February 7, 201313 yr Author RCITGuy, Are you running those 6 instrument panels via a second computer. I know they can be a process killer on a single. Rob"Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it"
February 7, 201313 yr REX clouds 4096 resolution need like super Graphics cards to chew that up. Most give up stick with 2048 or 1024. Clouds just use 512 size really prefer my water is pretty at higher resolution. No free lunch with fsx.
February 7, 201313 yr No PC out there can run "all sliders maxxed" in FTX with the NGX approaching FSDT CYVR in REX HD4096 clouds and Opus full overcast weather and so on... chances are the PC will have OOMed on you before you even got within 10nm of the runway threshold... You ask a question like "which slider" and you will get almost as many answers as there are sliders. Why? Because everyone has their own ideas as to what is acceptable. After reading Srdan's guide more than once, I have been looking for the sweet spot on my current build, i7 2700K at 4.6GHz with 16Gb 1600MHz RAM (9-9-9-27), on a GTX470 and FSX installed on a SSD. I can get solid performance, though I do not have any AI, I turned off ground road and ship traffic, I have UsePools=0 set so water is at 2.X high to avoid flashing... This is with 1024 SD cloud textures (they are sufficient for me) and Opus FSX (which I believe is a little heavier on performance, as I understand it uses more layers). I have decided to switch to faster RAM (2133Mhz rated at 1.5V instead of the 1.65V the RAM I currently have requires) and a new GPU, GTX670, so that the BufferPools tweak works better and I can run at better AA settings on a 1920X1080 monitor... I know the new components are not the Holy Grail, but I do know (after reading hours' worth of material here, some of which has been useful) that it will improve some of the issues. By reducing the number of RAM sticks, I also expect to be able to overclock the i7 2700K a little better. 4.6GHz isn't bad of course, but I know that 4,8GHz is definitely in there, especially if I am only addressing two of the 4 RAM banks and also at a lower voltage within the official reference range for the memory controller in the i7 2000 series CPUs... Thanks Srdan for all the tips and comments, your guide is more or less my one stop shop these days... but thanks also to all the others, unnamed unfortunately, as there are too many of you! A Andrew Entwistle
February 7, 201313 yr and I had everything maxed except 20% on all 3 AI, FPS set to 24, everything was super smooth flying in a storm over central London, and the minute I installed ORBX:ENG it all went to ######... Me and ORBX are done, for good! It's NOT ORBX, it's YOUR ignorance with the sliders.
February 7, 201313 yr My PC is fairly similar to yours in terms of speed and capabilities, and I had everything maxed except 20% on all 3 AI, FPS set to 24, everything was super smooth flying in a storm over central London, and the minute I installed ORBX:ENG it all went to ######... Me and ORBX are done, for good! I'm pretty sure it's not (only) ORBX's fault, I have ORBX ENG around London at good FPS (could probably be even better if I adjusted my sliders, but then again I don't want to mess around with the sliders all the time, just because I might occasionally come into a heavier area, as long as I don't only get a slide show). ORBX London just adds too great a workload on the computer, with everything maxed out, and 24% AI can really be quite much in that area, too. It's NOT ORBX, it's YOUR ignorance with the sliders. As I pointed out above, I agree with you, Scarlett. Nevertheless, I would've tried to put in a way that sound a little less harsh(don't want to sound like a mod, it's just my feeling, I think I might be a little offended by that wording, if it were pointed at me). Regards, Flo Florian
February 7, 201313 yr True Flo 20% AI and "everythign maxed out" over OrbX London is going to place even a 5GHz monster with GTX690 into a major sweat... particularly in heavy weather (think of the cloud and visibility layers), even with SD 1024 textures. I mean, you switch off half of that stuff and have higher levels of antialiasing with those clouds, like 2 or 4X SGSS and so on, things start slowing down rather quickly over OrbX London... I was checking out my new purchases of Goodwood and Stapleford in FTX_EU ENG a few days ago. I left Goodwood in the RealAir Lancair, all fine with moderate weather and clouds, marginal VFR I would say... tracking up towards London, things started to bog down a little. It was only when I had Stapleford in sight that the framerate got up back to near 30 again... It didn't dip below 20 really, but that was a net loss of 33% in FPS... and that is on the system I described above... autogen set to dense... no road/boat or aircraft AI traffic and so on... We are often quick to blame single developers, when we ourselves are often the problem. We want more and more from a setup that is inherently limited... Best to step back and assess what the actual problem is before posting... A Andrew Entwistle
February 7, 201313 yr We are often quick to blame single developers, when we ourselves are often the problem. We want more and more from a setup that is inherently limited... Best to step back and assess what the actual problem is before posting... A This is so true though it is human nature to always want more. If it's one thing my 7 months of playing FSX has taught me is the value of compromise and accepting that there are things that I am simply unable to do with my limited hardware and knowledge of FSX tweaking. Funny enough, it was this thread that got me to look at my settings and after reducing a couple of sliders 1 or 2 notches, I was able to fly the F1 Citation Mustang on my test route (Orbx PNW/KHQM to CYYJ with REX clouds) with solid mid-20's FPS and with little stuttering. Those same settings with the RealAir Turbine Duke gave me nearly solid 30FPS for the entire flight. Lesson learned...... Chris Magnus HR Manager Air Jamaica Virtual Airlines and Cargo (http://www.airjamaicavirtualairlinesandcargo.org)
February 7, 201313 yr I would've tried to put in a way that sound a little less harsh After COUNTLESS times I have been approached on how to solve "CTD" errors due to people "maxing" out sliders, and attempting to run everything under the sun, and then complaining it's the developer's fault, it really gets annoying when people don't get it, and don't *want* to get it, and then keep coming to Avsim for "help".
