The answer to the orginal question is that there are several 'good' DC3s out there, including the MAAM versions for FS9 and FSX, and the X-plane version, not to mention the FSX DC2. 

 

'Good' being a subjective word doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The OP perhaps meant something more than merely 'good', something special along the lines of a PMDG or A2A product. PMDG are already working on the DC6. A2A have other priorities.  Both companies must have calculated in their different ways that they can generate higher profits from those projects than from a DC3.  

 

I have a lot of sympathy for the view of at least one poster, that those of us who would like a really top-notch DC3 should do something about it.  The MAAM FS9 DC3 was superb and, although the port-over to FSX leaves a lot to be desired, that plane is the closest we now have to a 'special' DC3 (apart from the X-Plane).  MAAM has stated that it's not going to develop a purebreed FSX DC3, presumably because of the cost involved and the likely return on investment. On the other hand, they might be open to suggestions.

 

Given the amount of support there seems to be for the DC3 on these boards, why not set up a trust to receive donations with the aim of commissioning a new FSX/P3D DC3 built to A2A levels of fidelity?  AVSIM might even lend a management hand. If MAAM doesn't bite, maybe MILVIZ or someone else will.  One way or the other, if we want that kind of DC3 we'll have to pay for it. This way we pay up front. Risky? Maybe but with good project management that risk should be small.

 

I guess this idea is a long shot. But if we want a new DC3 there's no use just grumbling that we don't have one - we need to make it happen. Otherwise, nothing will happen. Will we settle for that? 

 

John

 

 

This way we pay up front.

There's a whole lot of forum postings on this issue...paying a developer for something that is not complete. Although I agree with you that there are sim users who would probably quite gladly throw funds towards something like this. But can you imagine what would happen if the final product was not "good" (and I quantify good, since it has different meanings to different users)? Or worse yet, the money is raised and nothing ever happens? Or the new status quo becomes fsx users starting trust funds to demand production of a certain plane...and ending up in the exact same position of wanting but not getting, because of too many other things going on for the developers?

 

The users are obviously making suggestions for preferred future aircraft, and A2A was kind enough to justify the reason they choose to not embark on it. As noted by another post above, the developers must consider their prime markets and revenue generation.

 

It was mentioned previously, and I could not possibly agree more with the statement, sim users now are becoming VERY discriminating with the quality offerings coming from the top developers. So maybe the good DC3's out there are not good enough for the new age sim user, who now demands the highest fidelity graphics, performance, and systems simulations from every addon. "Good enough" seems to be a thing of the past with many FSX users. Unfortunately FSX will never be more than good enough itself, but that's a different topic on it's own.

 

I would suggest that if there really was a market for a top notch bells and wistles DC3, then there would probably be one in development or already in existence for FSX. Problem of course is the proposed users are demanding the quality that perhaps makes it less feasible to initiate such a development. Maybe the demand is there, but maybe it's not quite enough demand. I would like to have one, but can accept that it might not happen, and the DC3 that I use that is good enough, remains forever "good enough" for me to use.

The only way to get noticed is to keep this thread going.

 

I for one, would pay whatever it cost's for an A2A/PMDG type version for FSX,

 

Show your hands, if your with me?

 

 

Which brings me back to my original question; why do they (dev's in general, not A2A specific) keep passing up on the DC-3.

 

The A2A response may provide a clue - I'm guessing at this, but it would make sense to me to find out that the biggest opportunity for developers is in professional training.  Think of the economics - you have the prospect of selling a large number of licenses via a single sales effort (to a training center or a training systems provider like Redbird), as opposed to one-by-one sales to the relatively small hobbyist community.  Via a development agreement, you'd have some amount of guaranteed revenue to offset the risk of your development effort.  With retail sales, there's no such guarantee.  

 

We can see this trend with several developers.  A2A certainly finds it attractive to provide 172's and Cherokees for the primary training market.  Majestic is working on a professional version of the Q400.  Dodosim has essentially set their FSX Huey aside in favor of professional projects.  I don't know a lot about PMDG's or FS Labs' businesses, but given the sophistication of their products, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that professional products figure in their plans.  Orbx has suggested at times that they see a future in development for the professional market.

 

If the world was dotted with DC-3 training centers, that would do more than anything else to move an FSX DC-3 to the front burner.

There's a whole lot of forum postings on this issue...paying a developer for something that is not complete. Although I agree with you that there are sim users who would probably quite gladly throw funds towards something like this. But can you imagine what would happen if the final product was not "good" .... Or worse yet, the money is raised and nothing ever happens?

 

That's a risk, of course, but it happens all the time in business. That's where good project management comes in. The project would be managed by someone appointed by a 'DC3 Development Trust Board'. It would be phased and funds would be released only to achieve agreed milestones. Bonuses could be awarded  for any betterments. This approach would minimise the risk to donors and would encourage project completion.

 

In the case of complete project failure, contributors might agree in advance that unused funds be donated to the International Red Cross, or American Red Cross, or similar.  At least we would have tried and some good would have come out of it. 

 

John

 

 

I for one, would pay whatever it cost's for an A2A/PMDG type version for FSX,

+++1. Now that indeed would be the ultimate Nirvana.

An A2A DC-3? Count me in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Lee

Me too !!

Vertigo Studios were making one, but I havn't seen any updates since 2010ish.

 

These are a few renders I found digging back through google;

 

 

 

Look over the site now however, I can't see any mention of it. Looks like it might have been dropped.

Vertigo Studios were making one, but I havn't seen any updates since 2010ish.

 

These are a few renders I found digging back through google;

 

 

 

 

 

Look over the site now however, I can't see any mention of it. Looks like it might have been dropped.

 

Their productspage shows the DC-3 as "coming soon", but someone else in this thread mentioned it has been "coming soon" for over a year now. And we all now "soon" in FSX world might cover a span of years....

But if Vertigo indeed is (still) working on a quality Dak, I'll patiently wait.

 

 

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