Airbus discussions these days produce 'heat'.

 

I own AXE, and 2 airbus add ons for FS9 and dont have BBS. Soon BBS may become one of the best airbus add ons, and by the time AXE is complete with their v1.05, I personally believe A320 standard will have been set, as both AXE and BBS stated they would work on 330.

 

FSL has been idle too long, they'll lose the moment. Even if they finally create an excellent A320, some may not care that much, as they are flying T7 and or complete AXE/BBS's A320. I am not saying the first move advantage determines success, but playing too safely (which is boring like Italian football) could cost them losing "airbus starvation" moment.

 

FSL has been idle too long, they'll lose the moment. Even if they finally create an excellent A320, some may not care that much, as they are flying T7 and or complete AXE/BBS's A320. I am not saying the first move advantage determines success, but playing too safely (which is boring like Italian football) could cost them losing "airbus starvation" moment.

 

I think FSLabs A320 will likely be so superior to both of these current ones in terms of realism that most people will buy it anyway.

Yeah I don't think it matters the FSL one will be out last it will still be the most realistic.

Yeah I don't think it matters the FSL one will be out last it will still be the most realistic.

So true... and I believe it will blow away the competition... even if people (like me) already purchased 1 or 2 airbus...

I agree totally agree. I wasn't saying FSL would be not realistic or buggy. But you guys forget one thing that you are now actually believing 'word', again, I wasn't saying FSL wouldn't be able to deliver us to the moon, but they simply don't exist yet. That's one fact you and I cannot deny. Assumption is still an assumption. What prove can we have?

 

Unlike PMDG, when they stated they would make an excellent 777, we mostly believe since they have proven with previous legendary add ons.

 

FSL is no more than just a plan, no matter how complex and promising it is, it is not here yet.

 

Well, I'm way off course. So, BBS will be one of promising add ons, as well as AXE, especially as soon as they clean up the 'mess' they have.

Well FSLabs released the most realistic Concorde addon ever made for FS some years ago, to me that's enough to prove that there's something real behind them and their plans.

Not to mention that their lead developer used to be the lead developer at PMDG, developing legendary addons like the PMDG MD11 and the 747

I am looking towards FSLab as well, they have a large team with people that have solid resume indeed! And as they also go the hardcore simulation way, I will very likely purchase their Bus as well when it is released. The reason I dont purchase AXE simply because they make it clear from the beginning that they aim at medium, not hardcore. BBS are not there yet, but they are doing well and they aim at hardcore as well. Competition is always good right, hope that we will eventually a rocknroll airbus for FSX.

 

Back to BBS Bus, here I made a full flight video. And not being related to BBS in anyway other than a normal customer, you guys can freely see for yourselves what it has and what it doesnt (or hasnt yet) (Note: you can see the Oil PSI issue with the IAE while I firing up the engines, with CFM no issue, actually I used IAE first until taxi and CFM for take off till landing as I messed up during the two phases ). Also I am not sure the climb rate is correct like in real life, because I "feel" that it is like a slow climber (as least compared to version 0.6). And sorry for the clumsy landing . Enjoy weekend . 

 

 How about the graphics, is it as super as the  AXE? Or, atleast like the PMDG 737? I really don't mind it doesn't show if the oil pressure show, but I do care that it flies nicely and that it has outstanding graphics...does it ?

 

 

I am looking towards FSLab as well, they have a large team with people that have solid resume indeed! And as they also go the hardcore simulation way, I will very likely purchase their Bus as well when it is released. The reason I dont purchase AXE simply because they make it clear from the beginning that they aim at medium, not hardcore. BBS are not there yet, but they are doing well and they aim at hardcore as well. Competition is always good right, hope that we will eventually a rocknroll airbus for FSX.

 

Back to BBS Bus, here I made a full flight video. And not being related to BBS in anyway other than a normal customer, you guys can freely see for yourselves what it has and what it doesnt (or hasnt yet) (Note: you can see the Oil PSI issue with the IAE while I firing up the engines, with CFM no issue, actually I used IAE first until taxi and CFM for take off till landing as I messed up during the two phases ). Also I am not sure the climb rate is correct like in real life, because I "feel" that it is like a slow climber (as least compared to version 0.6). And sorry for the clumsy landing . Enjoy weekend . 

 

Now, this guy can use reasoning; this is a good reason to be smart!