February 7, 201313 yr After COUNTLESS times I have been approached on how to solve "CTD" errors due to people "maxing" out sliders, and attempting to run everything under the sun, and then complaining it's the developer's fault, it really gets annoying when people don't get it, and don't *want* to get it, and then keep coming to Avsim for "help". I really get your point, and I totally agree with you, as I said before. I guess most everyone of us has a certain kind of topic when he/she thinks "oh no, not that again". However, it's never only what you say, but more importantly how you say it. I too think that bashing developers is not the right thing, when it's obviously not their fault, but on the other hand I think that Avsim's exactly for exchanging opinions, and if someone thinks that ORBX is bad because he can't run it on max settings, so be it. Everyone is entitled to his opinion, and IMHO everyone may ask every single question there is, and if you're annoyed by some questions, just dont answer them. Others will help out for sure. Regards, Flo Florian
February 7, 201313 yr it's never only what you say, but more importantly how you say it. I would never intentionally be rude to someone who has no idea what is means to even "turn your slider down", but when they refuse to do what I've asked and they contine to post and blame others is when it gets to me.
February 7, 201313 yr Obscure old sci-fi pun alert.... Which Slider has the most impact? Professor Arturo of course... he's by far the heaviest of the group... Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
February 7, 201313 yr It's NOT ORBX, it's YOUR ignorance with the sliders. WOW, you really know how to be a b***h huh... Considering you didn't have all the facts... When I installed ORBX, I followed their instructions, to the letter! Turned all my sliders DOWN to what they said was ok for 4GHz+, and even turned them down a LOT further, but had nothing but issues with it, which i did highlight in a VERY lengthy thread elsewhere, which you seemingly have not seen... But hey ho, thanks for being polite about it and not blurting out any old insult that fell out of your head... New I might be, IGNORANT I'm not. I know what the sliders are, what they do and the impact they have... My point was that UNTILL orbx met my system, they were all maxed out and everything was perfectly smooth locked at 24fps.. Seriously, bursting into threads the way you do just so you can rant at people to "TURN THE FECKIN SLIDERS DOWN" is really, really rude.... Some might even say ignorant of how to speak to others less blessed with your knowledge.. I hope people don't talk to you like that... Oh, nope, of course they don't because you know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING! Richard... Amateur Pilot and UK Web Hosting Guru 🙂
February 7, 201313 yr So to get back on topic, what was the majority opinion as to which slider has the biggest impact? I'll throw my 2p worth in In terms of memory and hence oom's I'll say level of detail. For performance as in fps I would have to say ai traffic, cars, airlines, and ga traffic. From my testing boats make little or no difference. Obviously this would be on a default install, I have never owned any orbx products, uk2000, fsglobal and others I have installed seem to have only minor impacts. Mytraffic results in much longer load times, even on a Hsdl ssd drive, but only moderate fps impacts. Ian R Tyldesley
February 7, 201313 yr Commercial Member WOW, you really know how to be a b***h huh... Considering you didn't have all the facts... When I installed ORBX, I followed their instructions, to the letter! Turned all my sliders DOWN to what they said was ok for 4GHz+, and even turned them down a LOT further, but had nothing but issues with it, which i did highlight in a VERY lengthy thread elsewhere, which you seemingly have not seen... But hey ho, thanks for being polite about it and not blurting out any old insult that fell out of your head... New I might be, IGNORANT I'm not. I know what the sliders are, what they do and the impact they have... My point was that UNTILL orbx met my system, they were all maxed out and everything was perfectly smooth locked at 24fps.. Seriously, bursting into threads the way you do just so you can rant at people to "TURN THE FECKIN SLIDERS DOWN" is really, really rude.... Some might even say ignorant of how to speak to others less blessed with your knowledge.. I hope people don't talk to you like that... Oh, nope, of course they don't because you know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING! Wow, I really don't see where she could be calling you an ignorant. She said your ignorance regarding the usage of sliders. I don't see her calling you an ignorant. People really are sensitive nowadays, yet you counteract by calling her a B, a H and bypassing a filter by changing a letter on a cuss word? I mean, really? Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
February 7, 201313 yr Author In terms of memory and hence oom's I'll say level of detail. For performance as in fps I would have to say ai traffic, cars, airlines, and ga traffic. From my testing boats make little or no difference. Mytraffic results in much longer load times, even on a Hsdl ssd drive, but only moderate fps impacts. That's an interesting approach to the question. I really like that answer. Memory FPS Hits Load times Thanks Rob"Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it"
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