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I'm having a really bad experience and need to remove files from my SSd Drive before an os reinstall. I'm trying to find emails with passwords and keys and receipts and about 407 different ways from Tuesday regarding info required to reactivate my payware. Ok, maybe I need to attend to this area. Has any really nice person written any software that can organize all this stuff? I've got all this info spread across 6 drives.

 

Jon

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I just keep all of my serial numbers , software keys etc. etc on a list which I keep on an exterior back up drive and on a DVD disk that way I always have two backups of all the info I need. I also have a shortcut to the backup drive on my tool bar so they are always quickly available. Hope this helps.....................John

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Easiest way is to print your purchase reciept, with the product activation code, and stick it in a 3-ring binder  :P

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I have it saved in Notepad, backed up onto a USB and also created a folder in my email to save them in also.

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I just keep all of my serial numbers , software keys etc. etc on a list which I keep on an exterior back up drive and on a DVD disk that way I always have two backups of all the info I need. I also have a shortcut to the backup drive on my tool bar so they are always quickly available. Hope this helps.....................John


 



Easiest way is to print your purchase reciept, with the product activation code, and stick it in a 3-ring binder :P

I envy people who are organised. I was holding the door open when they handed it out. What? You mean, actually put it all in the one place and you mean employ that little used form of communication, handwriting. That's quite brilliant. I have so much to do. I must remember to record these things before I open the newly purchased product. Another downside of multiple boot systems and email clients on each one.

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I search my gmail for the product in question. Has saved me many times. Also a lot of the sellers, like sim market, has a list of all my purchases in my account page.

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I'm having a really bad experience and need to remove files from my SSd Drive before an os reinstall. I'm trying to find emails with passwords and keys and receipts and about 407 different ways from Tuesday regarding info required to reactivate my payware. Ok, maybe I need to attend to this area. Has any really nice person written any software that can organize all this stuff? I've got all this info spread across 6 drives.

 

Jon

 

 

I have an FSAddon folder that I keep subfolders of all payware companies.  Within those folders I have the installers and keys.  Years ago I learned my lesson by not keeping this stuff organized.

 

All developers especially Flight1 offer easy ways to retrieve what you bought.  Flight1 and Simmarket are the best, it's very easy to get keys to your purchases...

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I just copy and paste the receipt/SN into Evernote. Since it's cloud based, have an instant offsite backup, and of course, its super easy to find said key when I need it :)

(With OneNote and Outlook there's even an option built in to export out to OneNote, but I prefer Evernote overall)

 

In fact, Evernote and OneNote are used to store just about any relevant or useful electronic snippet I may need to refer back to (cfg tweaks, reg hacks, tutorials, scripts, Excel formulae, shared recipe book and on and on and on)...

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I like to misplace them, hunt around for days, and then open support tickets and have to give personal info to get new/old ones back.

 

The man way.

 

 

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I keep mine on a harddrive, in the folder with the product installer as a .txt file.  If I want to install an addon, the key is always with it in the same folder with a text file that reminds me what version is installed already.

Also, I buy most my stuff from Simmarket or other similar vendors who are willing to keep my downloads and keys indefinitely.  If a vendor doesn't keep the downloads and keys, I go somewhere else to buy.

I never (or I should say, very rarely) buy anything on DVD for FSX or X-Plane 10.

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I use the simple database in Microsoft Works.  That way I can sort and find anything I need almost instantly.  This applies to FSX serial numbers and all the passwords and usernames for the dozens websites I like to visit.

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Keep them on my email. Separate folder labeled "Flightsim downloads". Works like a charm.

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I like to misplace them, hunt around for days, and then open support tickets and have to give personal info to get new/old ones back.

 

The man way.

 

 

Sent from my Apple communications device.

That's the way. This is my method. It's just that the amount of payware I have now has grown like topsy while I wasn't looking and I'ts becoming a chore at re-install time. I've had dual boot systems with email on each one. I'm beginning to think the only good dual boot system is an os on seperate networked computers. That's where this system is going.

 

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I make separate folders for the product downloads.  Then I print product keys/order confirmations to Acrobat (pdf) files and keep a copy in the respective download folders, and also copy them to a folder on a thumb drive dedicated to FSX files.  My system also has front-panel slide-in hard drive bays and that allows me to cold swap backup drives of the identical model to my primary drive.  Seagate Disk Wizard allows me to clone my primary drive to the slide-in drives, which I rotate a minimum of once a month.  I have a total of three.  I verify the clones as fully bootable once made by changing my BIOS boot drive options.

