I will happily report back when I get to that point.

Might be a while. Don't have to much time to work on it.

I am going to Follow NickN's guide the letter.

 

I have the system built except for the SILVER-ARROW-SB-E-Extreme

which should arrive on Thurday.

I have the stock cooler installed right now for memtesting

and as soon as that is finished I will start the Windows 7 install.

 

My old system had a custom water loop but I am switching to air.

I still expect to get the same results though because the system will be kept in my garage which is below Zero degrees in the Winter which is flight sim season for me.

I fact it get way below zero most of the winter. So I am relying on ambient temp for my cooling rather than water or air. I don't think the water would add much in a sub-zero environment.

 

I will us the system for other things but it is mainly for FSX and XPX.

The 128gb SSD is for the OS

The 256gb is for FSX

the 2TB Segate is for FSX data addons

the other 256GB SSD is for XPX

And the other 2Tb HDD is for XPX data Addons

if they exist LOL

If not it is for other games

 

The case also has 2 hotswap drives

I will probably use those for gaming and work

 

Sorry I don't want to hi-Jack your thread but if you like I post Photo's etc. here.

"I fact it get way below zero most of the winter. So I am relying on ambient temp for my cooling rather than water or air."

 

Please send a pic of you in Eskimo gear, dont get me wrong Im pretty passionate about simming as well but not insane! lol

I noticed quite a huge performance leap going from Core i7 920 3.2 Ghz with GTX290 to Core i5 4670K 3.4 Ghz with GTX770.

Definately worth the upgrade IMO!

"I fact it get way below zero most of the winter. So I am relying on ambient temp for my cooling rather than water or air."

 

Please send a pic of you in Eskimo gear, dont get me wrong Im pretty passionate about simming as well but not insane! lol

Very Funny. I got my i7 920 to 4.85ghz buy putting the system on the roof of my garage in -18 degrees. A real OC expert could have got it to 5ghz. According to the Future Mark web-site that system got the second highest 3Dmark06 ever for a system with that hardware:-)

 

 

putting the system on the roof of my garage

 

Wow.... that must be some looooooong cables you're using between the PC-case and the rest of your setup 

Wow.... that must be some looooooong cables you're using between the PC-case and the rest of your setup

I do have some long cables alright.

 

That was just an experiment though.

The haswell build will be permanently outside.

Well partially outside anyway. Inside the Garage

Which is un-insulated and very drafty.

Hoping for 5ghz.

 

Flight sim/gaming room is right next to the garage.

Cables will come through conduit in wall.

So customization required but not much.

Can you share your setting and addons used when maintaining those 30fps into the NYC area?

 

Addons: it's pretty much listed in my simulator profile.  No NGX, only GA for me at this time.

 

Settings

Traffic: airlines - 10%,  GA - 20%, Airport Vehicles - Minimum, Road - 0%, Ships 10%, Boats 10%

Scenery:  all 100% except mesh 2m, Water high 2x, Autogen Very Dense, 8.5 lod

Weather: distance 100 mi

 

I just completed a detailed 'sight seeing' flight all around NYC in the RA Legacy starting from La Guardia and ending at JFK Intl.  Using realtime ASE weather, which was quite rich at that time, introduced a decent amount of stutters which were remedied by using the static in game 'fair weather'.  It's not at a perfect 30 fps but I didn't claim that;  probably pegged 30 80% of the time with occasion brief dips to 26-28.  Landing at JFK with the static weather was very smooth, as was the taxi and takeoff  from La Guardia.  Also I run DX10 preview using the upgraded shaders.

I went from a i7 960 @3.6 to the i7 4770K @ 4.8 only about 2 weeks ago and its 50% faster easy. I can run with all sliders at 100% only with the water down. Using Orbx and NGX I sit on 70FPS @33000. On the ground at YMML 30FPS in the NGX. It was well worth the money for the new MB,CPU,RAM to match.

I can run with all sliders at 100% only with the water down.

 

Here's a test I would like to see how your machine does:

 

1.  ALL sliders hard right--that's water, cloud distance, road & water traffic, autogen, ground shadows on, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING as complex as the interface permits!

2.  Run the highest AA settings possible in nV Inspector:  I forget its name but it starts w/ CAVV or something like that towards the end of the long list and it looks fabulous!

