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No Love For Default Aircraft?

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My reasoning is frame rates and ooms. I use payware twins like the Twin Otter and BN-2 Islander, as well as various Carenado planes and the A2A Cherokee and 172, but I like my traffic at high levels as a trainee pilot would experience it, so I do fly some default models to keep ooms and fps crashes at bay.

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  • Nathan3219
    Nathan3219

    The default Cessna C172 and Cessna Caravan are excellent planes.

  • Nuno Pinto
    Nuno Pinto

    I deleted everything except the Bell206, probably because i have no experience with helicopters and that one "flies well" for my needs

I really like the default 172, and the A-321 isn't bad.  Additionally, I fly the 737 with optional liveries.  I really don't think the default aircraft are all that bad. 

 

Stan

I fly default on occasion in both FS9 and FSX. Love the Ford Trimotor, Cessnas, Maule, DC3s, and the FSX jetliners are just fine.

For me, FS9 and FSX are aviation simulators. I get to play airline pilot, cargo pilot, bush pilot, and with FS9 Golden Wings/Cal Classics, I fly in the 1930s/40s era. The default planes definitely have their place in my FS universe.

Now I have my own homebuild cockpit set-up (GA), I'm even switching back from the Carenado Caravan to the default Caravan, I am not convinced by Carenado's flight dynamics that don't seem to have the speed needed, and incredible power on the ground. I see others on forums have the same ideas. Using my 2D view I don't need to look at the VC - so the flight characteristics are paramount!

The default DC-3? Not the worst virtual cockpit in the world,

 

Amen to this.  Everything seems wrong in the VC.  I will defend the default  Maule, Beaver, and Goose as pretty darn good but not RealAir or A2A quality.

One of the issues with the DC-3 is that every company that ordered DC-3's had switches, radios, and instruments placed in different places.  This makes for a difficult situation when modeling the DC-3, namely, where do you position the switches and instruments.  MS actually got a lot wrong with their DC-3 and I highly recommend Manfred Jahn's C-47 as a freeware replacement.  Version 1 still uses the MS DC-3 VC, but Manfred did give it a better eye viewpoint, a nose cone, and full left and right wings with engines and props when looking through the windows of the VC.  His Version 2 C-47 uses the very modern cockpit from his Basler BT-67.

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One of the issues with the DC-3 is that every company that ordered DC-3's had switches, radios, and instruments placed in different places.  This makes for a difficult situation when modeling the DC-3, namely, where do you position the switches and instruments.  MS actually got a lot wrong with their DC-3 and I highly recommend Manfred Jahn's C-47 as a freeware replacement.  Version 1 still uses the MS DC-3 VC, but Manfred did give it a better eye viewpoint, a nose cone, and full left and right wings with engines and props when looking through the windows of the VC.  His Version 2 C-47 uses the very modern cockpit from his Basler BT-67.

 

Some of the the folks over at SOH were working on an updated 'vintage' VC for Manfred's C-47v2, but lost a couple of the key Gauge programmers. Others have gone a different direction, and have done some mods to the default VC which seem to work OK...

 

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?84263-Attention-all

 

Note: The link starts at the most recent posts; you will have to page through to find the start of the VC discussion.

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