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Keep them on my email. Separate folder labeled "Flightsim downloads". Works like a charm.

What happens if you lose your hard drive?

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What happens if you lose your hard drive?

 

That would suck. But I don't see why it would affect the addon keys. 

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I just copy and paste the receipt/SN into Evernote. Since it's cloud based, have an instant offsite backup, and of course, its super easy to find said key when I need it :)

(With OneNote and Outlook there's even an option built in to export out to OneNote, but I prefer Evernote overall)

 

In fact, Evernote and OneNote are used to store just about any relevant or useful electronic snippet I may need to refer back to (cfg tweaks, reg hacks, tutorials, scripts, Excel formulae, shared recipe book and on and on and on)...

The Cloud. Now, that's a good idea. My headlong leap into the new millennium hasn't embraced this aspect. My thoughts were that, in the Cloud, I would risk the forces of evil naughty men stealing my NGX key. I'll check it out.

 

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I control them........

 

But I have found that the addons that tend to make me work the hardest at it are the ones that are not re-installed later. I would say that keeping track of keys and updates is one of the number one reasons why my purchases have become so sporadic.

 

When the almost inevitable re-install eventually occurs, it just becomes more and more annoying to dig through all of that stuff. (Bleah)  :unsure:

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 My system also has front-panel slide-in hard drive bays and that allows me to cold swap backup drives of the identical model to my primary drive
I've got 2 at the front of my new box. Technology begins to move too fast for this old mind but apparently they're 6 gbps. Is that good?...and let me assure you in the most vehemently possible way, that ' mine is bigger than your's'. This case is both the most stupid and best thing I've ever done. Cooler Master Cosmos 2. It didn't come on casters but should have. 49 lbs. Empty.

 

To be hot swappable does the drive need to be any special type? ie Can it be done with older sata drives?

 

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That would suck. But I don't see why it would affect the addon keys. 

No! Do not speak its name. I don't have it backed-up, yet. My life from here on out is back-up city. I can't organize FSX and in my new system I have 3 Flight Simulators, 2 of which I have not yet defiled.. Time to take the pledge and back-up my back-ups.

 

Jon

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I've got 2 at the front of my new box. Technology begins to move too fast for this old mind but apparently they're 6 gbps. Is that good?...and let me assure you in the most vehemently possible way, that ' mine is bigger than your's'. This case is both the most stupid and best thing I've ever done. Cooler Master Cosmos 2. It didn't come on casters but should have. 49 lbs. Empty.

 

To be hot swappable does the drive need to be any special type? ie Can it be done with older sata drives?

 

Jon

 

LOL! First, you can read my system specs in the sidebar. No OC, no water cooling, system now almost two years old. Cannot do anything about hyperthreading (if I wanted to) as there is no option in BIOS. Nice Gateway gaming system but not up-to-today re: performance.

 

In regard to swappable drives.... You might read my post again. Cold swap (system off), not hot swap. Can it be done with older sata drives? Not sure. It is dependent on the size and position of the sata and power ports on the back of the drive. The drives snap into a poly cradle with handle before sliding them in. They have to line up, and I am not sure what to look for in terms of drive description. What I did was ID the specific model of the 1.5 TB Seagate drive in my system (screw in bay/cabled) and ordered two of that identical model from Amazon. So at that time I had the primary wired drive and two to clone. Once I clone I do not leave the clone in the bay. It goes on the shelf in the closet. Early this year I upgraded from the Radeon 6750 1 GB vidcard that came in the system to an EVGA nVidia Gtx560TI OC 2GB. Since I have a three year warranty on the system I cloned the primary before making the vidcard swap, and locked that clone away in case I ever need it for warranty purposes (swap the Radeon back in). At that time I ordered another (3rd) drive to use as a clone. So I still maintain  two ongoing clones. One up to 30 days old and the other up to 60 days old.

 

Great protection for all the hours I have into everything. Email, personal finance, and especially the hundreds of hours I have into FSX. DL's, add-ons, repaints, panels, MSE sceneries, etc. Also great protection from viruses, maleware, and Windows Update (LOL). (yes, I do have a top tier AV program as well as MalwareBytes).

 

Staying true to the topic under discussion, this is how I safeguard not only all of my installation keys, but also how I safeguard all of the time and effort I have invested in my overall installed FSX flying environment.

