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Carenado TBM-850 - New Pics!

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Its OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B)

 

 

Information from the TBM 850 Product Page:

 

 

Special Features

Flight Plan creation option directly from the MFD

 

That's interesting. Looking forward to downloading when I get home

Chris Magnus

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Air Jamaica Virtual Airlines and Cargo (http://www.airjamaicavirtualairlinesandcargo.org)
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My only concern for the '850 is the past couple of releases from Carenado have hit fps, especially on older and slower systems.  Quite unlike the majority of their releases which were pretty decent in performance.  I suspect the glass cockpits and digital gauges may be the culprits--they seem to take more resources than steam gauges.  So I may sit this one out--although the fast turboprop niche is still well represented for me with other aircraft.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

I agree. They've been doing something differently since the T182T and later releases. I'm definitely waiting until I've upgraded my system before I even think about buying this one.

 

I don't think only the glass/digital gauges are to blame, though. I've got their PA46T JetProp, and it's *very* frame rate friendly even though the cockpit is mostly glass instruments. I'm easily getting 50 - 70% higher frames than with the T182T, which I rarely fly.

It's not perfect, but I think it's a great alternative if you want something similar to the TBM 850 and you're running an older system. Also it's got FDE's by Stolle  B)

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Interested to see what you guys think.

 

 

Yeah, me too. The plane sure looks sweet, but I really don't like the G1000, and to be honest I find 40USD a bit too expensive for a GA addon.

Florian

Interested to see what you guys think.

 

I love the concept of the TBM IRL, and If I was a multi-million dollar lottery winner, it would be very high on the list of must-have toys!   I got this addon more out of curiosity than for how much fun or interesting it might be for extended use in FSX, but they did nail something very important here (they who?) - it is a GREAT hand flyer!!   Great flight controls, responsive and believable input, not the typical 'sterile' FDE that most FS aircraft suffer (IMO).  Very nice low speed handling on takeoff and especially landing; flap effects at different speeds very believably modeled - something often looked over.  Even believable in limited aerobatics.... they didn't miss much in the envelope; it's pretty seemless.   As a real life pilot who's flown a number of different types of aircraft, this is definitely one of those relatively rare sim aircraft that has such high suspension of disbelief, you feel like you're flying a real airplane.   I will definitely fly this for fun!  I would not be surprised if Bernt did this one, with the help from very knowledgeable TBM pilots...

 

My only gripe after a limited session is the apparent traditional use of the FSX yaw damper code... it acts more as a rudder limiter than a yaw damper, so if it's on and you attempt to side slip down final... you get almost no yaw.   Without it on, the aircraft doesn't seem to want to side slip at all anyway, so no real loss there.

 

As far as appearance in sim, looks as fantastic as to be expected from Carenado, it seems fairly well optimised for frame rates, though I didn't directly compare to other aircraft from Carenado, though from memory it's certainly better than the SR22 in my case - that got canned after a brief flight.   Switchery is excellent, with nicely highlighted rotary knobs once you mouse over them, so you know which dial you've selected and which direction it's turning when you roll the mouse wheel.   Nice for those black plastic instruments and back panel, a nice functional addition.  

 

Navigation and autopilot.... only looked at basics, didn't fly any approaches, but at least adequate for basic navigation.   Systems are pretty thorough; make sure you read the manual for systems ops, like pressurization :)

 

That's all I have, from a perspective of what's important to me as a simmer... now back to that amazing freeware Mirage IIIB.

Thanks for the review!

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Maybe Carenado stepped up their game?

 

 

 

 

 

Interested to see what you guys think.

