of XPX, and it can only get better IMHO. For $69? Please- it was an instantaneous purchase. I totally feel anyone with a mid-range or better PC with 8GB or more of RAM and a 560 or higher graphics card will be totally justified and much happier if all they buy is BASIC XPX Global edition. They won't have to buy REX, GEX, UTX, yada-yada, and they won't have to worry about which scenery is stacked ahead of the other scenery, or listen for impending doom tones from FSUIPC (OOM warnings). Imagine flying all the time instead of tweaking your system endlessly. What would that be like? I found out... and yes, I had to futz around assigning buttons for my controllers. Bonus, XPX fully supports Precision Flight Controls hardware (Yokes/Throttle Quadrants/Rudder Sets) along with CH stuff and some others. Much like FSUIPC though, even my Warthog appears to handle most tasks, and yes, I've written a "please help" to VRinsight support begging for them to write an interface that will run their stuff in XPX.

 

I'm willing to bet that Captain Randazzo and the team over at PMDG will soon thrill us with an aircraft that works in XPX - and then I can die a happy man! Make PMDG for XPX and let me use my hardware controllers from VRinsight- it's ON!

 

Cheers to Laminar for gifting us with 64-bit technology right NOW - today. A dream come true!

Yes, it is nice, have been using XPX for almost 14 months, it's not new to most of us around here. FSX can run fine as well, like I said I've never had an issue with it, you need to know how to set it up, period. Helps if you can set your own system up as well. They both have their shortcomings, and the lack of seasonal textures in XPX for me is huge. Seeing as they both run fine on my system, I'll stick with the one that has winter textures. ^_^

XPX is on a OpenGL platform.

 

Sorry if I mis-spoke. Here's what came directly from the X-Plane 10 website as MINIMUM system requirements

 

X-Plane 10 requires, at the minimum,

• a 2 GHz, dual-core CPU,
  
• 2 GB of RAM,
  
• a DVD-ROM, and
  
• a DirectX 9.0c-capable video card with 128 MB of on-board, dedicated video RAM (VRAM). See here for graphics card compatibility.
  

However, for the best experience, we recommend the following:

• a 3 GHz, multi-core CPU (or, even better, multiple processors),
  
• 4 GB of RAM,
  
• a DVD-ROM, and
  
• a DirectX 10-capable (DX11 preferred) video card with 1 GB of on-board, dedicated VRAM.
  

X-Plane will take advantage of as many cores or distinct processors as you can afford. Having 16 cores split among 4 CPUs is not required by any means, but Version 10 would be able to use every one. No more than 4 GB of RAM is necessary, but the more VRAM you have, the better–X-Plane 10 can easily use 1.5 GB of VRAM at the maximum settings.

In order to use the full version of X-Plane, Disc 1 of the installation DVDs must be in your disc drive when launching the simulator. (This is not the case when using X-Plane for Professional Use; in that case, the USB key replaces the Disc 1 DVD.)

When running X-Plane on Linux, please note that you must install the proprietary Nvidia or AMD drivers. X-Plane will not run using Gallium or Mesa open-source drivers.

Note: X-Plane 10 does not support PowerPC-based Macs, or versions of OS X prior to 10.6.8.

What is the resolution of ground textures? Does it have something like TileProxy for FSX where I can use photoreal textures on the fly from Bing, at 30cm resolution?

 

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What is the resolution of ground textures? Does it have something like TileProxy for FSX where I can use photoreal textures on the fly from Bing, at 30cm resolution?

 

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Someone else will have to give you the resolutions, don't know, but the ground is very clear.

 

Here is a shot the other day from I think it was 15,000ft over CYXU London Ontario in the Jetstream 32 with max (extreme) settings, you can see how clear it is. Almost 70 fps (65.59 at 3840 x 1024, 3 monitors) as well, almost everything on max.

 

Where's the snow......

 

 

 

G2Xpl will give you photo real textures, kind of works like Tileproxy.

When Fly Tampa, FSDT, Aerosoft, PMDG, Real Air, start moving to XPlane, then I would seriously consider it.