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I'm in the notepad club myself. I was in the same boat and didn't keep any track whatsoever of my serials and downloads, so I learned this lesson the hard way a few years ago. It took days to get it all together, but once I did I created a simple notepad file organized by developer, in alphabetical order with the addons in alphabetical order beyond that. After 3 full reinstalls (2 due to system changes), I can say it was the best decision I ever made in this hobby.

 

I simply picked up a 1 TB external HDD, and everytime I purchase an addon, I save the file to my desktop and my HDD, and update the notepad list on both the desktop and the HDD. The files on the HDD are seperated into Aircraft, Scenery, and Other (FSUIPC, AS2012, AccuFeel, etc). Then, inside those folders the addons are seperated by developers. You can even go farther than that in organization, for instance in my Aerosoft scenery folder I have it seperated by regions (Germany, Greece, etc.).

 

Lastly, I keep a second notepad list of what I have installed already to keep track.

 

It does take time to get started, but it is welllllll worth the effort. Made those horrible reinstalls a great deal less of a pain, and lets you pick and choose what to install when.

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LOL! First, you can read my system specs in the sidebar. No OC, no water cooling, system now almost two years old. Cannot do anything about hyperthreading (if I wanted to) as there is no option in BIOS. Nice Gateway gaming system but not up-to-today re: performance.

 

In regard to swappable drives.... You might read my post again. Cold swap (system off), not hot swap. Can it be done with older sata drives? Not sure. It is dependent on the size and position of the sata and power ports on the back of the drive. The drives snap into a poly cradle with handle before sliding them in. They have to line up, and I am not sure what to look for in terms of drive description. What I did was ID the specific model of the 1.5 TB Seagate drive in my system (screw in bay/cabled) and ordered two of that identical model from Amazon. So at that time I had the primary wired drive and two to clone. Once I clone I do not leave the clone in the bay. It goes on the shelf in the closet. Early this year I upgraded from the Radeon 6750 1 GB vidcard that came in the system to an EVGA nVidia Gtx560TI OC 2GB. Since I have a three year warranty on the system I cloned the primary before making the vidcard swap, and locked that clone away in case I ever need it for warranty purposes (swap the Radeon back in). At that time I ordered another (3rd) drive to use as a clone. So I still maintain  two ongoing clones. One up to 30 days old and the other up to 60 days old.

 

Great protection for all the hours I have into everything. Email, personal finance, and especially the hundreds of hours I have into FSX. DL's, add-ons, repaints, panels, MSE sceneries, etc. Also great protection from viruses, maleware, and Windows Update (LOL). (yes, I do have a top tier AV program as well as MalwareBytes).

 

Staying true to the topic under discussion, this is how I safeguard not only all of my installation keys, but also how I safeguard all of the time and effort I have invested in my overall installed FSX flying environment.

A very interesting post. So, you could take one of the clones and drop it straight into a new os provided it  is the same generation, without going through all this anxt. What a dream way to upgrade to better hardware. I'm with you here

 

Jon

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Staying true to the topic under discussion, this is how I safeguard not only all of my installation keys, but also how I safeguard all of the time and effort I have invested in my overall installed FSX flying environment.
After reading your post. Have you any ambitions to run the Dept. of Money? If you're that organised, now, You'd wing a job like that.

 

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I'm in the notepad club myself. I was in the same boat and didn't keep any track whatsoever of my serials and downloads, so I learned this lesson the hard way a few years ago. It took days to get it all together, but once I did I created a simple notepad file organized by developer, in alphabetical order with the addons in alphabetical order beyond that. After 3 full reinstalls (2 due to system changes), I can say it was the best decision I ever made in this hobby.

 

I simply picked up a 1 TB external HDD, and everytime I purchase an addon, I save the file to my desktop and my HDD, and update the notepad list on both the desktop and the HDD. The files on the HDD are seperated into Aircraft, Scenery, and Other (FSUIPC, AS2012, AccuFeel, etc). Then, inside those folders the addons are seperated by developers. You can even go farther than that in organization, for instance in my Aerosoft scenery folder I have it seperated by regions (Germany, Greece, etc.).

 

Lastly, I keep a second notepad list of what I have installed already to keep track.

 

It does take time to get started, but it is welllllll worth the effort. Made those horrible reinstalls a great deal less of a pain, and lets you pick and choose what to install when.

Yes, I think it takes a cruel lesson like this to make someone like me, think before acting. After all, your's is a very effective system as many are that have been presented in this thread. I will probably end up using something similar once I corral all of it. The one's that are a total bugger are ones like ASE where you get the initial code from a link, don't write it down and the link times out. I've got a few of them.

 

Jon

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