3.  LOD 6.5

4.  Heavy Weather out the full 110m!

5.  ORBX PNW scenery

 

Load the NGX onto 34R at dawn at KSEA and tell me what you get ;o)

 

 

and tell me what you get

 

Probably an OOM 

Here's a test I would like to see how your machine does:

 

1.  ALL sliders hard right--that's water, cloud distance, road & water traffic, autogen, ground shadows on, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING as complex as the interface permits!

2.  Run the highest AA settings possible in nV Inspector:  I forget its name but it starts w/ CAVV or something like that towards the end of the long list and it looks fabulous!

3.  LOD 6.5

4.  Heavy Weather out the full 110m!

5.  ORBX PNW scenery

 

Load the NGX onto 34R at dawn at KSEA and tell me what you get ;o)

 

I done that test and it was a heavy hit on FPS in side the VC I was getting about 8 FPS with Track IR 5 running. Also running was 5 Saitek panels, 2 TQ's, Trim wheel, Yoke and pedals. The video card is from my old rig 660ti over 2 24" screens

The AA settings was not changed from what I have set as I know how good it is now and messing with settings to much I may of not got it back to the way it was.

Also my CFG had been run over with venetubo from the time I set this rig up and it gets it humming a long good. I should say I run Win7 64 on SSD and FSX on a SSD Kingston HyperX as well.

 

I don't need to push my system no more as its running better than I ever wanted.

Probably an OOM 

 

LOL

Was about to say the same thing!  :lol:

I'm debating putting a Haswell on my birthday or Christmas list myself.  Currently have an i7-975, not a huge fan of overclocking and don't have any 3rd party coolers, so I run a modest OC on air at 3.5 GHz right now.  Anyone have any insight on whether I should look at the Haswell processor, or a new MB or GPU instead?

 

Thanks

 

• Processor
  i7 975
• Processor Cores
  4
• Processor Speed
  3.33
• RAM
  12.0
• Video Board Manufacturer
  nVidia
• Video Board Model
  GTX 570
• Video Memory
  1280 MB
• Mother Board
  ASUS Rampage II Extreme
• Operating System
  Win7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
• Joystick
  Saitek X52 Pro

Yesterday I was running FSX on my old [email protected] and a conventional hard drive. It was ok but the NGX in a complex payware airport gave me about 10fps.

 

TODAY i finished putting together my new rig and I literally just closed FSX after a quick first run with PMDSG777 reaching easily 40fps under the same conditions. I know it's unfair to compare the higher performance of the newest PMDG with the older NGX, but the increase of 30fps must mean this new processor is worth it if you come from a first generation i7.

 

Current specs:

[email protected] on air (noctua NH-D14)

32Gb of ram@2400Mhz (I work with this computer)

GTX570 (I don't play games)

256Gb Samsung 840Pro

The Intel Haswell CPU's are pretty efficient and so are the new nVIDIA cards such as the 770 and 780.

 

I abandoned FSX a couple of years, when I had an Intel Core i7 940 @4.1GHz, 6GB RAM at 1600 MHz CL7, nVIDIA GTX480. The cause wasn't bad performance or problems with FSX. My work and photography left no time over for my flight simming.

 

I retired from work this summer and of course built my self a new FSX computer (see My PC). The performance with my new system compared to the i7 940 and GTX 480 is huge, very huge. I have setup up my system (BIOS and OC:ing, Win7 and FSX with nVIDIA Inspector) with guidance from Nick Needham. It's very nice to spend no time on trying odd tweaks and just enjoy flying :-)

I went from an i7 920  at 4.4 ghz, A GTX 580 and 8Gb's 4x2 Corsair 1600MHz 9-9-9-27 to an i7 4770k at 3.5 (no overclocking yet), A GTX 780 and 8gb's 2x4 G-Skill 2400mhz 9-11-11-?.

It is night and day so far and no overclocking yet. Its a lot of money and a lot of work but IMO well worth it!

 

I think it is the sum of the parts rather than one specific part. The role the 2400MHz Dram at 9-11-11 plays in smoothness i.e. the elimination of stutters should not be underestimated. Also I have not seen any bluries at all except when I have skipped forward an FS recorder playback a few minuties.

I highly recommend the combination of the above hardware.