 

I agree totally agree. I wasn't saying FSL would be not realistic or buggy. But you guys forget one thing that you are now actually believing 'word', again, I wasn't saying FSL wouldn't be able to deliver us to the moon, but they simply don't exist yet. That's one fact you and I cannot deny. Assumption is still an assumption. What prove can we have?

Unlike PMDG, when they stated they would make an excellent 777, we mostly believe since they have proven with previous legendary add ons.

FSL is no more than just a plan, no matter how complex and promising it is, it is not here yet.

Well, I'm way off course. So, BBS will be one of promising add ons, as well as AXE, especially as soon as they clean up the 'mess' they have.

 

I agree totally agree. I wasn't saying FSL would be not realistic or buggy. But you guys forget one thing that you are now actually believing 'word', again, I wasn't saying FSL wouldn't be able to deliver us to the moon, but they simply don't exist yet. That's one fact you and I cannot deny. Assumption is still an assumption. What prove can we have?

Unlike PMDG, when they stated they would make an excellent 777, we mostly believe since they have proven with previous legendary add ons.

FSL is no more than just a plan, no matter how complex and promising it is, it is not here yet.

Well, I'm way off course. So, BBS will be one of promising add ons, as well as AXE, especially as soon as they clean up the 'mess' they have.

I agree totally agree. I wasn't saying FSL would be not realistic or buggy. But you guys forget one thing that you are now actually believing 'word', again, I wasn't saying FSL wouldn't be able to deliver us to the moon, but they simply don't exist yet. That's one fact you and I cannot deny. Assumption is still an assumption. What prove can we have? Unlike PMDG, when they stated they would make an excellent 777, we mostly believe since they have proven with previous legendary add ons.FSL is no more than just a plan, no matter how complex and promising it is, it is not here yet.Well, I'm way off course. So, BBS will be one of promising add ons, as well as AXE, especially as soon as they clean up the 'mess' they have.

They did deliver probably one of the most complex airliners in Fsx, the Concorde. I think we are all going by what they have delivered and the people behind the company. There is good reason to have high expectations.

They did deliver probably one of the most complex airliners in Fsx, the Concorde. I think we are all going by what they have delivered and the people behind the company. There is good reason to have high expectations.

True but that doesn't mean they will deliver an Airbus. LDS delivered a 767, one of the deepest a/c... still waiting for the 757

 

They did deliver probably one of the most complex airliners in Fsx, the Concorde. I think we are all going by what they have delivered and the people behind the company. There is good reason to have high expectations.

True but that doesn't mean they will deliver an Airbus. LDS delivered a 767, one of the deepest a/c... still waiting for the 757

What LDS did has nothing to do with FSL. Different companies, different times, what has LDS got to do with FSL?

 

My point is that FSL appear to have some serious programming expertise behind their brand, and they already released a "classic". They have announced the depth of simulation for their A320 and considering they delivered there is no reason to doubt it. LDS never posted screenshots of their 757, did they? FSL just posted a new one of their A320.

 

Back on topic, will the BBS version 0.7 form the basis of their expected A330 release?

True but that doesn't mean they will deliver an Airbus

:smile:

I've start keeping my eye on this BBS as a possible alternative until Messrs Wilson and Kalamaras set their release date.

 

Just as an observation, the ND seems to be a bit of a bogey for the BBS and AXE? A couple of little glitches here and there.

No. It is not as pretty as AXE. No, it is not as system intensive as the PMDG 737.Yes, it flies beautifully. Yes, it's stable. Yes, the autopilot is very good. Yes, there are still a lot of bugs that have to be ironed out. Yes, it is updated very regularly. Yes, BBS are coming out with the only A330 that will be on the market for the next year or two, so either people can stop being nitpicky or they can enjoy what will be the best A330 you will have for a while. 

 

As for the A320, I've already made my position clear about it. It's great, and is, IMO, equal to the AXE at this moment. The developers are great and take user opinion seriously and are continuously updating their products. I've spent 30 euros on worse things and I'm perfectly fine flying this until the FSLabs comes out. Honestly I'm tired of waiting and waiting and waiting for things in the FSX world. Yes the PMDG 777 and FSL A320 will be amazing but I can't wait for years for these things. That's just my opinion though. Until then I will be happily flying the BBS Airbus