 

 

I love the concept of the TBM IRL, and If I was a multi-million dollar lottery winner, it would be very high on the list of must-have toys! I got this addon more out of curiosity than for how much fun or interesting it might be for extended use in FSX, but they did nail something very important here (they who?) - it is a GREAT hand flyer!! Great flight controls, responsive and believable input, not the typical 'sterile' FDE that most FS aircraft suffer (IMO). Very nice low speed handling on takeoff and especially landing; flap effects at different speeds very believably modeled - something often looked over. Even believable in limited aerobatics.... they didn't miss much in the envelope; it's pretty seemless. As a real life pilot who's flown a number of different types of aircraft, this is definitely one of those relatively rare sim aircraft that has such high suspension of disbelief, you feel like you're flying a real airplane. I will definitely fly this for fun! I would not be surprised if Bernt did this one, with the help from very knowledgeable TBM pilots...

 

My only gripe after a limited session is the apparent traditional use of the FSX yaw damper code... it acts more as a rudder limiter than a yaw damper, so if it's on and you attempt to side slip down final... you get almost no yaw. Without it on, the aircraft doesn't seem to want to side slip at all anyway, so no real loss there.

 

As far as appearance in sim, looks as fantastic as to be expected from Carenado, it seems fairly well optimised for frame rates, though I didn't directly compare to other aircraft from Carenado, though from memory it's certainly better than the SR22 in my case - that got canned after a brief flight. Switchery is excellent, with nicely highlighted rotary knobs once you mouse over them, so you know which dial you've selected and which direction it's turning when you roll the mouse wheel. Nice for those black plastic instruments and back panel, a nice functional addition.

 

Navigation and autopilot.... only looked at basics, didn't fly any approaches, but at least adequate for basic navigation. Systems are pretty thorough; make sure you read the manual for systems ops, like pressurization :)

 

That's all I have, from a perspective of what's important to me as a simmer... now back to that amazing freeware Mirage IIIB.

Good brief review!

I like the handflying characteristics too! The control surfaces are animated very nicely and the whole feel of this bird is amazing. The reaction to changing power settings is quite slow and therefore, handflying approaches is quite demanding and much fun!

The bird looks fantastic, inside and out it is a pure pleasure to look at these beautiful textures!

The G1000 has some nice features and the checklists seem to work good, although I haven't tested in depth. The entry of a flightplan can only be done through the FSX flight planner, at least I wasn't able to enter waypoints. It is possible, to delete single waypoints and add procedures, quite comparable to the SR22's G1000. So, not a big improvement over their last release. The performance is noticeably better, even though this beauty has two PFD's. That was a pleasant surprise, if one looks closer, it is obvious that the resolution of the displays got a little worse. But it is still good enough!

I am looking forward to spending more time in this enjoyable and beautifully made addon.

The basic flight planning capabilities and the FSX data base are still two things I hoped for an improvement...

Disappointed about the G1000 ill pass

 

Thanks for the reviews guys

 

 

 The entry of a flightplan can only be done through the FSX flight planner, at least I wasn't able to enter waypoints. It is possible, to delete single waypoints and add procedures, quite comparable to the SR22's G1000. So, not a big improvement over their last release.

I'd suggest reading the G1000 documentation that came with the airplane.

 

You can build a flightplan right on the G1000 as well as adding and deleting waypoints.

 

Not everything works quite right IMHO, but the basics are there.

Bert

...added the rxp gns530 as a popup but I cant seem to get the flight director (a/p off, flying manually) to follow the green g/s diamond after I intercept the glidepath during a waas approach (cdi switched to localizer mode). On the PFD both the LOC and GS text indicators stay white, even though the f/d wing does intercept the localizer, but it never seems to intercept the g/s.

Is the linkgps=on in the RXP.ini?

 

The waas portion may not work with the tbm's systems even with linkgps.

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Is the linkgps=on in the RXP.ini?

 

The waas portion may not work with the tbm's systems even with linkgps.

yeppers...it is.You dont get any g/s if the pfd cdi is in the gps mode...but you will get the g/s if you switch it to loc/ils mode on a a waas. But, the f/d only seems to follow the loc but no g/s.

 

also...the gns plan and approach does show up on the mfd.

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